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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2009 1:53 am

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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sat May 16, 2009 1:57 pm

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Clu wrote:@ PhilyEc

I initially voted for AndyTony as a random vote, yeah, but I then kept my vote on him for a couple of reasons.
Looks to me like you liked where your vote was and though you acknowledged it was still just debates over semantics, never unvoted. You must've been pretty sure he was scum to not take off a random vote...
Clu wrote: Empking: I'm not sure, but given that from what I gathered he always plays like this, he doesn't come across as scummy.
Concerningly similar to what Uncle Pain said.
Clu wrote:PhillyEc: I have my misgivings, as you're very much dictating the pace of things right now. I'm not certain if you're a strong townie trying to get results or scum trying to lead us along.
Was this even necessary? You've basically said, I'm not sure about PhilyEc's role, hes either town or scum. Going somewhere with this or are you just trying to add something to your scumhunt contributions?
Clu wrote:fuzzy: Been lurking quite a bit, which I don't like, followed by the whole 'Why do you want a mass claim?' when it wasn't what EMpking actually said. Looking scummiest right now.
Agreed.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 1:44 am

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PhilyEc wrote:Okay, so you have one suspect? I was hoping for at least two..
Well, if I put all four of you in a list ordered by scumminess, I’d get a second suspect. But it would be useless because I hardly have anything to back it up. IMHO we should play this Day considerately, trying to make up for the lack of useful discussion on Day 1. I think this will bring up some aspects.
PhilyEc wrote:I'm stating that this lynch was scum driven in my eyes. The fact that he was a cop was just a major benefit but a case like that would have never stood unless scum settled the doubts of the town players through some sort of success on logic (easy to do with Andy's huge pile of mistakes and backtracking).
Very true but after all, that’s the basic aim of scum, isn’t it. I do agree though that AndyTony made himself a very easy scapegoat back then… and I fell for it.
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Clu wrote: Empking: I'm not sure, but given that from what I gathered he always plays like this, he doesn't come across as scummy.
Concerningly similar to what Uncle Pain said.
Not really concerning but more of a consensus, forum-wide I’d presume. This shouldn’t strike out any real scumminess about him, though.



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Clu, regarding PhilyEc, wrote:I have my misgivings, as you're very much dictating the pace of things right now. I'm not certain if you're a strong townie trying to get results or scum trying to lead us along.
I guess it’s possible for anyone to “lead” the discussion. Leadership alone is rather a null tell in my eyes.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 11:01 am

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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sun May 17, 2009 10:18 pm

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Vote: Fuzzy


If he's town, scum feel free to QL him.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2009 2:07 am

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Fuzzy @ 14th May wrote:I will re-read this game tonight and hopefully make a good post tomorrow, or whenever I get my computer back.
I know this is what I do when I'm scum but I'd like to wait, QL's just fuck up the game for the next day, especially when its a mislynch and to be fair thats quite likely seeing as how he could genuinely be having computer issues.

I say we wait~ Don't like how Clu seems to be backing off...
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2009 2:24 am

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Empking, he hasn’t posted since your demand for claim. Why are you so impatient and take the risk to lose the whole game?

Or are
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2009 3:38 am

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PhilyEc wrote:
Clu wrote:@ PhilyEc

I initially voted for AndyTony as a random vote, yeah, but I then kept my vote on him for a couple of reasons.
Looks to me like you liked where your vote was and though you acknowledged it was still just debates over semantics, never unvoted. You must've been pretty sure he was scum to not take off a random vote...
I gave my reasons right after this section of the post, so why are you speculating about them?
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Clu wrote: Empking: I'm not sure, but given that from what I gathered he always plays like this, he doesn't come across as scummy.
Concerningly similar to what Uncle Pain said.
Uncle Pain wrote: I view Empking rather neutrally, I don’t like his style but he had a decent reason for his Day 1 vote.
I don't see how those two statements are 'concerningly similar' and even then, I don't exactly see how agreeing with somebody is a reason for alarm.
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Clu wrote:PhillyEc: I have my misgivings, as you're very much dictating the pace of things right now. I'm not certain if you're a strong townie trying to get results or scum trying to lead us along.
Was this even necessary? You've basically said, I'm not sure about PhilyEc's role, hes either town or scum. Going somewhere with this or are you just trying to add something to your scumhunt contributions?
Letting everyone know that just because you talk a lot doesn't make you a dead cert for townie.

@Uncle Pain on that last point. Same answer. I know that it's not a tell in itself, but it doesn't clear anyone either.
PhillyEc wrote: I know this is what I do when I'm scum but I'd like to wait, QL's just fuck up the game for the next day, especially when its a mislynch and to be fair thats quite likely seeing as how he could genuinely be having computer issues.
If we mislynch, there won't
be
a next day. That's careless Empking, if you
are
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2009 4:50 am

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Uncle Pain wrote:Empking, he hasn’t posted since your demand for claim. Why are you so impatient and take the risk to lose the whole game?
There's always a risk. I don't think waiting for him to claim reduces that risk.
Or are
you
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I'm scummy for not wanting scum to win?
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Mon May 18, 2009 10:32 am

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Clu wrote:I gave my reasons right after this section of the post, so why are you speculating about them?
Hmm? I'm not entirely sure you're being honest of course. I dont assume anyones being honest at the moment, Day One really didnt help seperate scum from town and vice versa. I'm merely trying to be careful here, I think theres good reason towards being careful >_>
Clu wrote:
PhillyEc wrote: I know this is what I do when I'm scum but I'd like to wait, QL's just fuck up the game for the next day, especially when its a mislynch and to be fair thats quite likely seeing as how he could genuinely be having computer issues.
If we mislynch, there won't
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are
town.
Yes, realised this later today while re-reading ._. Even more reason why Empking's proposal to quicklynch is a bad idea. I'm willing to go a week into this till Im sure who one/two of the scum is/are.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2009 4:04 am

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PhilyEc wrote:
Clu wrote:I gave my reasons right after this section of the post, so why are you speculating about them?
Hmm? I'm not entirely sure you're being honest of course. I dont assume anyones being honest at the moment, Day One really didnt help seperate scum from town and vice versa. I'm merely trying to be careful here, I think theres good reason towards being careful >_>
Clu wrote:
PhillyEc wrote: I know this is what I do when I'm scum but I'd like to wait, QL's just fuck up the game for the next day, especially when its a mislynch and to be fair thats quite likely seeing as how he could genuinely be having computer issues.
If we mislynch, there won't
be
a next day. That's careless Empking, if you
are
town.
Yes, realised this later today while re-reading ._. Even more reason why Empking's proposal to quicklynch is a bad idea. I'm willing to go a week into this till Im sure who one/two of the scum is/are.
FL is scum, are we agreed on that?
Lynching scum is good. Are we agreed on that?
We should lynch FL. Are we agreed on that?
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2009 4:14 am

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EMP:FL is scum, are we agreed on that?
Well hes most likely scum yes...

EMP:Lynching scum is good. Are we agreed on that?
Yup.

EMP:We should lynch FL. Are we agreed on that?
Now? Why so soon? I dont agree. Fuzzy deserves a chance to defend himself.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2009 4:19 am

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I think I've worked out the problem.

I think FL will stay silent till town has two votes on him if we adopt that "Let him defend himself" attitude.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Tue May 19, 2009 10:29 am

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This might be a little WIFOM'y - but if fuzzy
isn't
scum, it's been a day since a vote has been put on him. I would have thought that the two scum would have just quicklynched him else, after all, that would mean they win. I mean, there could be reasons not to to in other set ups, but when everyone knows exactly what's out there, I don't see why they wouldn't just, y'know, go for it right away.

Just a thought, at this poitn, there's no reason for the scum to be clever about avoiding a quicklynch.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2009 1:02 am

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Clu wrote:This might be a little WIFOM'y - but if fuzzy
isn't
scum, it's been a day since a vote has been put on him. I would have thought that the two scum would have just quicklynched him else, after all, that would mean they win. I mean, there could be reasons not to to in other set ups, but when everyone knows exactly what's out there, I don't see why they wouldn't just, y'know, go for it right away.

Just a thought, at this poitn, there's no reason for the scum to be clever about avoiding a quicklynch.
Thats a good point. This adds to why Fuzzy is most likely scum also =/
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2009 3:00 pm

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Ok, I don't understand Empking telling me if I am town to claim or die, considering I didn't even have a vote at that point. But also asking for a quicklynch after putting a vote on me, that seems anti-town for him to do.

If the town would like me to claim, could two people, not Empking ask me to claim?

As far as who I think is scum, this game has become like many newbie's, with all the lurking, myself included, although it is because I don't have my computer back yet. I still have to use the firehouse computer and I am not normally on for that long.

I digress, currently, my top 2 are UP and Empking. Empking mainly for tunneling, now I realize that he is tunneling on me,, so this may seem OMGUS, but he hasn't looked at anyone else today as far as I can tell. UP because of the way he focused on AT yesterday.

Is the only case on me right now really for the fact that I have not been active in this game and haven't been quicklynched?
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2009 7:53 pm

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fuzzylightning wrote:Ok, I don't understand Empking telling me if I am town to claim or die, considering I didn't even have a vote at that point. But also asking for a quicklynch after putting a vote on me, that seems anti-town for him to do.

If the town would like me to claim, could two people, not Empking ask me to claim?

As far as who I think is scum, this game has become like many newbie's, with all the lurking, myself included, although it is because I don't have my computer back yet. I still have to use the firehouse computer and I am not normally on for that long.

I digress, currently, my top 2 are UP and Empking. Empking mainly for tunneling, now I realize that he is tunneling on me,, so this may seem OMGUS, but he hasn't looked at anyone else today as far as I can tell. UP because of the way he focused on AT yesterday.

Is the only case on me right now really for the fact that I have not been active in this game and haven't been quicklynched?
Player behaviour over the reaction to the prospect of your lynch being so cautious is a good tell that theres scum being targetted for a lynch since scum themselves push for mislynches, hastening the voting process. I've only seen Empking pushing for a lynch to be honest. He seems positive you're scum (not sure why as even though Im in the 90% sure area I don't want to vote yet). Do claim though, town is considering your lynch.
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Wed May 20, 2009 10:49 pm

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UP: Ask for a claim.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2009 7:02 am

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At this point, the only reason I can see for scum not piling onto a townie is because they want to have some kind of bragging rights for tricking eople or something. All the same, the longer it goes without somebody jumping on fuzzy, the more convinced I am.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2009 9:02 am

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Well we have a week to discuss still. Fuzzy should claim since pretty much everyone thinks hes scum. I still feel dodgy about this though..

@Clu, why would scum drag out an easy lynch like this? I could understand what you said but since everyone wants a lynch on Fuzzy it doesnt make much sense for scum to wait. Rather, I'd say because this isnt happening theres alot more reason to consider Fuzzy scum

@Fuzzy, if you read this, its time you claim.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2009 9:31 am

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Philly, that's what I meant, sorry if I didn't make that clear.

My only point was that if fuzzy's not scum, the only reason I can see for scum not piling on is because they want to gloat about it, which isn't exactly good gameplay.

That's why I added 'the longer he isn't getting piled, the more likely it is he's scum' bit.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Thu May 21, 2009 10:39 pm

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4 days since UP said anything.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2009 12:00 am

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Prod on UP
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Fri May 22, 2009 11:58 pm

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5.... >_>
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Uncle Pain prodded thoroughly

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