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Gamma (5) <-~ ryan2754, Xtoxm, Korts, GIEFF, EsoMonty
ryan2754 (4) <-~ roflcopter, Netlava, Empking, Gamma
RedCoyote (1) <-~ camn
Not Voting (1) <-~ RedCoyote
If I say yes will you put that vote back on me? I don't want you to have to unvote on account of little ol' me.camn wrote:Are you scum?
<3 <3 <3pops wrote:NO! NO! NOT RC! Get OUT of my games!!
BlakAdder 26 wrote:Logical fallicies ftl
I don't think it's a stupid question; I think it's a valid one. Why are you trying to create bad vibes so early?Korts 36 wrote:Stupid question. If the weak doc/hider happens to target mafia and they die, we'll know who they targeted.
Yeah, I'm with you bro. Sounds pretty confusing if you ask me. I'm reading GIEFF, pops, and Korts' posts and just nodding my head in agreement.ryan 44 wrote:I dont have a preference either way right now, as this hypo thing is new to me. Ill go with whatever everyone else thinks is optimal.
Yeah, no joke. This really ain't doing much for me. It's hard to read over all of this debate over hypo-policies.roflcopter 90 wrote: i kind of wish i´d waited a little bit longer to suggest the hypo claim strategy. as much as its going to be awesome for us, the ensuing discussion of the best way to do it makes my eyes glaze over.
I don't know, maybe because it doesn't excite some of us the same way it excites ya'll. I know I'm having trouble paying attention because it all seems so theoretical. Maybe once it actually happens it will make it a little more interesting.GIEFF 103 wrote: I'm a little surprised that nobody else wants to spend the effort to get the best hypo-claiming system possible. I don't know if that's scumminess or just laziness, but because it seems to apply to just about everyone in the game, I'll assume it's the latter.
Best observation of the game thus far IMO.Korts 104 wrote:The ryan-wagon is obviously scum-ridden at this point.
...and? Care to indulge us? People were beating their own mothers off with a stick for a chance to jump on the ryan-wagon because of his vote, and you do... the same thing? I suspect you're voting Ryan for voting without reason? Care to explain how "Ryan is all I got" is such a better one?EsoMonty 132 wrote:Ryan is all I got.
Vote: ryan2574
Does it make a difference so long as they are chronicled? The Hider especially since I think the everyone should have at least one hypo-hider behind them.Korts 139 wrote:I think hypoclaims should be done right before lynching and not at this point, which pops seems to be pushing for.
This spat between GIEFF and Bad Guy seems ridiculous and almost like GIEFF is trying to drive the discussion away from ryan's vote.GIEFF 140 wrote:[BadGuy] "piggybacked" onto ryan in a very similar manner to the way ryan piggybacked onto Gamma; the second vote, with little logic presented. Are you still happy with your vote of ryan?
Is that what you think?Korts 154 wrote:(for simplicity's sake I'm not going to start arguing that OMGUS doesn't even exist in practice)
Right now I'm liking GIEFF, pops, and Korts. I think they've all kept this town chugging along in spite of lurking (i.e. BlakAdder, ryan, Eso) and outright strange behavior (i.e. Gamma).GIEFF 162 wrote:Your behavior doesn't make sense to me, Gamma. First you complain that there is no scumhunting going on, yet contribute almost nothing. When you finally start posting (only after being accused of lurking and accruing some votes), you make one scumhunt post, and then follow it up with inane meaningless posts that only serve to distract and confuse the town.
Can we say, straw that broke the camel's back?Gamma 166 wrote:Am I supposed to be scared?
Again, this shows GIEFF is taking charge and doing well. I was wondering when someone would bring up that Eso is teetering on the line between lurky-town (a bad thing) and fakey-town (a worse thing).GIEFF 167 wrote:I don't think anybody accused [Eso] of fence-sitting. Why do you feel the need to vote if you "don't have a good idea" of where to do so? Why did you feel the need to unvote if you were just going to vote for the same person again later? Worrying more about how your vote is perceived than about actually voting for scum is quite scummy.
It ain't on account of GIEFF.pops 170 wrote: I think maybe GIEFF's posting maybe makes it hard to read, but for some reason this thread is hard, and stuff keeps going in one ear and out the other.
So. Instead of looking for the "real scum".Gamma 176 wrote:So.
6 players want my ass lynched.
Keep in mind we have all agreed to hypoclaim before we lynch.
Huh?Korts 191 wrote:Ugh. Did you just call Gamma a townie?
Isn't there a wiki page for this? The "too-towny" fallacy or something like that?magisterrain 202 wrote:gieff just struck me as being TOO town.
I agree with this, but I've come to the conclusion he was more interested in scoping reactions than actually suspecting Badguy.Magisterrain 202 wrote:also, i didnt like [GIEFF's] nitpicking with badguy.
Just wanted to make note here that Korts seems particularly critical of pops over what I see as nothing while magi just dropped a bomb in the middle of the game (Gamma is town, Netlava/GIEFF might be scum).Korts 208 wrote:Why talk about Gamma in the third person?
*groans*roflcopter 217 wrote:i suddenly remember why ryan was a good lynch
*blows a trumpet*Gamma 219 wrote:Also, it seems to me like popsofctown is chasing around whoever's the sexy pick around here
And, you know, if it's not too much trouble... would you care to show us why? You haven't done that yet.EsoMonty 224 wrote:I feel secure in my voting of Ryan at the moment and will be keeping my vote there.
I see everything said here as townie. There, I said it. At first I was a little leary of ryan, but now I feel as though he's starting to get serious.ryan 228 wrote: An explanation would be nice...Trying to start the wagon again?
EIther way, ROFL's willingness to just throw a lynch around and try to start a bandwagon is interesting, as is Gamma's continued play.
How does being under suspicion warrant an inability to scum hunt? I do understand that there is a high level posting that you will make to defend yourself, but you can still look for the bad guys.
I implore you to point out where you have "posted as such". I've seen you vote him, but I've never seen you point out ryan's "questionable things". I've seen others do it, am I to assume they speak for you entirely?EsoMonty 231 wrote:I think he has done some questionable things and have posted as such.
EsoMonty 231 wrote:And at this point, I don't feel the need to justify myself further on this regard.
Goodness gracious. Now it's like Eso is twisting the knife he stuck in my back. He takes the time to give a detailed explaination of how a vote is being reasoned in some other game, but he still hasn't given us reasons for his vote here.EsoMonty 235 wrote:Let me rephrase, Poster A posted that someone might be Mafia. Poster B posted that Poster A might be mafia for not backing that up with a vote, and then proceeded not to back his up with a vote. I caught him in his mistake but figured that it might actually be a good tell to use.
No. Why is everyone making this so convoluted and complex? Just everyone needs to pick a different hypo-hide, and you basically decide upon two of the most townie players (GIEFF and pops, IMO), for everyone's hypo-doc to go to. It's simple. This is why I have so much trouble reading through the beginning part of this game. People are making something simple into some horribly complicated.pops 243 wrote:Last thing, picking a hypoclaim target. I came up with a good idea for a verifiable random selection. We use the post count of some mafia player at some point in time. Just some prominent person from mafia discussion maybe. Mr. Flay, or Farside22, Adel, Thok, Glork... one of those. Pick a far enough away time, anyone from this game is welcome to check at that moment to see the post count. TotalPostCount%12. Good?
And you can't do two things at once, right?Gamma 256 wrote:was busy defending
I thought Gamma was the lynch target?Netlava 259 wrote:If I'm hider, I hide behind Gamma.
Let me put it to you this way Eso, can you show me the questions you asked of ryan before you voted him? Can you quote for me what ryan is supposed to answer for you specifically?EsoMonty 268 wrote:Ryan has not answered but hasn't been given enough time to do so.
Why are you people hiding behind the person you are voting? Am I the only person who sees this as counter-productive, weak, and asinine?EsoMonty 294 wrote:If I am the Hider: I will hypo hide: Ryan
Everything to me is pointing to the ryan-attackers getting restless and wanting to force this bad lynch through before the replacements get a chance to realize what is going on.roflcopter 303 wrote:everything to me is pointing to ryan being the right lynch here
(completely off-topic but can you link me to this, because I absolutely fell in love with Vi after our newbie 685 game and I want to see this!)roflcopter 305 wrote:and i still think gamma is a vi and not scum
Don't break my heart ryan, this should be your number 1 target.ryan 307 wrote:EsoMonty - No real read on him. Posts don't seem fishy.
Another ryan-attackercamn 308 wrote:MY RUNDOWN
The first townie post of the game from Eso IMO.EsoMonty 318 wrote:People with no one hypo hiding behind them:
popsofctown
GIEFF
Xtoxm
Empking
This is good, but I think ryan is the wrong person to do it to.camn 329 wrote:I don't know why you tagged that on.
And while we are at it, can you (that is, Ryan) explain why we wouldn't want to duplicate Hider claims, but we don't care about Doc claims?
XDpops 339 wrote: hm... i could go and make a correct list.... or bank that gieff is our list and organization superstar and hope he does it...oh look, the bells about to ring!!
Hmmm, I don't know... maybe byroflcopter 342 wrote:gamma --- what? how is ryan redeeming himself?
Dammit Eso! I spent all this time getting ready to roll out big crap against you and you keep saying more townie things to undercut me.EsoMonty 344 wrote:I am changing my vote to Gamma. Not because I think ryan is not still looking scummy, but that Gamma keeps looking worse and worse.
Wam, bam, thank you ma'am!ryan 353 wrote:Nice try because I don't really see the need to play your game that you are trying to play with me. You already know the situation better than I, considering your previous experience, so prodding such information from someone like me doesn't seem to be pointless and a waste of my time, to be honest.
Why do you keep asking me? Read post 44. I really have no desire to go back and reread that portion of the thread to appease you.
Wasn't Gamma the very first hypoclaim?GIEFF 354 wrote:we need to pick up the pace on the hypoclaiming (BSG and Gamma are all that's left, and I think Gamma should go first as BSG appears to be MIA)
*cough*weak*cough*camn 360 wrote:[Ryan] came off like it was everyone ELSE's job to make this game interesting to [RYAN].
What, someone asking rofl for reasons? What kind of heresy is this?! No, no. It's just accepted that rofl is very town and ryan is very scum around this clinic, Emp.Empking 364 wrote:Would you mind giving reasons?
Because why should he when it's so obvious you're gunning for a smear on ryan and no one else?camn 366 wrote:If it is so 'well-documented' then why can't Ryan explain it?
Your thoughts?
Oh. Well, I'd suggest to you that you shake a leg hon. The deadline is approaching and it seems to me more like you're looking for a reason to justify a ryan vote than you are looking for scum in this bunch.camn 366 wrote:PS.. I just haven't gotten to Gamma yet, EsoMonty. Or you. I suspect everyone.
Don't like the insertion of "nice try" here. Usually, a comment like "nice try" is directed at someone you think is scum.ryan wrote:I beleive that's concise enough, considering you have more experience with the hypoclaim situation than me, but nice try.
I must echo the question - how?Gamma wrote:Ryan is redeeming himself slowly, but that may just be in the fear of getting lynched.
The plan is to have one person hide behind every person.RedCoyote wrote:In addition, what the heck is going on with Netlava hiding behind Gamma? FoS anyone who is hiding behind Gamma.