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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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I guess the problem is with my personality in general because I think I’m bad at everything and it dictates how I do pretty much anything, including play mafia. I’m always scared of doing the wrong thing and I’m learning that that makes for a shitty mafia player. It sucks because I really love playing but this seems to be consistently an issue in my games, and that means I’m the constant in the equation. I’m sorry I was taking it out on you, psyche. This is definitely my own issue that I need to work on.-
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I'm in a Dutch restaurant in Canada, where the menu is in English, and this is the only item listed in French.
The server corrected me when I asked for Viennese Coffee, insisting it was Viennois Coffee.
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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wow lycanfire is also like a movie character
what a playerlistYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Lycanfire Mafia Scum
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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as this game's resident french person i can say invisting about viennois is weird and i love viennese coffeeIn post 2027, Lycanfire wrote: I'm in a Dutch restaurant in Canada, where the menu is in English, and this is the only item listed in French.
The server corrected me when I asked for Viennese Coffee, insisting it was Viennois Coffee.
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Gypyx She/HerJack of All TradesShe/Her
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insisting*White Flag : Carebear Edition is ongoing ! (13/13) hit me up if you wanna get on the priority replacement list / spectate
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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updated impressions before another dozen pages:In post 1927, Psyche wrote: Psyche
Thomith
Random Nurse
Gypyx
Oblivion
geraintm
Naerys
Lycanfire
Snow2697
KayJayQueue
Titus
here's my more conservative read list atm
top tier is "id bet game these are town"
mid tier is "i normal townread these"
second-to-bottom tier is "i expect to townread these"
bottom tier is null. just null.
Psyche
Thomith
Random Nurse
Gypyx
KayJayQueue
Snow2697
Titus
Naerys
Lycanfire
Oblivion
geraintm
I'll also aim for a clarified sorting:
top tier: i will bet the game that these are town
mid-tier: i can towncase these slots and the case would probably be accurate
low-tier: i might be able to towncase these slots but the case would maybe be wrong
top and mid tier are sorted, but bottom tier isn't
there's a missing tier -- scum -- that I'll add if/when I find a scumread genuinely unimpeachable.
RN is right that I should have scumreads, but unless I find really obvious lies, in general I prefer a strategy of searching for confident townreads that i can bet the game on, and mainly treat scummy posts as barriers to entry into confident townread territory.
This type of play admits fewer mistakes in my experience, and town-confirming behaviors are more common in mafia games than scum-confirming anyway.
In case people think this is a sign of wishy-washiness, I wanna assure you all that once I have my poe nailed down to a tight enough group, I will probably push it pretty stridently, and commit to it on pain of embarassment.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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This vote brought the counterwagon to davesaz's wagon (which had 4 people) to 5 people after two quick votes on willow by thomith and pp beforehand.
Part of me wants to interpret it as a sign that dave and willow aren't in a team, but it's hard to weight much as an anti-relational tell given that a lim required 8 votes on D1.
So dave's vote is kind of safe, and didn't shift any real momentum on its own.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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uhhhhh
hmmm
uhhh
hmmmm
nahhh let's see if i can form a read apart from all thisYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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same! what kind of play does sort naeyrs then? im having a hard time imagining how i decide i scumread a player with this meta instead of just thinking they make a lot of bad decisionsIn post 383, Random Nurse wrote:In post 382, Snow2697 wrote: Questions from Gypyx and geraintm make sense.
I do not rule out possibility that Wisp is scum who tries to compromise three town players (Kay - Oblivion - Naerys).
But what worries me most of all here is that Naerys is refusing to respond to questions about her thinking and its reasons.
I will say in a recent completed game as Town Naerys refused to answer my questions so we yeeted her. She's done this as Town.
no matter what page i show up in on this thread the question imposes itself on me
does anyone still alive have a theory of what naeyrs scum looks like?You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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still hard to shrug off how weird it is that stuff like this is public information and established in the thread but a basis for a scumread by page 80 or whateverIn post 428, PenguinPower wrote: buddy - i want people to vote becuase it creates objective information to look back on once there are flips. this is a stance that i am well known for taking. there's nothing more to it than that.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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davesaz declinedIn post 446, KayJayQueue wrote:
Oh no is this the peer pressure my mom warned me about…In post 443, Hu Tao wrote:
Wanna vote dave?In post 434, KayJayQueue wrote: Just because a wagon is big(ger) doesn’t make it the right move.
And I say this as someone who is still willing to vote Will’o. I’m just saying I don’t think that’s a great way to look at wagons.
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Finally, I’ve found my people lol I only unvoted him because I didn’t think anyone cared about him (which I believe is his strategy)In post 447, Thomith wrote: I wouldn't be opposed to a NotAScum wagon here either I don't think.NAS accepted...but seems genuine tbh
booooooooIn post 451, PenguinPower wrote: tbf i would be fine with a NAS yeet. worked out very well last time.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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Titus pretty strongly beat the wisptown/davescum drum early D1; can be said to have derailed the wisp wagon herself. But shifted to NAS kinda suddenly and then stuck to that for rest of game. Maybe I'm not respecting deadline pressure enough to understand why. But townlean does seem substantially supported, at least from D1 play.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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god i hate this tropeIn post 537, PenguinPower wrote: The resistance to NAS is telling.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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Think willows VT claim pretty much clinches him as town for me.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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Spoiler: kayjayque trajectory on NAS
When I saw the final post in this sequence, I was really surprised and suspicious because it seemed like kay was the igniting force behind the NAS wagon in 452. But posts in between do seem like a natural progression away from that scumread, which I suppose was pretty ambivalent in the first place. So ultimately this sequence comes off as organic and helps me see how kay could be town.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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find this post mysteriousIn post 644, Naerys wrote:
Virgo clearly is low info killIn post 637, Random Nurse wrote: This Scumteam may be incompetent.
this comment doesnt sit well with me
VOTE: Nurse
why would killing a slot no one clearly scumreads or townreads be low info?
JV would have been a valid vig target
would like if naeyrs could explain her thinking hereYou can't step in the same river twice.-
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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ahah so unfair! you suspected snow for basically noticing that you two shouldn't townread each other so strongly given public informationIn post 767, Gypyx wrote: I agree with thomith that snow's suspicion of me / thomith reads like trying to break a towncore creating itself, especially since his read is not based on anything more than "they townread each other"You can't step in the same river twice.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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In post 2013, Snow2697 wrote:
Don't want to disclose content of the hood talk. But my position in the open thread reflected what was going on there. Trying to figure out the likely set up now with these developments.In post 1869, Random Nurse wrote: Snow what have these Wonder Twins been saying in the Hood?
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Psyche he/theySurvivorhe/they
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This is really bad timing given wagon state, but I'm probably not going to have much further time for this game through Sunday evening.You can't step in the same river twice.-
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I have a channel to exchange views with players there. It will be of little use for me if I disclose its content in the public channel.In post 2045, Random Nurse wrote:
...In post 2013, Snow2697 wrote: Don't want to disclose content of the hood talk. But my position in the open thread reflected what was going on there. Trying to figure out the likely set up now with these developments.
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KayJayQueue She/HerMafia ScumShe/Her
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First rule about hood club, you don’t talk about hood club.-
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It is so lost reading these posts.This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:no one else has ever loved this way before.
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