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[geraintm]

psyche

so, i did go over them yesterday, and i did make a mistake about their not answering a post i made at them.

their last 20 posts or so....i get nothing from it. it is all snippy little fights with mutliple people, and then glad there is at least a competing wagon against them. like, they just tried to get something going with anyone to maybe not get themselves pushed through today. it just doesn't look very towny at all.

that was what i wrote then, and after that we had some more back and forth. i expanded on my thoughts in 2228 and i think they kinda left me alone. i think we became a bit more in sync with our views on the game as the day went on.

i think Oblivion and Lycan look worse, Random Nurse looks fine, Psyche not as bad. But i think the odds of hitting scum among those 2 (+1) are pretty good and i'll write more on Oblivion and Lycan tomorrow and see what has occured in case either of them has done stuff that i should have remembered that was especially townie.

[Psyche]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

This take is awful?

what am i missing?
how is it so awful?

[Random Nurse]

Enchant, are you actually a Traitor?

If Enchant flips Traitor then the other two must be flipped.

[Psyche]

this is what i am talking about

[Psyche]

rn why did you push for the massclaim if you weren’t going to use the info to calibrate your reads at all

[Psyche]

there's one or two clear lims of least resistance today but i'm concerned that they aren't on the mark

if there were scum among the slots that are more productive this game, how would we find them? how would we avoid the bait?

this type of q is sort of essential to my ability to enjoy mafia but for now im at a loss for a reliable answer

i guess responsible thing to do first is the legwork to confirm that we really are in such an ambiguous scenario. caffeine is kicking in. might as well spend the boost on a game instead of the job i took it for...

[Lycanfire]

Odds of Enchant lolcatting because the scum PT is filled with posts such as "we need a mislim on gypyx or thomith OR we always take them to melo"? I can see this reveal or at least bothering the two of you in private to be an avenue to build suspicion.

Which would be a terrible use of the slot. Reeks of desperation and someone that would have only read the scum PT but not the game thread.

Very relevant

This looks like a hail mary play

[Lycanfire]

it's actually really useful for weighing possibilities like gypyx/thomith being in a team with ranger

This take is awful?

what am i missing?
how is it so awful?

Our game is 10 vt, vengeful, ~~~neighbour~~~, triple scum neighbour?

This has an overly optimistic view of neighbours being protown and in this setup there's a great chance of pocketing the vengeful neighbour and using it against town. Even with that optimism the setup seems busted to me. It relies on fog of war to stop scum from freely killing whoever they heck they want.

[Lycanfire]

Why is random nurse fine

[Psyche]

it looks like you misread my 2656 as conveying a belief that gypyx/thomith have a chance of being scum

[Random Nurse]

rn why did you push for the massclaim if you weren’t going to use the info to calibrate your reads at all

For one the way you asked this just strikes me as manipulative. If you're Town watch how you phrase your questions.

For two I don't *DO* readslists. I just wanted to know who claimed what. I don't have to be bent on using the info to update a readslist I don't do in order to want a massclaim.

[Psyche]

rn the biggest lesson of this massclaim should be that there's little to no chance of gypyx/thomith being scum
is that what were you seeking with this massclaim? to test your pet theory that they are lying about being pseudo-masons?

[Lycanfire]

Is this svs

[Psyche]

am about as scum as naeyrs was

[Lycanfire]

The hair trigger kneejerk from random nurse is interesting

[Psyche]

i struggle to see how. it's typical from him even in this game

[Lycanfire]

VOTE: Unvote

Thonk

[Lycanfire]

Bye guys cant wait to see the same shit on a different page

[Psyche]

could you elaborate on why 2689 was interesting if it lends to prediction of "same shit on a different page"

[Lycanfire]

I expect more random paranoia about the homies. Already called Enchant being an angle.

[Psyche]

Odds of Enchant lolcatting because the scum PT is filled with posts such as "we need a mislim on gypyx or thomith OR we always take them to melo"? I can see this reveal or at least bothering the two of you in private to be an avenue to build suspicion.

Which would be a terrible use of the slot. Reeks of desperation and someone that would have only read the scum PT but not the game thread.

this doesn't seem to make much sense..? why don't scum just kill gypyx/thomith ahead of melo if they are such a threat?

[Psyche]

still feel reasonably convinced that the solve is best narrowed to

geraintm
KayJayQueue
Enchant

am convinced by the towncase for all the others, maybe most controversially lycanfire and oblivion

and i'm probably still inclined to take kayjayqueue out of this pool, but i can't say i have strong reasons for it
what i want to look for atm are any details that could convince me that this poe is wrong
if not, i'll focus on presenting why it's probably right

[KayJayQueue]

Why don’t you tell us why it’s right and we can just poke holes if/when necessary?

[Psyche]

well, i'm time/effort-constrained.

[KayJayQueue]

well, i'm time/effort-constrained.

Relatable