In post 4285, Spiffeh wrote:
A couple things:
1. Who do you think is the scum in your hood? From what I can tell, your PoE is currently sitting at STD and Experience. Alternatively, you can explain why you are townreading marci and wolfbae. Or you can do both if you want extra credit!
2. Is there a reason you're defaulting to assuming I'm Town here if you think my arguments are just that bad? You saw my Town game in Kemusan too and I don't really recall getting as much criticism from you there. Please elaborate on how you got to your town read of me here.
as for the meat of your post, the main thing i'll say is that my response wasn't self-meta. it's not super relevant how i personally play scum, the point was how scum would play in general. your points didn't feel like they actually took into consideration how a scum player would go about accomplishing scum goals and playing to scum wincon. i think this is just a fundamental disagreement on how we view the game probably so it's maybe not worth arguing about
1. currently thinking wolfbae is right and it probably is just experience. im not suuper confident on std since i think he can be hard for me to read, and it's hard to feel sure on experience when ive seen him be pretty frozen as town. but i lean that way
marci i still struggle to understand her mindset in some places but i think the volume of posting and consistently wanting to keep trying and sharing her thoughts and being unafraid to do so (and being as she says a leaky faucet) are all pretty strongly towny things
wolfbae the way he approached the hood last night was extremely towny. i think the goals that he would have as scum replacing into that slot are very specific and fairly easy to accomplish and most of his posts are not really targeted towards accomplishing them. it feels like he's trying to solve the game, and i agree with most of the takes that he's had
i think that he easily could have either tried to bury me and i said as much when he joined, expecting that if he was scum he would react to that by pivoting towards pocketing me instead and taking the morph reads and running with them, if they're town. which he kinda did at first, but then re-evaled and backed off a bit. i considered how he would play if he was scum with morph and it's possible, that's probably the one world in which case we're gonna lose lol
setting aside that paranoia i still think he has just approached things way more with a town solving mindset
2. i did scumread you for having bad process in kemusan as well. i mentioned that it was probably a playstyle thing when i first started losing my scumread on you here. i got to strongly town when reading overnight after the brian flip and seeing the way that you started the push there. at the time i was also strongly reading things as feeling like morph was reacting to your push there by refusing to link up with you and push you away and deny you thread control, which made me read you stronger as town and morph as scum. i kinda wavered again in the morph half of that but i still feel like your approach to brian is very unlikely to come from scum. i also don't really think bad arguments are scum-indicative
