Shell Game (Day 8)

[Shello and Goodbye]

@std/wolf/marci/sunflower
Do you think there's scum in your hood, and if so, who?

[Shello and Goodbye]

We oddskept sunflower
Fine with ending on them but I don't want to rush the day

[Shello and Goodbye]

I do not want to lim dann

After resolving the hood I want to lim firebringer

Also anyone with a cop result should share it, but apparently there's just one unaccounted for i think

To be clear: fire claimed a pr in the hood overnight n1, and also got a cop shot n1, and got blocked from using the cop shot n2?

@fire/people in second hood is that what happened?

[Hermit Crab]

I don’t think he got a cop shot n1 but I might have missed it.

He claims to have not submitted an action n1

He claimed d2 and asked Dunn to leash him.

He claims today to be blocked.

[SirCakez]

I don't think it's sunflower

I'm uncomfy with how easily people are willing to dunk on then

Bro it has been like pulling teeth trying to get them TF out of here, this is not a good reason. And if it's not them who in the dethy

[Shello and Goodbye]

honestly don't get why scum would bother blocking me.

Pet theory that scum's cop inventor doesn't have a sanity and instead always returns no result

why are you choosing to disbelive the masons now?

How did you know that Firebringer received a cop?

?

[Shello and Goodbye]

Ok is there any reason for fire to not just fullclaim here? Does it make sense that he'd be roleblocked based on the claim

[Save The Dragons]

@std/wolf/marci/sunflower
Do you think there's scum in your hood, and if so, who?

Not sure if there is scum in there at this time

[Hermit Crab]

Oh he did, I see it now

[SirCakez]

@std/wolf/marci/sunflower
Do you think there's scum in your hood, and if so, who?

Not sure if there is scum in there at this time

you know this is a bad take StD

[Hermit Crab]

Does it bother anyone else that half of the dethy seems to think there’s no scum in the dethy? Like this isn’t the first time one of them has posited that there isn’t scum in there

[Save The Dragons]

i said i wasn't sure calm down

[Shello and Goodbye]

Yeah i'm a little weirded out

I want some clarity abt fire's role/claim

[Save The Dragons]

i feel like the argument against sunflower is "oh they have no WIM :<"

but like that's not really the case in the hood so i can't really jump on that bandwagon

[Save The Dragons]

and if it's not that i need a refresher

[Hermit Crab]

Yeah i'm a little weirded out

I want some clarity abt fire's role/claim

Let me discuss with herr and I’ll get back to you.

[Hermit Crab]

i feel like the argument against sunflower is "oh they have no WIM :<"

but like that's not really the case in the hood so i can't really jump on that bandwagon

I don’t like their positioning on Brian’s wagon and I also think Brian’s read on them is weird

[Shello and Goodbye]

They have wim in the hood?

Ig i think other people in the hood are townier and the setup points to a scum in the hood ...

[wolfbae]

@Wolf

Also dear people who are scumreading morph.

You are all silly.

kthx

- HM

I know I did nothing to really convince people of that (nor I felt the need to because I knew morph was going to die sooner or later after that mech guilty thing) but I do get to get the last laugh.

-HM

This game has 5000 posts. If you think I read and remembered all of yours, you're out of your mind. Sorry but also I probably would ave ignored you anyway.

@std/wolf/marci/sunflower
Do you think there's scum in your hood, and if so, who?

I think there is almost assuredly 1 scum in the group. The design points that way, and for it to be designed otherwise would mean this setup is a troll that were were never going to win (and I doubt that is the case).

I went through last night being 100% sure it was Save The Dragons, but obviously my view of the game was exceptionally flawed. I need to pull back to re-evaluate, but it's very likely this game is one of those games where I'm utterly out of step and can contribute nothing of value.

I still believe the case against Sunflower was pushed using remarkably poor reasoning (this was one of my big issues with morph). That doesn't prevent it from being correct, but I really don't know whether it is or not.

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I don't think it's sunflower

I'm uncomfy with how easily people are willing to dunk on then

So...why do you think it isn't Sunflower, and who do you think it is?

[Gypyx]

dumb theory : Brian was left to die so easily because all of the mafia members are bus drivers

[Shello and Goodbye]

Yeah i'm a little weirded out

I want some clarity abt fire's role/claim

Let me discuss with herr and I’ll get back to you.

My pov is basically if we assume scum in both hoods they know everything already so why not share it

I don't know the nature of fire's claim but his lack of acting two night's in a row is suspicous, and i want to know if he got a copshot n1 or n2

[Save The Dragons]

my working theory currently is in a shell game, some have a ball and some don't

everything points to a scum (a ball) under the shell (dethy hood) but what if it's one of the shells that doesn't have a ball under it

[Shello and Goodbye]

@wolf:
- can you elaborate a bit more why you thought it's std
- did you give us the copshot n1
- why do you think you're so out of step? I'm having a hard time understanding how you got to the pov you had overnight

[Hermit Crab]

IMO people being townier in the hood than out in public are more likely to be scum, hood control was a big part of how scum won tenet.

Essentially, Fires role has 3 components and is called a fortune teller? One component looks to the past and is like a tracker, one is a present day one (the snarglefargle thing) that I don’t think we know what it does, and the future one lets him pick someone in the future to redirect where they go(ie, he targets us n1 and makes us go to you n2)

Dunn and I both were a bit skeptical, particularly of the last part of that claim. Herr’s main holdup is he’s unsure if it makes sense for scum to have two separate redirection abilities.

[Hermit Crab]

Btw which of the dethy targeted fire