Shell Game (Day 8)

[Dannflor]

you, sir cakez, and experience all inexplicably hard sussing each other but also not voting each other

This is straight up false, I'm not even scumreading experience

ok yes sorry as of an hour ago this is true

[SirCakez]

did you read up before making those posts?

[wolfbae]

i don't necessarily think that's the scum team but usually when there are 3 people towards the bottom of the PoE in a game this large they don't all scum read each other this hard, it's weird

do you think everyone else in the hood outside sunflower/experience is majorly town?

Not really

in fact if i had to choose i'd probably do wolfbae, but i recognize i can get tunneled in coinflip reads, and it's not like i'll get the thread to agree with me here

VOTE: Experience

i'm down for some bloodshed

VOTE: Sunflower

think i like the people pushing for sunflower more than the people pushing for experience

[wolfbae]

ask yourself if this person actually believes in their scumread on me

[Dannflor]

in fact if i had to choose i'd probably do wolfbae, but i recognize i can get tunneled in coinflip reads, and it's not like i'll get the thread to agree with me here

if you think this i don't know why you aren't trying to figure out which one of or even if both sunflower/experience are town

[Gypyx]

Is this supposed to be an inconsistency on my part? I don't really care about who dies of expe / sunflower, but it's not like i wanna sit here twiddling my thumbs

[Dannflor]

why don't you care who dies between the two

[Gypyx]

in fact if i had to choose i'd probably do wolfbae, but i recognize i can get tunneled in coinflip reads, and it's not like i'll get the thread to agree with me here

if you think this i don't know why you aren't trying to figure out which one of or even if both sunflower/experience are town

I trust my own reads less than the thread's collective intelligence

this is kinda due to me not caring about these slots, whether they're both LHF or silent scum

[Gypyx]

ask yourself if this person actually believes in their scumread on me

I mean, if you want i can put on my tinfoil hat and start rambling about how you're scum but i don't think anyone wants that

[wolfbae]

ask yourself if this person actually believes in their scumread on me

I mean, if you want i can put on my tinfoil hat and start rambling about how you're scum but i don't think anyone wants that

It would be wrong but I would prefer it if you actually showed some sign you have internal thoughts you place value in rather than solely manuevering with the momentum of the thread

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Gypyx, it does seem like you came in while getting wagoned, decided someone wagoning you had to be scum, and did some half-baked analysis and are now tunneling wolfbae for ? reasons even though you're also not confident in your reads

[morph the cat]

It feels like there's a cycle of "Pick somebody not saying much"--->"a few votes on them"-->"They show up"--->"They make bare minimum reisen 1.0 posts to get out of the doghouse"--->"Pick somebody else not saying much" going on this game phase.

[Hermit Crab]

Are they all scum?

[morph the cat]

Well, Experience and sunflower can't both be scum unless ceph is a big troll, and I very much subscribe to the "deAAthy ivnentors are a signifier in 1-in-5 logic" theory.

So by that definition, not ALL of them are, but I'm not exactly sitting here thinking all three are town, either.

Elim within the hood is preferable, and if as I suspect, skitdra get unlocked by town winning the "shell game" within the hood, then they can rid us of the troublesome priest on the way out.

[Save The Dragons]

there's no indication that something good comes from clearing the scum out of the hood

just that something bad happens if we don't

[morph the cat]

I'm aware hence me stating it is a SUSPECTED reward.

[Save The Dragons]

i don't think you are aware or you would have a different impression of what's going happen

[Save The Dragons]

i'm not trying to dog on you

but reward for town is not involved in the wording of the message so if you think they get unlocked you'd have to be thinking that independently of the punishment and i see no reason to suspect that besides pure conjecture

[Sunflower]

i think it would be a lot more plausible that scum shello trueclaimed an unlock condition

there's not anything that would indicate that clearing the hood would reward town mechanically. that's a pretty big reward already

that or ceph believes that vigs are negative utility for town

[morph the cat]

Yep, pure conjecture.

I am outright stating this is pure conjecture. And possibly wishful thinking.

[Shello and Goodbye]

I'm kinda just assuming there's a vig dis-enabler out there

[Shello and Goodbye]

i think it would be a lot more plausible that scum shello trueclaimed an unlock condition

there's not anything that would indicate that clearing the hood would reward town mechanically. that's a pretty big reward already

that or ceph believes that vigs are negative utility for town

I mean do u think that's we're scum doing that?

[Lukewarm]

I have seen everyone else's theories on the when the shello vig turns on, and I still like my personal theory the most

A vig shot is hiding inside one of these cups (elims). If the bookie guesses the right cup, they get the vig shot! (unless shello does a slight of hand and palms it first!)

Of the other theories, I think that maybe hermits is the most plausible. I don't think it turns on with the dethy, and a de-enabler feels random within the setup.

[Gypyx]

Gypyx, it does seem like you came in while getting wagoned, decided someone wagoning you had to be scum, and did some half-baked analysis and are now tunneling wolfbae for ? reasons even though you're also not confident in your reads

Yeah uh i don't like doing analysis sorry not sorry

Coming out of Touhou upick and large normal 237 (or whatever the number was) i don't hold much stock in my reads, especially these against the grain gutreads, although i've been right before, i'm probably at more of a 50/50 rate

Like, there are 2 Gypyxes you're speaking to, there's the social me trying to keep the game organized, enjoyable and productive, and there's the little feral critter that wants to kill people off of stuff that's hard to describe

[Shello and Goodbye]

Oooooh i like that