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[Psyche]

yeah. i got humbled in another game though don't you worry

[Lycanfire]

You still kinda are but I thought you progressed past that page 50 or wherever you said you last stopped days ago. If you didn't read from then on a lot of your behavior makes sense.

[Lycanfire]

Getting four hours of sleep

[Psyche]

actually yeah too many posts are townpinging me. i can see posts by gera and kay and snow that i find hard to imagine from scum -- though not necessarily that hard. either way, i'm not going to find a confident solve that excludes naeyrs today. would be silly to attempt counterwagon without such confidence. i'll try again tomorrow if I have to.

I do think gypyx's towncase on naeyrs has a lot to it and it sort of fits with why I'm inclined to think naeyrs is town. But it's not much more of a tonal/meta read -- not really rooted in the strength of her play or assessment of its consistency w/ town (or scum) win condition. So I can't value it enough to call for everyone to flip the board.

By comparison, I think oblivion being scum is super implausible at this point based on its ranger positioning -- it does not look like a bus to me.

some gaps id address if i had infinite time...
- why does thomith currently have a vote on oblivion?
- is the towncase for snow really so strong that i shouldn't take the counterwagon seriously?

eghhhh. i think part of me is interested in the idea of snow over naeyrs so i guess i can't ditch the thread yet

I can't shake off a snow townread either. It feels a bit stronger based on the position-based reasoning about dave that me/thomith discussed. I'm drowning in townreads. There's something in this thread townpinging me that shouldn't and I don't know what it is.

I give up for today.

VOTE: naeyrs

[Psyche]

in retrospect i can totally see why people wanted to dip their tones in a psyche wagon when i replaced in
what is going on. what a mysterious game. you know until a few days ago i thought it was scummy to make posts like this one. and now here i am.

[Random Nurse]

I'd be down for a Psyche launch, too.

[Thomith]

I'm around to consolidate.
I do think Naerys is wrong though.
Oblivion won't happen so may as well UNVOTE:

[Psyche]

id resist but id understand
probably not actually willing to self-vote to avoid no lim though
i don't care about ev math. i'm worth the sacrifice

[Psyche]

ok thomith why oblivion? even gypyx seems wishy washy about it. do you think i'm mistaken to say that oblivion is a major reason ranger flipped in the first place?

[Random Nurse]

I think Titus launch would hurt Town the least if they're Town, and be far better than a no-lim.

[Random Nurse]

I think for now I'll lock my vote on Titus—there's just no effort there, which could be indicative of crestfallen Scum.

[Thomith]

ok thomith why oblivion? even gypyx seems wishy washy about it. do you think i'm mistaken to say that oblivion is a major reason ranger flipped in the first place?

Oblivion won't happen today because I need time, which we don't have today to reread and come to a decision there.
I'll post something in the hood PT overnight in case I do die tonight, so thay can be relayed.

Someone give me the tl;dr of the Titus read?

[Thomith]

If Titus flips scum I probably end up trusting Snow completely.

[Psyche]

ok final readslist for the day probably. i think snow and gera reads are reasonably shaky. should not overweight a single interaction with dave in the earlygame i think, nor fact that gera is active this game. titus remains obscure. i really like my case on kay but i think her reaction to the push was town.

Random Nurse
Gypyx
Oblivion
Psyche
Thomith
Lycanfire

KayJayQueue

Naerys

Snow2697
geraintm
Titus

I am unwilling to vote anyone in the top group over accepting no lim. Mid groups are preferred over no lim. Bottom group would be a bittersweet pleasure. Sorry for not landing on more confident scumreads today. I will keep this thread open but am very busy and need to focus on other tasks that happen to also be on my computer.

[Psyche]

will add that we'd get very little info from a titus townflip and need to weigh that. if naeyrs and titus reads are both around the same strength for you, you should prefer a naeyrs hammer.

[Random Nurse]

I don't think I can get a Gypyx/Thomith launch today, but if Town is smart they should start putting the pieces together late-game.

Not sure about Lycan or Oblivion.

Naerys is tough to read, and her doing the Turtle-Turtle doesn't help.

Snow I feel could maybe be Scum. Presence is rarely here. Same with Geraintm although he did show up and actually play recently.

Psyche I'm having a time trying to get a lock on.

And I keep forgetting Kay is in this game.

The ones with lack of presence make me nervous: Snow, geraintm, Titus, Kay.

Maybe Lycan and Psyche are Town. They're active like Town but then again, Scum can be active too.

[Random Nurse]

ok final readslist for the day probably. i think snow and gera reads are reasonably shaky. should not overweight a single interaction with dave in the earlygame i think, nor fact that gera is active this game. titus remains obscure. i really like my case on kay but i think her reaction to the push was town.

Random Nurse
Gypyx
Oblivion
Psyche
Thomith
Lycanfire

KayJayQueue

Naerys

Snow2697
geraintm
Titus

I am unwilling to vote anyone in the top group over accepting no lim. Mid groups are preferred over no lim. Bottom group would be a bittersweet pleasure. Sorry for not landing on more confident scumreads today. I will keep this thread open but am very busy and need to focus on other tasks that happen to also be on my computer.

Why am I on the top?

[Psyche]

you are at the top of the playerlist mod maintains in post 0

only the groupings were thought out, not within group ranking

[Psyche]

if lycanfire is scum then i am useless and will drag town down for the rest of the game that i am alive. a quaint thought to recall in the postgame

[Psyche]

same for RN i guess. these are my most treasured reads

[Psyche]

actually there's more in titus's iso to sort her than i gave credit for. she's arguably also more vigorous this game than in our previous game (where she was town). i have to confess it leans town for me too! ugh

i have got to stop looking at this thread

[Psyche]

VOTE: Ranger

We can do Ranger now. Ranger's response to me voting Snow was horrible. Ranger sees Gypyx and Thomlith won't be divided so she's moving them up her reads list.

Ranger, the difference between you and Willow is my townreads are active and people are posting now. If you think my theory on Wisp also applies to you, who are the scum that don't give a damn.

Frankly, it's easy to post a series of names gradually moving people where you want them to be over time with no reasoning.

When you do post reasons, they are clearly bad.

Ranger Snow +1 inactive calling it

2.12

Votecount 2.12

Ranger (E-2): Hu Tao, Random Nurse, Gypyx, Titus, Oblivion
Naerys (2): PenguinPower, Naerys
Hu Tao (2): Lycanfire, Ranger
Thomith (1): Snow2697
Snow2697 (1): Thomith

Not Voting (2): geraintm, KayJayQueue

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-04-06 10:29:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

bussing? i guess we can't say it's totally out of the question

[Naerys]

VOTE: naerys
Bye

[Naerys]

Gl town

[Random Nurse]

Dood.