Micro Normal 1104 - Postgame

[JacksonVirgo]

Smh

Spoiler: My extremely townie introduction

Guys, this "Not Voting" fella has like NO resistance! What are we even doing?!

Can you elaborate on this?

Is this your read list? If so, why omit Umlaut?

You asked 2 questions and had 3 other unrelated things, I would hardly classify this as effort. Especially when you contrast it with this post:

Avatar gotten. As for Luka's effort, what they're basically doing is interacting in order to create more information and reads, which I appreciate because it makes my job easier. However, I've seen enough of both town and mafia do that to know it's not particularly towny at this point. You should reserve judgement on Luka for now.

When, to my knowledge; you were doing the exact same thing. It creates a incongruity between the two and inconsistency. Nobody pointing this out and people towning you for reasons beyond me is what I don't like, and Hu Tao's reaction to my FoS wasn't very good either. They jump on the bandwagon to say they don't like my slot, but once again they never directly state a read on it and they aren't even voting their.

You raise a good point here actually, @Cat what's the difference?

[JacksonVirgo]

I have a red-check on FancyPants, he is incredibly suspicious but even a red-check isn't strong enough reasoning to vote the INNOCENT CHILD. Silly

Fun fact, I am stupid.

Ahahaha, I love it

[JacksonVirgo]

VOTE: JacksonVirgo

Its a random RVS vote that I disagree w/ based on content so far, I don't know what it achieves on a strong player like you and cjv isn't a cute name.
Once again though, it's mostly gut; it's a low confidence read.

(I don't know if ceejay knows my range, shhh I want an easier game)

[Hu Tao]

I'll wait for Luka to comment on my questions, but for right now I'm liking Cat and I'm liking Eira (based on that last post). I think FancyPants is a wolf

Why do you think FancyPants is a wolf but you're not voting their, and instead voting me whomst you in your post don't dictate a wolf on? Infact, in one of your earlier posts voting me you never called me wolf either, and you provided reasons to town me in the post before that. What's your gameplan here exactly?

Not sure if you noticed by fancy pants name is green......

[Luka]

Okay so you were confused on what I meant. If I say I like someone just means their vibe, not that I have a strong tr on them or whatever. But now after their most recent posts, I do have a town read on cat

I'm assuming you don't have a strong TR on them, I'm translating it to a TL on them.

[Luka]

(I don't know if ceejay knows my range, shhh I want an easier game)

^ This person has a very large scum range! >:3

[Luka]

Not sure if you noticed by fancy pants name is green......

I did, I just forget since I'm uhm. Chronically not very smart!

[Hu Tao]

At the time of the post I was just saying I like them as in terms of their vibe. But now I do actually tr them

Why?

They seemed genuine and not forced to start which a lot of new players can be at the start if they are scum

[Hu Tao]

Okay after seeing Luka talk more I understand why he scumread me originally for thinking it was a pocket attempt on Overcat. I will agree it's possible that scum jumped on Luka quickly after that. Not sure why people didn't wait for Luka to clarify the statements.

[JacksonVirgo]

Gameplan is to pressure and find scum. I think your aggression doesn't likely come from scum but that doesn't mean I don't think other things you're doing isn't scummy.

And what do you think I'm doing that's exactly scummy? "your aggression doesn't likely come from scum" should theoretically outweigh or mitigate other reads to some extent, in addition to that, I notice this still isn't directly stating a read on me.

UNVOTE:

I was voting you to smooth out the TMI shit, which I want to wait for Overcat to respond to my question before I comment much further on that in particular. Maybe this is a philosophical difference but my aggression read on you is a single argument, I don't care how strong an argument is really. If it's singular, there's a chance it could be NAI with me not knowing how to differentiate it so I want to cover many different bases.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm not stating a read because I'm not sure where I stand with you rn

[JacksonVirgo]

(I don't know if ceejay knows my range, shhh I want an easier game)

^ This person has a very large scum range! >:3

nuh uh!

[Umlaut]

Being voted as soon as I join my first game. Anxiety inducing.

Openly admitting to being anxious about being voted strikes me as towny, because my instinct as scum is "be cool, don't overreact" when I get an early vote. Particularly as newb scum I would be trying to put on an "I don't even care that I got voted" front, but Overcat just flat out says they do care which is probably a genuine non-contrived reaction and so a town one.

I like overcat so far. Even though they suspiciously chose a dog for an avatar as a cat

their reads reek of TMI but they're new so w/e

What TMI? And how does being new counterindicate that?

Luka is being quite antagonistic which inherently makes me want to vote them, I don't think they're actually scummy though. This could be overcorrection but I don't think scum!luka would be this aggressive this early. Especially when immediately discounting your words like he had. It's not nice, but I don't think it's scummy

Note to self, skim Luca's scum games to see if there's precedent for them going aggro early on.

Actually no, the TMI comment is wack

VOTE: Luka

JV gets a townpoint for the sudden about-face. I think scum psyching themselves up to vote Luka just doesn't make post #62 first.

Thoughts on Luka saying cat is scummy?

I don't really get it but I'm happy to give them a chance to explain it. I have seen plenty of reads I don't really get come from town.

I don't have a read on Luka but I don't like any of the pushes launched at her so far. My gut did scream scum are in the grouping.

I don't understand what "scum are in the grouping" means here. What grouping?

I like overcat so far. Even though they suspiciously chose a dog for an avatar as a cat

their reads reek of TMI but they're new so w/e

I can't tell if this is a joke or you can't tell that my post was a joke

So the tl on the slot was a joke? I'm aware that the latter sentence was a joke, but the former is as well?

At the time of the post I was just saying I like them as in terms of their vibe. But now I do actually tr them

Townpoint to Hu Tao for trying to make their position and trajectory transparent at the expense of a clean narrative. (Either "I just meant I like them as a player" or "I was/am townreading them because..." would be cleaner narratives that would be easier to pick if you are just making something up)

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• I'm town.
  
• FancyPants is town.
  
• Overcat, JV, Hu Tao get provisional town leans.
  
• This leaves {KayJayQueue, Luka, ceejayvinoya, Eiralox}.

VOTE: ceejayvinoya

I like this for now. No one really has a strong ISO yet but this is the weakest of the lot. The only opinion they've expressed so far is "I like 36" which is... fine, I like 36 too, but that's not even so much as a read if they don't say more than that about it.

Ceejay, if you had to pick a launch right now what would it be and why?

[Eiralox]

VOTE: ceejayvinoya

[Alianna]

1.04

Votecount 1.04

ceejayvinoya (2): Umlaut, Eiralox
Luka (1): Overcat
Overcat (1): KayJayQueue
JacksonVirgo (1): ceejayvinoya
KayJayQueue (1):

FancyPants

Hu Tao (1): Luka

Not Voting (2): Hu Tao, JacksonVirgo

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-23 12:49:04).

[KayJayQueue]

• I'm town.
  
• FancyPants is town.
  
• Overcat, JV, Hu Tao get provisional town leans.
  
• This leaves {KayJayQueue, Luka, ceejayvinoya, Eiralox}.

I can help you narrow down your list!

I’m town (:

[Umlaut]

Super helpful thanks

[ceejayvinoya]

I don't have a read on Luka but I don't like any of the pushes launched at her so far. My gut did scream scum are in the grouping.

can you point us to any push in particular that you didn't like?

what made you uncomfortable about the push on Luka?

am finding it a bit hard to get in to your head on this one considering the pushes are mostly just questions used to get to understand Luka's early reads.

[ceejayvinoya]

Smh

Spoiler: My extremely townie introduction

Guys, this "Not Voting" fella has like NO resistance! What are we even doing?!

Can you elaborate on this?

Is this your read list? If so, why omit Umlaut?

You asked 2 questions and had 3 other unrelated things, I would hardly classify this as effort. Especially when you contrast it with this post:

Avatar gotten. As for Luka's effort, what they're basically doing is interacting in order to create more information and reads, which I appreciate because it makes my job easier. However, I've seen enough of both town and mafia do that to know it's not particularly towny at this point. You should reserve judgement on Luka for now.

When, to my knowledge; you were doing the exact same thing. It creates a incongruity between the two and inconsistency. Nobody pointing this out and people towning you for reasons beyond me is what I don't like, and Hu Tao's reaction to my FoS wasn't very good either. They jump on the bandwagon to say they don't like my slot, but once again they never directly state a read on it and they aren't even voting their.

@Luka from what I've seen so far Overcat seems to value engagement through the use of good questions and would look at those sort of posts with a positive light, kind of like what he said here.

Ceejay- Am curious on the few extra reads you've got

Well, I think one of my reads was on you. I like that you've been asking some good questions, but more importantly that you've been willing to put yourself in the firing line on your opinions:

VOTE: Hu Tao
Them liking the doggy is wolfy /srs

eh?

I must be wolfy too because I like Overcat's 36.

Mind explaining this further?

Thoughts on this?

[Overcat]

Good morning!

ceejay is a pretty strong town read of mine. I think a problem with forum games is that people are a bit too forgiving, and they may tend to go after people who are less charismatic rather than less towny. I'm very unhappy at the idea of votes being taken of Luka my biggest scum read onto ceejay who is a trust of mine at the moment. It's like we have two people that we are suspecting of doing a crime. One has tattoos covering them, blood on their hands, and a constant facial twitch, the other just happened to be found in the area the crime was committed. Leave ceejay alone.

[Umlaut]

You're going to declare someone the top suspect based on their tattoos and motor tics? Yikes.

Also that analogy has no persuasive force. You have to actually say why Luka is more suspect and Ceejay less so, you can't just say what they're "like."

[ceejayvinoya]

(I don't know if ceejay knows my range, shhh I want an easier game)

^ This person has a very large scum range! >:3

I sort of had that idea but thanks for confirming lol will keep it in mind

[Overcat]

Smh

Spoiler: My extremely townie introduction

Guys, this "Not Voting" fella has like NO resistance! What are we even doing?!

Can you elaborate on this?

Is this your read list? If so, why omit Umlaut?

You asked 2 questions and had 3 other unrelated things, I would hardly classify this as effort. Especially when you contrast it with this post:

Avatar gotten. As for Luka's effort, what they're basically doing is interacting in order to create more information and reads, which I appreciate because it makes my job easier. However, I've seen enough of both town and mafia do that to know it's not particularly towny at this point. You should reserve judgement on Luka for now.

When, to my knowledge; you were doing the exact same thing. It creates a incongruity between the two and inconsistency. Nobody pointing this out and people towning you for reasons beyond me is what I don't like, and Hu Tao's reaction to my FoS wasn't very good either. They jump on the bandwagon to say they don't like my slot, but once again they never directly state a read on it and they aren't even voting their.

@Luka from what I've seen so far Overcat seems to value engagement through the use of good questions and would look at those sort of posts with a positive light, kind of like what he said here.

Ceejay- Am curious on the few extra reads you've got

Well, I think one of my reads was on you. I like that you've been asking some good questions, but more importantly that you've been willing to put yourself in the firing line on your opinions:

VOTE: Hu Tao
Them liking the doggy is wolfy /srs

eh?

I must be wolfy too because I like Overcat's 36.

Mind explaining this further?

Thoughts on this?

This about hits the nail on the head btw. A strong difference between Luka and Jackson, is Jackson asked some good questions, whereas Luka voted in order to create reads, and then defended themselves from attack. My philosophy is that people who ask questions and behave like detectives are good, and people who speak like politicians are bad.

[Overcat]

You're going to declare someone the top suspect based on their tattoos and motor tics? Yikes.

Also that analogy has no persuasive force. You have to actually say why Luka is more suspect and Ceejay less so, you can't just say what they're "like."

And the fact they have blood on their hands. Also, do I have to use logic all the time? I made a long logical post that was overly explained that nobody really seems to have found persuasive. If you want my logic look there, it hasn't changed.

[ceejayvinoya]

Good morning!

ceejay is a pretty strong town read of mine. I think a problem with forum games is that people are a bit too forgiving, and they may tend to go after people who are less charismatic rather than less towny. I'm very unhappy at the idea of votes being taken of Luka my biggest scum read onto ceejay who is a trust of mine at the moment. It's like we have two people that we are suspecting of doing a crime. One has tattoos covering them, blood on their hands, and a constant facial twitch, the other just happened to be found in the area the crime was committed. Leave ceejay alone.

I think you have a bit too much faith in me but it helps me so I don't really mind lol

Can you tell me more about your read on Luka? I have them as a town lean and I've been liking the way they've been bullying and pushing the game.