Mini Normal 2335: Rainbows (Game Over)

[Gypyx]

otherwise - got the town feelings on black, this is pretty major and i've correctly nailed scum!black based on feelings that one time so i think it has more value than the average Gypyx read (the average Gypyx read sucks hard)

this whole debate around whether or not to claim is irrelevant, the claim happened, we just play it out now, there's a cool place called mafia discussion for that

town vibes from Roden also

[Hu Tao]

Robb suddenly wanting to vote me is not at all Towny btw, robb basically goes back and forth on his reads relentlessly, yet he can't justify why he himself didn't vote HA.

Robb/Black/HA can literally be the team.

I'm leaning town on black right now. Think she's just on the wrong track so far

[Hu Tao]

oooo someone at e-1, exciting

Hiii

[Robbnva]

Half wagon.

Blackstar - no reason. Never mentioned them prior.

Random - no reason but you were suspicious of half because he was suspicious of you.

Not mafia - no reason


Awesome - hadn’t voted them until now despite scum reading them. Seemed to genuinely not like their play so not voting until a wagon forms just seems off to me.


Note for later black votes somebody else and doesn’t join half wagon.

Hu votes half and hu only scum read half because half scum read them first.


Black puts half at e- 1 for agreeing with Hu. That’s a weird 180 that I hadn’t noticed earlier.

Need to revalue some things.

[Hu Tao]

That's not the reason I voted. Her gut reads were terrible. And didn't make sense

[Charles510]

In post 464, RationalMadman wrote:
And what are your thoughts on Charles, HA and yourself?
I don't have a strong read on Charles. He's vibing similarly to the only other game I've played with him. HA isn't locktown but I'm not really interested in fading there today. Me? I'm town

Me, I'm town too.

[awesomeming327]

I completely disagree with the idea that one needs to vote their scumreads. I recognize that some people might think so, but I think it's very silly that anyone would think that anyone who disagrees is scum.

Mixture of me thinking he hasn't done anything particularly townie, wanting a wagon, and having a lack of better scumreads

Also very very silly

[RationalMadman]

That's not the reason I voted. Her gut reads were terrible. And didn't make sense

He also lied about why I did it and called me 'random' as some kind of freudian slip of assuming I randomvoted. Maybe it's a towntell that he called me Random.

[Robbnva]

That's not the reason I voted. Her gut reads were terrible. And didn't make sense

You were one of their scum reads though so on the surface it looks omgusy

[Gypyx]

oooo someone at e-1, exciting

Hiii

I know I know you love me

[Hu Tao]

That's not the reason I voted. Her gut reads were terrible. And didn't make sense

You were one of their scum reads though so on the surface it looks omgusy

That's surface level analysis when I explained the reason why after

[Robbnva]

That's not the reason I voted. Her gut reads were terrible. And didn't make sense

He also lied about why I did it and called me 'random' as some kind of freudian slip of assuming I randomvoted. Maybe it's a towntell that he called me Random.

Honestly my mind went blank on your name. Random = Rational. My apologies.

[Robbnva]

And I didn’t lie. On the surface that’s what it looks like. Half was pushing you before you scum read them. If you’re town, y’all rattle too easily.

[Robbnva]

Just cause somebody scum reads you, doesn’t mean you need to scum read them back.

[Gypyx]

I completely disagree with the idea that one needs to vote their scumreads. I recognize that some people might think so, but I think it's very silly that anyone would think that anyone who disagrees is scum.

Mixture of me thinking he hasn't done anything particularly townie, wanting a wagon, and having a lack of better scumreads

Also very very silly

where is this all coming from exactly

[Robbnva]

The top part he’s defending his actions from my accusations.

I thought he had 2 scum reads (me/half) but they didn’t vote either of us. I thought it was weird they aren’t voting any of their scum reads. Turns out his scum read was a joke.

They finally vote half after others do and that was suspicious to me.

I don’t understand why someone would have a scum read but not want to vote them.

[Robbnva]

Scum read on me was a joke*

[Gypyx]

The top part he’s defending his actions from my accusations.

I thought he had 2 scum reads (me/half) but they didn’t vote either of us. I thought it was weird they aren’t voting any of their scum reads. Turns out his scum read was a joke.

They finally vote half after others do and that was suspicious to me.

I don’t understand why someone would have a scum read but not want to vote them.

Let's say i'm scumreading someone who's widely TR'd

what good is that gonna do for anyone to push it?

[Robbnva]

My apologies to half and anyone else I forget their gender or name. I need to slow down and review my messages before posting if they are longer. I type as soon as the words come to me and I can’t remember everything. It’s something I need to work on.

[Robbnva]

The top part he’s defending his actions from my accusations.

I thought he had 2 scum reads (me/half) but they didn’t vote either of us. I thought it was weird they aren’t voting any of their scum reads. Turns out his scum read was a joke.

They finally vote half after others do and that was suspicious to me.

I don’t understand why someone would have a scum read but not want to vote them.

Let's say i'm scumreading someone who's widely TR'd

what good is that gonna do for anyone to push it?

That’s not what happened here but hypothetically, I’d still say you should post them if you think they are scum. People could have bad reads. I trust myself over anyone. I know there were people who would form town blocks and all that stuff but I never could do it. I’m skeptical of everyone

[Hu Tao]

Just cause somebody scum reads you, doesn’t mean you need to scum read them back.

You scum read me right away and when did I scum read you?

[LoveKilling]

VOTE: RationalMadman

Behaviorally I think Rational reads town but I'm starting to think that may just be a personality thing. The reads on me/ming/and LK feel manufactured

I think town!Rational would have an issue with LK going from 0 to 100 on halfasleep. If the thought process of "Black = scum due to halfasleep vote" is real then Rational would have found an issue with LK's progression too. Him completely ignoring it makes it possible that LK is his buddy and 357/362 was a coordinated push to get HA to claim

I also feel like Rational may be spewing ming as town here because the townread makes so little sense that it feels like it has to be informed, though there's a chance he's just coming up with awful reasons to defend his buddy. Regardless I think Rational is probably more likely to flip scum

LK didn't vote HA, being willing to hammer is different to going 0 to 100

Your original issue with me was that my vote seemed unnatural. I find it extremely hard to believe you found LK's intent to hammer natural after her previous posts. She wouldn't vote for T3 or NM despite thinking them being wagoned would be a good thing (258), she said she thought HA's vibe reads were better than what T3/NM were producing and even said she wanted to hear more about HA's vibe reads before voting for someone (274), she said she hates voting early (318), and then she declares intent by threatening to hammer HA (357)

Can you explain to me how this feels natural to you?

Black the reason I showed intent to hammer is due to the fact in many posts I wanted to hear some reason for the vibe reads HA had. I wanted to get a little more concrete reasons for these not having her out. That is my bad, but this is better than someone hammering without stating intent. I don't want that to happen to anyone for any reason. It sounds so shitty to have happen while your away or doing other things.

[LoveKilling]

Half wagon.

Blackstar - no reason. Never mentioned them prior.

Random - no reason but you were suspicious of half because he was suspicious of you.

Not mafia - no reason


Awesome - hadn’t voted them until now despite scum reading them. Seemed to genuinely not like their play so not voting until a wagon forms just seems off to me.


Note for later black votes somebody else and doesn’t join half wagon.

Hu votes half and hu only scum read half because half scum read them first.


Black puts half at e- 1 for agreeing with Hu. That’s a weird 180 that I hadn’t noticed earlier.

Need to revalue some things.

I like this from Rob, this is just basic observations but why bring this forth, he is town in my book.

[Robbnva]

Just cause somebody scum reads you, doesn’t mean you need to scum read them back.

You scum read me right away and when did I scum read you?

I didn’t scum read you right away. And idk when you scum read me. I didn’t know you did.

When I voted you, you had just made another useless post. I found it suspicious because you weren’t trying to play. The way you defended yourself , by trying to know why I voted you and not any of the others doing the same. I asked who they were and you refused to answer. I don’t see any of your posts as a player trying to find scum. So I felt you were probably scum.

[Gypyx]

VOTE: Lovekilling

going to sleep but that's probably my one scumread~