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[Lycanfire]

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5.01

Votecount 5.01

Random Nurse (1): Lycanfire
Lycanfire (1): Random Nurse

Not Voting (5): Gypyx, Oblivion, KayJayQueue, Enchant, Psyche

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-05-11 13:49:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Random Nurse]

I can tell you right now trying to Scum-paint me for being wrong on an important facet of the game will not end well for you.

[Random Nurse]

sure:

being SO wrong on thomith and gypyx when ranger is busy hanging herself is scummy

coincidentally selling the same narrative as ranger and geraintm is scummy

continuing to be SO wrong on thomith and gypyx because they're rewarding you with townreads for it is scummy

being so wrong up until they're killed at this point is a self-parody at best

let's not pretend this is all that is scummy about you: pushing the same not-eliminating-in-hood narrative as geraintm, forgetting your SR on geraintm between d3-d4, accusing me when i suggested you should have called geraintm's statement as being false when he said you had a good push on ranger, blank voting me because why not, wagoning gypyx with geraintm, wagoning me with geraintm, fake anger tellx2. fake anger 1: "convenient scapegoat if ranger flips town" comment d2 when you didn't do shit to push ranger. fake anger tell 2: echoing kay's feelings d4 by saying the game is "pissing you off" because there's no scum signals.... what about geraintm or myself, or whatever your "paranoia" has.

If I were Scum wouldn't it just make more sense to just blend in and agree that they're both Town and just go along with it while killing them at night?

[Random Nurse]

If I were Scum why even bother going on a rumble against those two for such a long time?

If I'm Scum I'm not looking to shake things up and fight with people.

[Lycanfire]

I don't like this opportunistic shift by Lycanfire.

this is so unexpected and scandalous

He's either Town going down the wrong path or Scum trying to get a mislim.

this or that comment. you read this and you agree with one of the scenarios.

I am a bit amused by all the little things he's trying to present as being dubious/suspicious. It doesn't sound like he knows my meta one bit, and anyone who's played with me as Town (and knows my persistent irksomeness as Town) knows this isn't my Scum meta.

everything i do that is scummy is small and insignificant. any reason i give to be town is overwhelming.

Yeah I was wrong about Thomith and Gypyx but I'm allowed to be, and as Town you'd be stupid to be like "oh yeah, I'll take your word for it." Of COURSE the game is set uo that way to make your paranoid about those two roles in the game.

minimizing the case to right about thomith/gypyx | wrong about thomith/gypyx. when aspects such as timing, collusion, wilful ignorance of more pressing tells took place

you're just sitting here making manipulating statement after manipulating statement

Triangulating Ranger and Geraintm should help narrow down the (hopefully) last Scum.

can't wait to see what the ranger and geraint triangulation say about *checks watch* random nurse's meta

Hey, quick question—what do you know about my meta?

any opportunity to do so works for you. so slimy.

[Random Nurse]

I don't like this opportunistic shift by Lycanfire.

this is so unexpected and scandalous

He's either Town going down the wrong path or Scum trying to get a mislim.

this or that comment. you read this and you agree with one of the scenarios.

I am a bit amused by all the little things he's trying to present as being dubious/suspicious. It doesn't sound like he knows my meta one bit, and anyone who's played with me as Town (and knows my persistent irksomeness as Town) knows this isn't my Scum meta.

everything i do that is scummy is small and insignificant. any reason i give to be town is overwhelming.

Yeah I was wrong about Thomith and Gypyx but I'm allowed to be, and as Town you'd be stupid to be like "oh yeah, I'll take your word for it." Of COURSE the game is set uo that way to make your paranoid about those two roles in the game.

minimizing the case to right about thomith/gypyx | wrong about thomith/gypyx. when aspects such as timing, collusion, wilful ignorance of more pressing tells took place

you're just sitting here making manipulating statement after manipulating statement

Triangulating Ranger and Geraintm should help narrow down the (hopefully) last Scum.

can't wait to see what the ranger and geraint triangulation say about *checks watch* random nurse's meta

Hey, quick question—what do you know about my meta?

any opportunity to do so works for you. so slimy.

If anyone's being manipulative it's you reaching at various cherries trying to turn them into cases where nothing is there.

You don't know my meta, and you don't know whose tail you're pulling on. This is Town Wake. I will eat your face off in battle.

[Lycanfire]

Meh, we've played. Probably just on my alt. Don't see how you can't be scum.

[Enchant]

I am not really interested in this.


From my pov i need to find 2 townies. Then assuming i am not executed, we win.
From your pov statistic is same. If you assume me as town then you really only need to know 1 townie to win while executing everyone else.


So let's just today agree on two players who are "totally town" and execute everyone BUT them, eh.

[Random Nurse]

Meh, we've played. Probably just on my alt. Don't see how you can't be scum.

Are you joking?

Of course there's always the possibility but no, if you actually read my meta hx, I am not Scum.

[Lycanfire]

I am not really interested in this.


From my pov i need to find 2 townies. Then assuming i am not executed, we win.
From your pov statistic is same. If you assume me as town then you really only need to know 1 townie to win while executing everyone else.


So let's just today agree on two players who are "totally town" and execute everyone BUT them, eh.

We have more than enough info to end this. You should be able to find all the townies/scum from the flips.

[Psyche]

is easier and potentially more fun to just try to win today

[Psyche]

otoh maybe we just let LF have this lim. as a treat. a bit too early in the day for me to talk that way though

[Enchant]

is easier and potentially more fun to just try to win today

So finding 1 scum among 5 players is easier for you than finding 1 townie among 5 players?

Real shit?

[Psyche]

yeah! lets us finish the game today

[Psyche]

town:
Psyche
Lycanfire
Gypyx

maybe not town:
Random Nurse
Oblivion
KayJayQueue
Enchant

done!
i think at this point the only one on this list who might ever scumread me is RN. maybe enchant? i think i got kay totally pocketed if she's town. whatever the town-equivalent of pocketed is, anyway!

[Psyche]

anyway i read through LF's posts again and still think RN is town.
LF's case is somewhat close to a gish gallop though -- quite long and i'm a bit too lazy to try to contradict every part of it
think his approach for using vca and relational tells to sort slots like RN and potentially also kay is a bit limited when applied to players who might not reliably come to reasonable post-to-post conclusions about the status of their strategic interests
maybe the right compromise that includes enchant's preference is just to lim RN and my preference to avoid tedious debate and return to the topic tomorrow -- supposing he really is town

[Psyche]

ah a typo in that last line

[Psyche]

nahhh im being impatient let's see what happens when the caffeine kicks in maybe i'll actually find a scumread

[Enchant]

I am sorry but i had two townies as You+RM so i don't know what preference you talking about.

[Psyche]

your preference is to pick a townread and then hurry and lim the rest, i think!

[Psyche]

Oh, I think you're implying we actually need a lim pool of size 3, not 4.
And that would be correct.
I don't know if an additional townread is doable at this time.
I'd be willing to add RN or Oblivion, but I don't think there's enough of a consensus about either.
And I would be very concerned if everyone acted like kay or you should be townlocked.

[Enchant]

And I would be very concerned if everyone acted like kay or you should be townlocked.

So you think i am mafia

[Psyche]

i'm not sure enough to say that! but i still think there's a reasonable chance

[Oblivion]

I am not really interested in this.


From my pov i need to find 2 townies. Then assuming i am not executed, we win.
From your pov statistic is same. If you assume me as town then you really only need to know 1 townie to win while executing everyone else.


So let's just today agree on two players who are "totally town" and execute everyone BUT them, eh.

It thinks you need to find 3 townies because you aren't someone it feels comfortable living to endgame.