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[Lycanfire]

Val, we were near deadline end of day 4. He did it for cred, and I think hammering after your slots fake hammer SUCKED! he didn't so much as question the shitty frustration vote of your pred. There was no hard bus d4. He hopped on before someone else did (Enchant was previously on the wagon for instance). Even if we didn't eliminate geraintm d4, we would have today.

[Lycanfire]

My heart sank when I saw oblivion's hammer followed by the real one. random nurse didn't bat an eye and went for it. either he couldn't question how bad oblivion's hammer was because he knew it was town, or maybe he knew exactly how bad it looked and wanted to set it up today.

[Lycanfire]

I think we are stuck.

do you think this is indicative of scum already voting?

[Enchant]

Fun fact: In that previous game i accidently hammered my teammate because i forgot who my teammates are.

[Lycanfire]

I think you uniquely have a devil may care attitude

[Lycanfire]

"if there was a clear trend".

The "clear trend" was the clear trend of being so scummy, so often that it can't be good.

Random Nurse, Geraintm and Ranger pushed the same rhetoric d2.

"Dislike of townblocks/questioning of Thomith/Gypyx, why won't Thomith/gypyx vote each other"
"Not wanting to eliminate in the hood"


See my posts 3305 and 3311 where I score the focus of both Random Nurse and Geraintm, describe what they did (and didn't!) do and some key posts along the way.

[Enchant]

I think we are stuck.

do you think this is indicative of scum already voting?

Nah. I don't think mafia for real have influence, it's more town dedication to sabotage self.


But i am still confused that we have Complex setup for that boringness.

[Val89]

There was no hard bus d4.

Yeah, you quoting 3088 made me double check how the Gera wagon, and I was just starting to think I might have assigned more cred to RN for that in my head than was deserving.

[Lycanfire]

It was ~~possible~~ the wagon could have fallen apart and your slot could have met the axe instead, maybe, who knows. There was some time left - but I want to say the hours were in the teens or less. As I said today, a town elimination yesterday doesn't change the math with a geraintm lim today. Same number of townies need to be limmed for a scum win. It's WIFOM.

[Lycanfire]

Interested in peoples takes on random nurse's day 1.

[Val89]

Random Nurse, Geraintm and Ranger pushed the same rhetoric d2.

"Dislike of townblocks/questioning of Thomith/Gypyx, why won't Thomith/gypyx vote each other"
"Not wanting to eliminate in the hood"

I'll look at those others posts, but I do want to quickly point out that, while she accepted the townblock once they said they were informed, when it was just the hood that was revealed, Kay took both these lines pretty strongly as well and were a major theme of her early D2 - that's one of my notes.

[Lycanfire]

I'll look into Kay's responses tomorrow. Nearly midnight. Work at 6:45.

[Enchant]

I can yell at Gypix in hood until Gypix votes someone else


I forgot about this ability.

[Lycanfire]

Some clue as to what I am looking for might be helpful at this point though, since I didn't see anything particularly AI on the first go around.

I'm wondering if this is lurksack scum random nurse that the players townreading him believe isn't in the game.

What could be different - I don't know, just thinking he can pull one on us. By how the group acted d2 I'm sure they believed they found masons.

I did the same thing when I found masons before killing masons in 218. I tried to eliminate them in day phase simply because I thought I could.

[Lycanfire]

Pretty easy to post when you get dumped townreads for a crackpot agenda

[Lycanfire]

I shouted out, who killed the Kennedy's
when after all
It was you and me

[Lycanfire]

We made him my dudes

[Random Nurse]

Yeah, so Lycan is either Scum or tunneled Town.

I can't actively engage when I'm at work.

[Lycanfire]

I don't like this opportunistic shift by Lycanfire.

this is so unexpected and scandalous

He's either Town going down the wrong path or Scum trying to get a mislim.

this or that comment. you read this and you agree with one of the scenarios.

I am a bit amused by all the little things he's trying to present as being dubious/suspicious. It doesn't sound like he knows my meta one bit, and anyone who's played with me as Town (and knows my persistent irksomeness as Town) knows this isn't my Scum meta.

everything i do that is scummy is small and insignificant. any reason i give to be town is overwhelming.

Yeah I was wrong about Thomith and Gypyx but I'm allowed to be, and as Town you'd be stupid to be like "oh yeah, I'll take your word for it." Of COURSE the game is set uo that way to make your paranoid about those two roles in the game.

minimizing the case to right about thomith/gypyx | wrong about thomith/gypyx. when aspects such as timing, collusion, wilful ignorance of more pressing tells took place

Italics mine. Same comment as 6 days ago.

[Lycanfire]

Hey Random Nurse, who's scum?

[Random Nurse]

Hey Random Nurse, who's scum?

That's not a fair question, but I guess I can't expect that from you.

If I knew who Scum were I would be focused in on those 1-2 players.

[Lycanfire]

You've had a week since your post suggesting we look at Ranger and Geraintm's content

It's a fair question

[Random Nurse]

You've had a week since your post suggesting we look at Ranger and Geraintm's content

It's a fair question

Don't change the context. You asked me who's Scum—I answered.

And for the record I play as I want to play, and if I can, not how YOU want me to. I'm not on YOUR fucking clock. I worked 8 12-hour shifts in a row, had one day off to get my lawn chores done, and am working again for a stretch. I DON'T HAVE TIME to rip open this game and comb through flipped Scum's posts. That doesn't make me SCUM. It only PISSES ME OFF when you try to push me to put more time into this game when I can't. I play as I can, and as I want.

[Lycanfire]

Tough, enjoy the vote scummy boy

[Lycanfire]

Anyways on the off chance I'm wrong sorry for the rude as fuck comment but I think it's similarly rude as fuck to say my question isn't fair and double down with your job as if if makes my question any less fair.