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[Psyche]

you don't have to convince me rnny. im totally pocketed. but can you place a better vote than lf? he's difficult but he's family

[Enchant]

you don't have to convince me rnny. im totally pocketed. but can you place a better vote than lf? he's difficult but he's family

what

[Psyche]

i can understand feeling confused by that post. but while im still transitioning from uncaffeinated to caffeinated you're just gonna have to practice a little negative capability

[Enchant]

what

[Enchant]

Why i feel stupid

[Psyche]

ughhh i get an email every time someone posts here ok im turning that off

[Enchant]

lol lmao

[Enchant]

I taking break

[Random Nurse]

you don't have to convince me rnny. im totally pocketed. but can you place a better vote than lf? he's difficult but he's family

From my position he's either tunneled wrong-Town or Scum trying and trying to get me mis-limmed. If he's successful you'll understand why I'm annoyed currently—I'm clearly Town and he keeps trying to find any angle he can to paint me as Scum, and I wish people had keeper senses to see through this bullshit.

If you're Town you don't keep twisting what people say or do. In fact you don't do that at all if you're Town.

[Val89]

If you have the least confidence in Enchant wouldn't your vote reflect that?

Inconsistency reads to me as Scummy.

Counterpoint: I think it was pretty obvious in context that "least confidence in Enchant" meant least confidence of the rest of the players he had put in the "town rear view mirror", ie: the rest of us, and thus second, behind you. I see no inconsistency there, and if someone were feeling less than charitable, they might decide that was you "twisting his words".

I can point to things likewise the other way. Please at least consider you are wrong there. I think I could see myself settling on a 3 person PoE, but you both would be in it. I strongly prefer Kay because I think the game just ends, but I am confident enough in my read on Titus/Enchant, and they seem to be confident enough in Psyche to justify the faith I am placing in my predecessors evaluation.

[Alianna]

5.07

Votecount 5.07

KayJayQueue (E-1): Val89, Enchant, Gypyx
Lycanfire (1): Random Nurse
Random Nurse (1): Lycanfire

Not Voting (2): Psyche, KayJayQueue

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to secure an execution.

The day deadline is in (expired on 2024-05-11 13:49:00).

Mod Notes: The combined mod ISO is here.

[Lycanfire]

you don't have to convince me rnny. im totally pocketed. but can you place a better vote than lf? he's difficult but he's family

From my position he's either tunneled wrong-Town or Scum trying and trying to get me mis-limmed. If he's successful you'll understand why I'm annoyed currently—I'm clearly Town and he keeps trying to find any angle he can to paint me as Scum, and I wish people had keeper senses to see through this bullshit.

If you're Town you don't keep twisting what people say or do. In fact you don't do that at all if you're Town.

Don't see how I'm twisting your words. That's an easy statement to make to excuse my criticisms.

You aren't able to recognize my criticisms and rather than argue its all a terrible coincidence and try to find scum you've hunkered down and posted about self meta ever since. Scummy.

[KayJayQueue]

I’m definitely in the wrong timezone for this game. I’m never awake for the 5-page real time posting.

[Lycanfire]

The problem is that I don't think I'm wrong.

I have the least confidence in you Enchant, but I have good reasons for all my townreads and my scumread.

Winning today matters to me. Going to another day invites dysfunction.

If you have the least confidence in Enchant wouldn't your vote reflect that?

Inconsistency reads to me as Scummy.

This was closely answered by val but the more correct answer is that the quoted post is replying to enchant's just before this one asking me "if random m*rse flipped town right now who is scum?" Where my vote is placed now has no bearing on my answer in a hypothetical.

I'll give you points for trying, though
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[Lycanfire]

Will effort more later, few hours until my weekend.

[Lycanfire]

Need a real answer from enchant wrt kay. Can't just say poe. If your read is weak as fuck own it.

This is going back to scenario 2 of yesterday. If you find all the towns you know who the scum is. Give me anything, but don't sit there and say poe.

[Lycanfire]

I reviewed Kay's day 1. I don't think the flip comment is an inconsistency, because she initially answers Willow and is told by Oblivion to give a different answer.

I don't find the proceeding posts that Val pointed out to be especially bad. Townies can be wrong. Especially early. My reads when I came into the game stunk.

608 is bad though

I feel like her d2 absolves her, though. I think my towncase on her is solid. She's a non-Ranger voter, but she gave sizable morale behind pushing Ranger. Kay is indecisive, but I wouldn't say she is without charisma. She has presence, and could have leveraged it, but did not. There was great appetite in the thread to go for Naerys, and she went out of way to squash it. She wouldn't fit the bill as a partner that failed to save Ranger or as a bus. The only options left with the players remaining is on wagon.

[Lycanfire]

Random Nurse, Geraintm and Ranger pushed the same rhetoric d2.

"Dislike of townblocks/questioning of Thomith/Gypyx, why won't Thomith/gypyx vote each other"
"Not wanting to eliminate in the hood"

I'll look at those others posts, but I do want to quickly point out that, while she accepted the townblock once they said they were informed, when it was just the hood that was revealed, Kay took both these lines pretty strongly as well and were a major theme of her early D2 - that's one of my notes.

Show your receipts. I just read through d1-d2 again and this is NOT a major of theme of Kay's d2.

Kay's focus d2

dave/ranger - 23
implied ranger post - 2
penguin/psyche - 4
thomith - 6
titus/enchant - 3
gypyx - 11
geraintm - 2
hu tao - 5
naerys - 7
snow - 1
willow/lycan - 3
random nurse - 4
oblivion/val - 5
implied post not liking titus/ranger attitude - 1

disagreed with geriaintm's not wanting to eliminate in hood - 750
is willing to eliminate in the hood/admits to sheeping gypyx/thomith/snow/hu tao - 957
kay is not uncharismatic, defending naerys - 929, 1291, 1400
intent to hammer (homies quickhammered together) - 1120

I'm voting anyone that mentions voting Kay after this post. This is no longer productive.

[Gypyx]

What part of this makes kay so obvtown? i'm not following

[Enchant]

Thankfully it's day until deadline.

[Random Nurse]

Kay's wagon feels too easy.

Not sold on them being Scum.

[KayJayQueue]

I don’t really know how to show those voting for me that I’m town. Is there anything I can do?

[Random Nurse]

Or maybe it's a red flag that she seems squeaky clean to me.

[Random Nurse]

Do I or don't I?

[Random Nurse]

Fuck.