What were you trying to do?In post 1098, Dannflor wrote: I was not trying to eliminate either snivy or thomith
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sort them / sort others based on reactionsIn post 1100, RationalMadman wrote:
What were you trying to do?In post 1098, Dannflor wrote: I was not trying to eliminate either snivy or thomith-
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I would never intentionally guilt trip someone, I personally think it's a lame tactic. I know no one will believe me but it's true. Even so, I was more so giving you the thoughts going though my mind. Sorry it came off that way if you're actually upsetIn post 1059, Dannflor wrote: like I understand why this is the route you'd take as scum but the performativity when it's very clear you don't care about solving my alignment at all actually makes me sick to my stomach
1029 has two goals
1. give Hu Tao some plausible deniability for if she get's me flipped
2. guilt me into stop pushing her
nowhere in Hu Tao's entire ISO is there any intention of trying to get my thoughts behind my actions and reads and genuinely try to read my fucking alignment, she is stuck in a position where she needs to paint me as scum or she just loses
for all the words Hu Tao has put to how I'm tunneling her, at the very least I am constantly trying to figure out what Hu Tao expects from me as town by articulating the specific reasons *why* I think she'd be acting different and giving her an opportunity to explain
she's responded by jumping on a "contradiction" and campaigning for my elimination because of it
I tried to figure out what she thought my reaction would be as town and she shut me out in 555
I responded to her scummy fucking contradiction case in as good faith as I could and the only response I got was hu tao ignoring me and campaigning for my vote
and then she has the audacity to post 1029 and 1035?-
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This is false. I SAID THIS LAST GAME AS TOWN ABOUT NAERYS BEING CONTRADICTING LMAO. To be fair I was wrong with that one , but to say that's a scum tactic from my is confirmed false based on last game alone that I already linked here.In post 1061, Dannflor wrote: if I try to remove myself from the emotion of the situation and look at things objectively,I think the emphasis on me being "caught lying" and "contradicting" comes from scum a lot of the time
I think Hu Tao's read trajectory on me (going from scummy to idk back to scummy), coincidentally matching up almost exactly to me scum reading, town reading, and then going back to scum reading her again is purely political
I think Hu Tao's blase attitude when people were suspecting her was focused on looking towny and does not match how she behaved around a similar situation in a previous game
I think her only bringing up 981 at the point she did points to her read being manufactured as opposed to a natural reason she thought I was scum-
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hm and yet you didn't learn between that game and this one
caught lying contradiction!!-
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Not true. I just posted a reads list where I said he was scummy, you're lying. Just cause I'm focused on you doesn't mean I don't have other reads.In post 1071, Dannflor wrote: there's also Hu Tao's camel scum read dropping off the face of the earth and CCS seeming to not care about it at all despite calling out hu tao specifically in 693
it just feels like distancing
idk I'm aware I'm loaded with confbias right now and I'd be very pleasantly surprised if I was actually 3/3 right now but it fits together remarkably well and explains why hu tao seems so desperate to get me limmed-
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just because you've done something as town before doesn't mean I don't think it comes from scum more often or that you also wouldn't do the same thing as scum-
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Yes but what makes you scum is that it never crossed your mind or gave you pause about me. Or even tried to imagine a world where I am town and just on the same path as last gameIn post 1107, Dannflor wrote: just because you've done something as town before doesn't mean I don't think it comes from scum more often or that you also wouldn't do the same thing as scum-
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it has crossed my mind lots and I've had pause about you, most of it I didn't put in thread, but it's also not like you ever tried to plumb my thoughts before jumping to "caught lying and calling my scum"In post 581, Dannflor wrote: hu tao is maybe trending upwards but im stubborn and dont want to admit it
but here is a point where I was thinking I could be wrong on you
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If this is forced I will side against Dann, I would prefer to vote Awesomeming.-
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I believe Dann vs HT is TvT right nos-
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The biggest clue that it is Town Vs Town is the absolute absence of a scum partner of either trying to divert things from the rivalry despite being so chaotic beforehand.-
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Well I am diverting it back to awesomeming but I know I am Town.-
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I have to say I dislike the absolute crap out of Thomith changing to quiet bystander during this despite being super active beforehand. It's like he's enjoying the heat off of his back and being town Vs town as scum.
I am unsure who precisely the third is in that though but Black becomes more likely than Elements in that case.-
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Team idea 1: Awesomeming, Black, Thomith
Viable team. Very little interaction between them, hints each has the other in scumpool but not much actual aggression between them at all, with the latter 2 going quieter as others fight and the predecessor KJQ also going more frantic both when Thomith was being voted and when Town wasn't fighting Town based on this team while relaxing as Town fought Town.-
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Team idea 2: Awesomeming, Dannflor and Elements/Black
The concept here is an ultra-active duo, being almost too active in votes and posts to end up suspected.
The more intuitive, less tryhard teams:
Awesomeming, Black and DrNickRiviera
Awesomeming, Elements and Black (feels wrong but is viable)
Awesomeming, either, CCS
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In post 1015, Black wrote:In post 1011, ActionDan wrote: have very much thought KayJay was scum the whole game
I'm curious about these readsIn post 1013, awesomeming327 wrote: I agree with kayjay scumIn post 1020, Grovyle in a Fedora wrote:
can you explain why? I don't really see how you reached this honestly based on your progression?In post 1013, awesomeming327 wrote: I agree with kayjay scum
can you post a full reads list whenever you have a chance so I can see where you are at here?
I do not like 709 from Kay in context of her low motivation. Feels too informed.In post 1054, ActionDan wrote: Awesomeming, you have vacillated on your elements read a few times this game: opportunistic for RM vote, to cooking after a Hu one, to scum again for a CCS vote. Can you expand why you thought Elements was cooking? Can you reconcile your support of Dann's town read on Elements with your current one w.e it is right now?
When did you first think KJQ was scum? Was that when you named 3 people gun to head as scum or did you refer to Dr. Nick?-
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There are some reasons that Awesomeming, Elements and DrNick feels wrong such as that it would mean all 3 remained hostile and mocking to me in obvious ways early on, perhaps agreeing in scum chat I was ridiculous. This feels too blatant, I feel one would have held back.-
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If AwesomeDan (saltiest replacement) is the third partner, it also can be either but then Elements becomes more likely.-
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Lol, actiondan not AwesomeDan.-
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This is not my intention at all. The question was meant to be taken at face value.In post 1021, Hu Tao wrote:
This is actually a good point. It does look like soft pushing for nick to vote me.In post 996, RationalMadman wrote:
Do you not find it strange that while saying this, Awesomeing is trying to campaign for votes on you such as here? :In post 961, Hu Tao wrote:
Good news, I'm not being faded this gameIn post 950, awesomeming327 wrote: I do not want to fade hutao before getting dripping camel and salty to get a little more content inIn post 953, awesomeming327 wrote: Dr nick, what are you thoughts on hu tao? You said before that you scumread her right-
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Thomith...ActionDan...Awesomeming
1 ultractive overcompensater, 2 lurkers barely trying ..
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