Mini Normal 2334: trees (Day 6)

[RationalMadman]

But Townreads are based on people interacting while not being scummy in general. I read for scum and Townreads are ethos consistently not hitting the radar minus sheer lurkers.

Those, not ethos.

[Elements]

Well for instance I re-explained my reasoning behind the NoElim around 5 times on top of the first but each resulted in you pretending I never explained it.

not asking about that

I explained all my reads but you then interrogate the nuances to which I expanded on what they are and you pretend I explained nothing.
So, now that you ask me to explain my scumread on awesoming on the post I explained it, I don't see why to bother.

can you show me the post where you re-explained your scum read on them? I'm asking because I didn't understand the post I quoted

[Elements]

Please explain to me how your reasoning for no lim day 1 cannot be applied to day 2 and beyond if the PRs are gated or do not want to claim for whatever reason they might have.

I never ever said DP2 is a no-lim. Ever.

Answer my quesiton please

At this point unless both a nightkill happened and no living person has a result

What happens iday 2 in this scenario?

Please explain to me how your reasoning for no lim day 1 cannot be applied to day 2 and beyond if the PRs are gated or do not want to claim for whatever reason they might have.

I never ever said DP2 is a no-lim. Ever.

Answer my quesiton please

you haven't answered either of these

[RationalMadman]

Please explain to me how your reasoning for no lim day 1 cannot be applied to day 2 and beyond if the PRs are gated or do not want to claim for whatever reason they might have.

I never ever said DP2 is a no-lim. Ever.

Answer my quesiton please

At this point unless both a nightkill happened and no living person has a result

What happens iday 2 in this scenario?

Please explain to me how your reasoning for no lim day 1 cannot be applied to day 2 and beyond if the PRs are gated or do not want to claim for whatever reason they might have.

I never ever said DP2 is a no-lim. Ever.

Answer my quesiton please

you haven't answered either of these

Yes I have. DP2 is a normal day, normal pressure whatever. Hopefully with a report on another player and claim leading toa crush proper structure of who to revolve the DP around and real situations where reactions actually matter to read rather than this DP1 chaos.

I said this when I said DP2 should be medium pressure and DP3 should be higher pressure in another post I made shortly after you asked that I think. I am not rereading while typing this but going by memory.

Surely they're both the same question asked differently.

[RationalMadman]

You can't make a quote a spoiler??

[RationalMadman]

Let DP2 be medium pressure and DP3 be high pressure. We don't need any nonsense DP1 leaking anything to Mafia. That's my belief. It's antitown pressure whereas revolving it around PRs DP2 and DP3 is where we really crack setups and have useful info of some kind to watch people respond to and bounce reads off of.

@elements

[Elements]

Yes I have. DP2 is a normal day, normal pressure whatever. Hopefully with a report on another player and claim leading toa crush proper structure of who to revolve the DP around and real situations where reactions actually matter to read rather than this DP1 chaos.

But if no one says anything on day 1 and there is not PR claims at the start of day 2, what is actually the difference in game state other than having less town players alive?

Spoiler: spoiler

You have to use the spoiler= tags to spoiler quotes

[RationalMadman]

Yes I have. DP2 is a normal day, normal pressure whatever. Hopefully with a report on another player and claim leading toa crush proper structure of who to revolve the DP around and real situations where reactions actually matter to read rather than this DP1 chaos.

But if no one says anything on day 1 and there is not PR claims at the start of day 2, what is actually the difference in game state other than having less town players alive?

Spoiler: spoiler

You have to use the spoiler= tags to spoiler quotes

Well if Mafia hit jackpot and kill a significant PR before it is useful then nothing but the mafia will claim such a PR anyway when voted DP1 and either force out a CC or end up lucky and unCCd and later end up winning a clash probably.

I admit ironically that the case the mafia is not CCd means they lack information on PRs in terms of who but now out of the simple normal PRs they know one that is not present in the game and as others unvote them due to no CC it means that Town has to hit 1 in 6 chances of the 2 in 12 others and have the Scum probably decide which one ends up going as the temporary clear.

It's just a lot of lose-lose scenarios.

[RationalMadman]

Or win but lose with the win like get rid of mafia but expose PR to them.

[DrNickRiviera]

I think Dann is solidly town here

can you describe this read

Well for one, I can understand the post you made right after this one casing me as scum, or I mean I get where you are coming from.

And also vibes, this doesn't 'feel' like scumDann

I do disagree with you about Hu though, I know she plays somewhat similar as both alignments.....but her non committal stances here don't seem as forced as I have seen from her as scum.

I know that seems like a weird contradiction lol, but hard to really put it into words what I mean.

[Elements]

Yes I have. DP2 is a normal day, normal pressure whatever. Hopefully with a report on another player and claim leading toa crush proper structure of who to revolve the DP around and real situations where reactions actually matter to read rather than this DP1 chaos.

But if no one says anything on day 1 and there is not PR claims at the start of day 2, what is actually the difference in game state other than having less town players alive?

Spoiler: spoiler

You have to use the spoiler= tags to spoiler quotes

Well if Mafia hit jackpot and kill a significant PR before it is useful then nothing but the mafia will claim such a PR anyway when voted DP1 and either force out a CC or end up lucky and unCCd and later end up winning a clash probably.

I admit ironically that the case the mafia is not CCd means they lack information on PRs in terms of who but now out of the simple normal PRs they know one that is not present in the game and as others unvote them due to no CC it means that Town has to hit 1 in 6 chances of the 2 in 12 others and have the Scum probably decide which one ends up going as the temporary clear.

It's just a lot of lose-lose scenarios.

I think you put way too much value in PRs

[Elements]

I wanna vote in Gibdo/Salty/Rational/Hu today
In no particular order

[KayJayQueue]

I wanna vote in Gibdo/Salty/Rational/Hu today
In no particular order

Why Gibdo? I didn’t feel strongly either way about the entrance post.

[Elements]

I wanna vote in Gibdo/Salty/Rational/Hu today
In no particular order

Why Gibdo? I didn’t feel strongly either way about the entrance post.

Exactly

[Elements]

Or win but lose with the win like get rid of mafia but expose PR to them.

Do you play blood on the clocktower?
I think you'd enjoy it

[RationalMadman]

I wanna vote in Gibdo/Salty/Rational/Hu today
In no particular order

Why do you Townread awesomeming

[Elements]

I wanna vote in Gibdo/Salty/Rational/Hu today
In no particular order

Why do you Townread awesomeming

Awesome is one I'm planing or looking at agin tomorrow.
I want to go through your case on him and see I can see what you're seeing because atm I can't.
He's null for me atm

[KayJayQueue]

Or win but lose with the win like get rid of mafia but expose PR to them.

Do you play blood on the clocktower?
I think you'd enjoy it

Do you? I’m obsessed with watching it but have never played. Sorry for getting sidetracked I just love that game so much lol

[Elements]

Or win but lose with the win like get rid of mafia but expose PR to them.

Do you play blood on the clocktower?
I think you'd enjoy it

Do you? I’m obsessed with watching it but have never played. Sorry for getting sidetracked I just love that game so much lol

I've played a fair bit
I prefer mafia

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

Yes I have. DP2 is a normal day, normal pressure whatever. Hopefully with a report on another player and claim leading toa crush proper structure of who to revolve the DP around and real situations where reactions actually matter to read rather than this DP1 chaos.

But if no one says anything on day 1 and there is not PR claims at the start of day 2, what is actually the difference in game state other than having less town players alive?

Spoiler: spoiler

You have to use the spoiler= tags to spoiler quotes

Well if Mafia hit jackpot and kill a significant PR before it is useful then nothing but the mafia will claim such a PR anyway when voted DP1 and either force out a CC or end up lucky and unCCd and later end up winning a clash probably.

I admit ironically that the case the mafia is not CCd means they lack information on PRs in terms of who but now out of the simple normal PRs they know one that is not present in the game and as others unvote them due to no CC it means that Town has to hit 1 in 6 chances of the 2 in 12 others and have the Scum probably decide which one ends up going as the temporary clear.

It's just a lot of lose-lose scenarios.

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

we get it bro ur a fucking pr you lit the goddamn bat signal to mafia you are pr just take ur fucking n1 death and stop trying to impose your shitty mafia theory on the rest of us and distracting everyone from playing it the more optimal way which is actually discussing pushes and such.

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

only people with brainworms from playing on epicmafia too much think that PRs are good because the setups there are built so swingy and PR reliant despite the winrate probably going up if people stop worrying about PRs as much

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

I wanna vote in Gibdo/Salty/Rational/Hu today
In no particular order

Why Gibdo? I didn’t feel strongly either way about the entrance post.

why not gibido

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

also to go back to rationalman, awesome is probably one of the top towniest slots in the game right now and its incredible they are just OMGUSing because the dude just disagreed with them. i would be incredibly shocked to see awesomeming flip red here when they fit to a T how a less experienced townie might react to rationalman's play here which is to rightfully contextualize an experienced player pushing bad strategy as potentially suspicious while understanding it to be more of a towny thing to do from a new account.

[Grovyle in a Fedora]

team is probably something like gibido/cactus/elements atp but knowing myself thats probably only 2/3. i don't think this is a difficult game though even if part of that is wrong tho (unless it is a hard game in which case good luck yall im always dead before limlo)