@Claus:
Thanks for playing. I see what you mean. Not sure if I agree. Don't you think it is a bit early to accuse someone of trying to speedlynch when the wagon has exactly 2 votes? Do you have anything else on Red?
1. Not when the person in question admits to the accusation.
2. He's sheeping to magnus in the early pages, but that's it right now (doing this as I go along, so this is subject to change).
Also, what do you think about Magnus Orion? He is voting with Red.
magnus is town, and seems quite happy about it. I'd reveal his master plan (I've seen it multiple times, and he's explained it to me in detail) but it may not be finished yet, so I'll leave that to him.
@Herodotus:
Kairyuu 13
Red Dye's post 11 didn't look serious, so I wouldn't have been on board to go after him for it.
He made an assertion, and I called him on it. If he had backed down from the stupid idea then I would likely have looked for somewhere else to put my vote, but he didn't. In fact, he sheeped to magnus and called me scum for it (aka quasi-OGUS).
Kairyuu 19
When you say that your vote is serious, does that mean that you want to pressure/lynch Red Dye?
Edit: do you currently consider him a good lynch?
1. My votes are rarely, if ever, for pressure. If I'm calling my vote serious then I want it to end in a lynch. There's no such thing as halfway for me.
2. Yes, yes I do.
Kairyuu 38
I agree with sentence #1. It's not clear whether it applies to Artem's post, but it does refute Magnus's point. However, my reading of your post 19 makes me feel like you could have had a similar opinion about Red Dye's attack on Artem (at that time, at least.) Is that correct?
Not quite sure what you're asking here. Rephrase?
I don't think Red Dye's vote was likely to "extend the RVS." Maybe over the long term in the site meta, attacking the first person who looks serious could make RVS's longer, but not within a given game.
More like he saw Artem as a threat to the continuation of the RVS, and thought to "drown him out," so to speak, in order to keep it going. My point on the subject was rather weak in the first place.
@Artem:
@Kairyuu: Mind clarifying that last point? Why did you focus on the speedlynching aspect of Red's vote on me rather than the lack of reasons?
The lack of reasons is meh. I don't really see voting without reasons as overly much of a tell. I used to call it out all the time, but I never found a good enough correlation to call it much of a tell.
@le Chat:
Kairyuu stated that 'the first approach to ending the RVS is more likely to be made by town than scum, though it could be made by either' ... uh, how so? I understand that getting away from the RVS is good for the progression of the game, but I don't follow that town would more likely end the RVS, unless you are specifically referring to the fact that there are more town than scum, and that is silly logic too.
Simple. Scum like the RVS. The chaos and confusion allows them to make early anti-town plays and not be called on it. Generally speaking, it is a town motivation to get out of that chaos and into serious scumhunting. The town provides the driving force behind moving the game along. Several experiments have been done (only one that I can remember right now, run by JDodge a few months ago) in running an all-scum game, and most, if not all, have fallen on their faces and been abandoned. If there's no drive to scumhunt, then there's no drive to advance the game. Town provides both of these.
@Nuwen:
Hey Kairyuu, general thoughts on Artem whenever you get back.
Looks reasonably good at the moment, but history has taught me that he's good at convincing me he's town when he isn't. Gonna go with neutral read.
@MM:
My play on Day 1 always stinks. I'm all but useless on Day 1...I know this and anyone that has played with me knows this. That is why I replace in after Day 1 in most games. I'm working on it bt, apparently I have a slow learning curve for Day 1...hehheeh! My vote for Hero was a joke and I'm not going to deny that. That being said, I'm not going to jump up and down and fight my lynch...the Town will gain information from it and my role is not all that important.
Cop out.
FoS: MM
Conclusions:
Magnus is obv-town.
Claus and Herodotus are probing for scum. Probably town
Rosso is annoying, but I don't think his behavior is particularly indicative of scum.
Nuwen gets some scum points for trying to policy lynch Rosso and then going up in arms about being asked to lynch MM when she doesn't see strong alignment tells. Possible link to MM, though it is weak.
MM gets far more scum points for the Herodotus vote and then the cop out "I suck at D1s."
Red_Dye has done absolutely nothing to alleviate my suspicion. Top lynch choice as of right now.
Neutral reads on everyone else.
Would lynch:
Red_Dye
MM
Because, no matter how you dress it up, that's what the world is. A community of idiots doing a series of things until the world explodes and we all die.
