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Post Post #850 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:10 pm

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In post 848, Hu Tao wrote: Well if you found out I was town, how would that change your reads?
I’d look at people like DrNick who have voiced suspicion of you but are specifically avoiding your wagon

I probably wouldn’t town clear the KJQ slot as hard
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Post Post #851 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:11 pm

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beyond that idk I’ll cross that bridge when my read on you changes or you get flipped
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Post Post #852 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:12 pm

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Anyone else?
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Post Post #853 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:12 pm

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but right now it feels like you’re scum reading me for political reasons rather than actually believing I am scum

maybe I’m being confbiased! hopefully I’ll figure it out if I am
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Post Post #854 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:12 pm

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Well if you're town, you're wrong and you need to lock in. Cause you're on the wrong path here.
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Post Post #855 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:13 pm

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In post 852, Hu Tao wrote: Anyone else?
maybe I’d look closer at grovyle too, idk
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Post Post #856 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:13 pm

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Okay
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Post Post #857 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:13 pm

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In post 855, Dannflor wrote:
In post 852, Hu Tao wrote: Anyone else?
maybe I’d look closer at grovyle too, idk
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Post Post #858 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:14 pm

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What if we just voted Goofball for doing nothing
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Post Post #859 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:15 pm

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In post 843, Dannflor wrote:
In post 841, DrNickRiviera wrote:
In post 840, Dannflor wrote:
In post 824, Hu Tao wrote: I actually don't see Dann pushing me like this as town, so I'm leaning scum on him now. I could understand a push but a tunnel like this is not like him ever.
Your reads are barely skin deep and I haven’t felt this certain about a scum read in a long while

It’s not like I’m really known to tunnel as scum either so I think you’re just grasping at straws
Ehhh

First real chink in the armor for you Dann
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Post Post #860 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:22 pm

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replacing SaltiestCactus23
here's what it says
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Post Post #861 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:34 pm

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Goofball

*poke*
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Post Post #862 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:07 pm

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In post 861, Thomith wrote: UNVOTE:
VOTE: Goofball

*poke*
God Dammit

I like this

VOTE: Goof
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Post Post #863 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:11 pm

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In post 840, Dannflor wrote:
In post 824, Hu Tao wrote: I actually don't see Dann pushing me like this as town, so I'm leaning scum on him now. I could understand a push but a tunnel like this is not like him ever.
Your reads are barely skin deep and I haven’t felt this certain about a scum read in a long while

It’s not like I’m really known to tunnel as scum either so I think you’re just grasping at straws
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Post Post #864 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:12 pm

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It's hard for me to imagine Dannflor jumping straight to counter-attacking a scummy read on him instead of trying to justify his thoughts, even if he does strongly suspect Hu Tao.
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Post Post #865 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:16 pm

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The KJQ slot I was feeling slightly towny about actually. I don't know what to expect of Black yet so I'll need to wait for more reads on her to reinforce my previous read on the slot.
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Post Post #866 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 10:50 pm

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Spoiler: some quotes yo
In post 824, Hu Tao wrote: I actually don't see Dann pushing me like this as town, so I'm leaning scum on him now. I could understand a push but a tunnel like this is not like him ever.
In post 845, Hu Tao wrote:
In post 840, Dannflor wrote:
In post 824, Hu Tao wrote: I actually don't see Dann pushing me like this as town, so I'm leaning scum on him now. I could understand a push but a tunnel like this is not like him ever.
Your reads are barely skin deep and I haven’t felt this certain about a scum read in a long while

It’s not like I’m really known to tunnel as scum either so I think you’re just grasping at straws
No. But I think as town you'd be more reasonable and try to read others and not tunnel. I just don't buy this persona right now. You're way more level headed than this.
In post 846, Hu Tao wrote: While I don't think you're scared of me I do think you're cautious of me and since you know I'm town you want me eliminated before I could potentially catch you or your partners later.
In post 848, Hu Tao wrote: Well if you found out I was town, how would that change your reads?
In post 852, Hu Tao wrote: Anyone else?
In post 854, Hu Tao wrote: Well if you're town, you're wrong and you need to lock in. Cause you're on the wrong path here.
In post 858, Hu Tao wrote: What if we just voted Goofball for doing nothing


This interaction with Dann is scummy

It feels more like scum trying to guilt a townie into changing their read than it does a townie talking to a scumread of theirs. She starts off by dangling a scumread over Dann's head. Then she goes into calling him unreasonable and telling him he's on the wrong path and to lock in. I think it's significant that she's doing this to Dann because I think Dann has a weak spot for wanting to be right and playing the game well. It feels like she's targeting this spot specifically

doesn't feel like something a townie says to someone they scumread. The scumread feels fake and agenda driven, like Hu is using it more as a way to get Dann off of her

The last post in the list feels like another attempt to get Dann off of her by suggesting we vote DG instead

This exchange also reminds me of the way Hu talked to Dragon and to some extent Flavor Leaf in a recent scum game of hers. Gimme a sec I'll quote the game and find some examples
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #867 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:02 pm

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here is the game

I thought there were more examples than this but I didn't go through all 400 of her posts so there could be more

I think one of Hu's strategies as scum is to make you feel dumb or bad for scumreading her
In post 3964, Hu Tao wrote: Flavor, you know this isn't how I play as scum. So I don't know why you're scumreading me here
In post 4064, Hu Tao wrote: Dragon. I'm town. You've seen me as town. You've seen me as scum. This isn't my scum game. Compare the games.
In post 4100, Hu Tao wrote: Dragon stop over thinking it
In post 3915, Hu Tao wrote: I guess that's true. Maybe you're just paranoid as usual.

UNVOTE:
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #868 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:06 pm

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Hu's scumread on KJQ feels as fake as her scumread on Dann. I understand the concept of wanting to give a replacement a chance to salvage the slot but she disregarded her KJQ scumread so easily. It doesn't feel like a natural reaction to me
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #869 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:13 pm

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In post 868, Black wrote: Hu's scumread on KJQ feels as fake as her scumread on Dann. I understand the concept of wanting to give a replacement a chance to salvage the slot but she disregarded her KJQ scumread so easily. It doesn't feel like a natural reaction to me
I was about to dispute this as a harsh read of the situation, as I didn't think Hu Tao strongly scumread Kay and just felt weird about her, and the unvote made sense if she did genuinely think she would feel more confident reading you later.

I reread the Kay vote though, and that didn't seem to be the case, that felt like a "I'm pretty sure you're scum" reason for a vote.
I think I'm inclined to agree with you because of that.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #870 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:14 pm

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In post 813, RationalMadman wrote: I am getting a lot of town vibes from HT
In post 815, RationalMadman wrote: HT is actually a direct Townread by me rn
I think this has partner equity with Hu if she flips scum. Something is bothering me about this correction, like he wanted to make sure everyone knew that it wasn't just town vibes, it's a firm townread, just in case he ever flips scum and people go looking for his partners in his hedgy reads

I also didn't like the way he had a mild heart attack when I joined the Hu wagon
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #871 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:15 pm

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In post 816, Dannflor wrote: Hi black vote hu tao please
Hi dann, way ahead of you
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Post Post #872 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:16 pm

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FWIW as town or scum I think the Rational wagon is such an easy one for scum to jump onto, either for Town credit for bussing, or just an easy wagon without much accountability afterwards. I want to reread that wagon specifically at some point I think.
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Post Post #873 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:18 pm

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In post 872, Thomith wrote: FWIW as town or scum I think the Rational wagon is such an easy one for scum to jump onto, either for Town credit for bussing, or just an easy wagon without much accountability afterwards. I want to reread that wagon specifically at some point I think.
When was there a wagon on Rational?
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Post Post #874 (ISO) » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:20 pm

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In post 506, tris wrote:
VC 1.08
Image

Thomith (4):
DrNickRiviera , camelCasedSnivy , Dannflor , Elements
RationalMadman (3):
Gibdo , awesomeming327 , Grovyle in a Fedora
SaltiestCactus23 (1):
Hu Tao
Grovyle in a Fedora (1):
SaltiestCactus23
awesomeming327 (1):
RationalMadman
KayJayQueue (1):
DrippingGoofball
DrNickRiviera (1):
KayJayQueue

Not Voting:
Thomith

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.


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In post 590, tris wrote:
VC 1.08
Image

RationalMadman (3):
Gibdo , awesomeming327 , Grovyle in a Fedora
camelCasedSnivy (3):
Thomith , Dannflor , Elements
Thomith (2):
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KayJayQueue (1):
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DrNickRiviera (1):
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Not Voting:


With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.


Deadline:
(expired on 2024-04-17 20:15:00)
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