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[NickF227]

Hey-o.

Vote: Pomegranate

Pomegranates suck.

[NickF227]

Hey-o.

Vote: Pomegranate

Pomegranates suck.

Lynch all Liars!

Unvote; Vote:NickF227

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Rikku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yuna

[NickF227]

Hey-o.

Vote: Pomegranate

Pomegranates suck.

Lynch all Liars!

Unvote; Vote:NickF227

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Rikku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yuna

And Tifa beats them both. So put your vote on our confirmed scummy people.

Whose that? I haven't really been paying attention. >_>

[NickF227]

Unvote
Vote: NickF227

for pretending to be a Final Fantasy fan and then not playing Final Fantasy VII. Fail.

Noooo, I was asking who was scummy. >_>

[NickF227]

Sorry! I was really busy today, I just got home an hour or two ago, and I had to finish up a paper and was about to go to bed before I remembered to check here.

I'll read over and decide on a vote tomorrow. I'm really tired and I can't think when I'm tired.

For example, I randomly typed 'tomorrow' after tired in that last sentence. Why? I don't know.

[NickF227]

Bv...I'm not sure. I mean, the flip flopping is definitely scummy, but then he only really voted after pressure all around from people thought his noncommitement was scummy and those on the Richard wagon, a little bit.

Richard's last post reeks of desperation and kinda looks like an attempt to look town, but I think his vote for farside after him saying that he thinks a town farside would post like that is a bit weird.

I'll read over the thread again after I finish up this homework I have, but for now:

Unvote: Pomegranate, Vote: RichardGHP

[NickF227]

/prodded
Gosh, its the weekend. I'll make a post when I get home from work.

[NickF227]

Espeonage, My Milked Eek, NickF227 and curiouskarmadog prodded.

why am I getting prodded on Monday when I posted on Sat?...I will try to add something this week time permitting.

This.

And, in my opinion and my experience, player's like ABR aren't scum, they're just annoying. They'll probably be killed by a vig first night just so they don't accidentally pick off a useful townie because of a false read. Still, he shouldn't really be listened to because he's just screwing with people for fun.

I mean, his first post in this thread was complaining about 'active lurkers' and the new type of player.

[NickF227]

@Nick: If you're keeping your vote on Richard, can you elaborate on the things you mentioned? Why is the vote on farside weird? Was his voting after being under pressure a strong or weak tell for him being town or scum?

Well, I think its pretty clear. Saying that farside looks town in one post and then voting for her in the next post is pretty....well, do I really need to explain this? Its self-explanatory.

Voting under pressure, to me, is a weak tell either way you look at it, but I think it'd be more of a scum tell. A townie has nothing to prove, but a mafioso wants to 'prove' that he isn't scum, so they are more likely to follow orders. Just my experience, though.

[NickF227]

Eh?

Oh, I guess I just remembered wrong, I didn't read the whole thread before posting that and I just assumed based on what people said before. I think that whole 20 different quotes post confused me.

[NickF227]

Okay, I cna't find the post, but I know farside asked me who was scummy, so...

I think both Richard and Albert are scummy. Albert is just dicking around, making inane posts, either he's scum or just doing it to be a douchebag.

And Richard...I suspect him, because when has he even acted pro-town?

[NickF227]

Okay, I cna't find the post, but I know farside asked me who was scummy, so...

I think both Richard and Albert are scummy. Albert is just dicking around, making inane posts, either he's scum or just doing it to be a douchebag.

And Richard...I suspect him, because when has he even acted pro-town?

Unvote Vote: Nick.

Even more sure than I am of bv.

On what grounds? You're an idiot.

[NickF227]

I disdain this day in this particular game.

Omw <3

Games that start on Day are annoying. Who even came up with it?

Oh, and since it is SO SCUMMY to be voting for Richard...

Unvote, Vote: bv

[NickF227]

Day 2?

Oh, just fyi, the only access to the net on Monday and Tuesday is my Droid Eris, I'm going on a trip for a high school thing. FBLA states. Big fun.

I want to see if Pom claims before I vote, and I'm gonna read over the end of Day 1, really didn't look at it too much.

[NickF227]

Any comment on my post, Nick?

tl;dr

[NickF227]

Returning to my Nick case. See Post 519, Post 893.

Vote: NickF227

...Um, post 893 is uh...nothing but you voting for Pom after Day 2 started?

Whatever, I just got basck from my trip, I'll read through the thread.

[NickF227]

Returning to my Nick case. See Post 519, Post 893.

Vote: NickF227

...Um, post 893 is uh...nothing but you voting for Pom after Day 2 started?

Whatever, I just got basck from my trip, I'll read through the thread.

No, that's wrong.

Oh, I missed the rest of the post, I thought that was your signature for some reason....

I really have nothing to say, that's...there. Its not really scummy though, IMO. Of course, I am me and I know I'm a villager, so...yeah.

But, I did give bv's vote the lead and all, and he did turn out to be mafia...soo..... Yeah.....If I was mafia, wouldn't I have waited until people actually jumped off the Richard bandwagon and bv was close to being lynched?

Oh, and:

O.K. listen up. This is important.

What if Pom is scum and has a "WEAK ABILITY: NK A PLAYER, STRONG ABILITY: SUICIDE AND NK 2 PLAYERS" type role? Then letting her survive one night will FUCK us.

Do you understand?

Lynch pom.

...wut.

This is pretty...outta left field? I mean, there's Pom's weird claim and then there's...THIS. Just, wtf.

And why am I criticized for looking like I lurk when there's people like Amished who do it about the same as I do?

[NickF227]

Of course, I am me and I know I'm a villager, so...yeah.

I'm intrigued. Why did you just roleclaim for no reason?

I did? I was just saying I am on the town's side....

[NickF227]

And its wrong to criticize me if you are not going to criticize everyone else who does it?

[NickF227]

In that post, I was referring to the post Pom thinks I'm referring to. Why is that an issue?

[NickF227]

Wagon, Porachaz?

There's one person on it...That isn't a wagon.

[NickF227]

Actually, you would've noticed if you read the thread that Jahudo unvoted me and voted Pom....

[NickF227]

@Nick: do you think pom is scum? do you think the claim is fake?

I definitely think here claim is fake, since when do hider's die when they hide? And the weak and strong are basically the exact same thing. I'm not sure if she is actually scum though, she could be a cop who doesn't want to reveal their actual role, since to me she doesn't act too scummy compared to other people. I need to read the thread again though.

[NickF227]

IMO, ABR is scum if Pom turns up town. He's all tunnel vision about lynching her, and he seems more scummy to me than Pom does.

[NickF227]

Nick, this is obscure but actually fairly relevant to my vote on you: do you play mafia somewhere else than here? And if yes, what's the place called (I don't know if links to other mafia sites are allowed anywhere on mafiascum but some name with I could find it by googling)?

I've played a few other places....but they aren't like dedicated mafia boards, just other boards that just randomly had a few mafias and I played. And I played on some flash site, I forget what it was called but it was a site where you amateur dev's could make crappy MMOGs with the site's system and a mafia game was really popular.

The first two are one's where you have to register to view them, but if you still want them, I can give them to you.

[NickF227]

Vote: ABR

Really, people? I think last day's spectacle is enough reasoning

[NickF227]

I am going to reread him but I think, based on my impressions yesterday, Nick is scum.

Vote: Nick

Can I just tell you, one thing?

Wouldn't I have hammered or at least voted for Pom if I was scum? And thne just say 'Oops she was so scummy and everyone else was doing it?'

Nope, I didn't vote for her cuz I didn't think she was that scummy.

And I was right.

That's so scummy <3

[NickF227]

Prodded! I'm sorry, I've been so sick the past few days, I've been having trouble getting on.

[NickF227]

Alright. A couple of things I've noticed about Nick's play:

1. An obsession with ABR

And, in my opinion and my experience, player's like ABR aren't scum, they're just annoying. They'll probably be killed by a vig first night just so they don't accidentally pick off a useful townie because of a false read. Still, he shouldn't really be listened to because he's just screwing with people for fun.

First, he tries to discredit him and tell people to ignore him based on nothing besides being "annoying".

I think both Richard and Albert are scummy. Albert is just dicking around, making inane posts, either he's scum or just doing it to be a douchebag.

This is pretty...outta left field? I mean, there's Pom's weird claim and then there's...THIS. Just, wtf.

Vote: ABR

Really, people? I think last day's spectacle is enough reasoning

2. A bizarre attack

Saying that farside looks town in one post and then voting for her in the next post is pretty....well, do I really need to explain this? Its self-explanatory.

No, it's not. It's not even based in reality as, mentioned earlier, it never happened.

3. Bizarre and unhelpful play

Any comment on my post, Nick?

tl;dr

Um...lolwut

4. A WIFOM defense...several times

I did give bv's vote the lead and all, and he did turn out to be mafia...soo..... Yeah.....If I was mafia, wouldn't I have waited until people actually jumped off the Richard bandwagon and bv was close to being lynched?

Wouldn't I have hammered or at least voted for Pom if I was scum? And thne just say 'Oops she was so scummy and everyone else was doing it?'

5. a strange roleclaim out of nowhere

I know I'm a villager

6. Setting up ABR's lynch while supporting a Pom lynch

I definitely think here claim is fake, since when do hider's die when they hide? And the weak and strong are basically the exact same thing. I'm not sure if she is actually scum though, she could be a cop who doesn't want to reveal their actual role, since to me she doesn't act too scummy compared to other people.

Alright, this is incredibly wishy-washiness while still looking like he agrees with the town. So, the claim is definitely fake. But she's still town. So go ahead and lynch her, but I'm definitely not on the wagon so don't attack me if she comes up town kthxbai

IMO, ABR is scum if Pom turns up town. He's all tunnel vision about lynching her, and he seems more scummy to me than Pom does.

Nice setup for tomorrow's lynch.

So, what I'm saying is this: Nick's play reeks, especially his opinion on Pom's claim. I can understand not suscribing to LAL but Nick is unable to put out good reasoning for why Pom would lie as town. Wouldn't a claim like cop or something keep her alive longer, rather than a common scum claim like hider? I think that Nick was trying to escape being on the wagon while still agreeing with the majority of the town.

1-3 is dumb, 4 isn't WiFOM, its a legitimate question.....5 was an alignment claim? Whatever, and 6...wtf, I'm a prophet now? Awesome! <3

[NickF227]

Is there a 'Make a poster shut the fuck up for a day' role? I'd apreesh if it was used on ABR so his bullshit can stop flying. Its annoying.

I kinda wish Sando was town now, the backtrack by ABR would've been so much more glorious.

K, back to the game...

Everyone else has brought up good points, it seems like Espy is on every single counter wagon that was in this game, and shes' always been on people's radars.

Vote: Espeonage

[NickF227]

Hey, Nick, why the sudden 180 on ABR? I totally expected you to be hitting him hard today after the backtrack.

IMO, Espy has a stronger case against her, and no one really wants to vote ABR, for whatever reason.

[NickF227]

So I'm scum even though I've never lynched a townie, was a counterwagon at one point, and I've been targeted by scummier people?

K.

[NickF227]

I don't buy Espy's claim at all, mostly because he said it was his role was 'Vanilla Townie', even though earlier in the game by a townie death, it showed the role was named 'Villager' here. =/

[NickF227]

So you guys think Espy is scum but since you have suuuch stone cold proof we have to switch our votes now?

Metagaming is gay, anyway.

[NickF227]

So you guys think Espy is scum but since you have suuuch stone cold proof we have to switch our votes now?

Metagaming is gay, anyway.

Please ask to replace if your going to continue to be useless.
Your also calling espy scum when your on game play is less then stellar so pot this is kettle. Get the fuck off me.

WTF? I wasn't even talking to you in specific But just for you I'll keep being useless. <3

[NickF227]

How about you give a full case ABR or GTFO. =/

Vote: Espeonage

[NickF227]

/prodded

Sorry! I had a busy weekend, out and stuff, ya know? Its either been out, work, or sleeping. =/

[NickF227]

/prodded

Sorry! I had a busy weekend, out and stuff, ya know? Its either been out, work, or sleeping. =/

Hey.

What are your current thoughts? Who is scummiest and why?

Also sorry for the wall of text, but I have 78 pagges of stuff to comment on.

Well, IMO, if people think I act scummy, I've definitely done things that are not scummy, I mean, I would've forced the Pom lynch and not waiting for the extra few days to let someone else to do it, or the last lynch, it kinda just sat there for a while....I mean, yeah.

And for scummiest, I still think Espy is the scummiest one. I don't think he's ever been on the right side of a lynch, and...just in general. I think we keep getting off track anmd its hurting us.

[NickF227]

Nick: What do you think of Shanba/Faraday's claim?

IMO, its too idiotic sounding for it to be made up/faked. I was never really on the Faraday is scum anyway wagon, so yeah. =/

[NickF227]

/Prod

Sorry! I've been so busy with finals the past week or so, but now that I'm done I have more free time. I'll make a post later.

[NickF227]

Didn't ABR admit he was just bullshitting to get Sando lynched?

[NickF227]

Its pretty obvious I'm not scum, I mean I was the first person to ever use the term 'villager' in reference to my role, before anyone was lynched/killed and it revealed his name for the vanilla townie role....

But whatever.

Unvote, vote: dybeck

[NickF227]

Vote: Shanba

[NickF227]

I uh, voted already?

[NickF227]

But I'll post it again...

Vote: Dybeck

Maybe you didn't get that because I'm whatever that role is, you know, the outsider one, as a hidden role? I remember reading about it but I forget the name for it. Miller? I dunno, but my PM says I'm town-aligned.

[NickF227]

And why the hell are you all just following Dybeck blindly? A smart mafia would try and kill him the first chance they get.

Dybeck is mafia.

Duuuh.

[NickF227]

What? What the fuck are you talking about? Didn't you just say that you investigated me last night, but now you were roleblocked?

And I SAID that maybe I was the Miller, because I don't know if I am, if I theoretically am. You do know how that role works, right?

And no Jahudo, I can't do anything at night.

[NickF227]

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Miller

[NickF227]

All my PM says is that I'm an ordinary villager. God.

[NickF227]

Does that mean you only find if someone has a power or not, not their alignment?

[NickF227]

We have to improve our credentials?

In my opinion, he forgot about the different modes when coming up with this fakeclaim, and is stalling for time. Lyyynch.

[NickF227]

Unvote, vote Shanba

THANK YOU ABR AS INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL AS EVER <3

No explanation?

[NickF227]

It had been a while Boberz....I dunno, can you find it for me?

[NickF227]

It personally doesn't make sense to me because....

1. Saying whether someone does or does not have a power, just that, seems more weak mode than strong to me, and strong would be alignment, just in my opinion.
2. Why does he refuse to give up his weak mode, and what would make it useless? I do not get that at ALL.
3. Also, yeah, what Jahudo said, Pom said earlier that using strong too much had a consequence, right? Like something bad would happen? He couldn't have used it so many nights in a row...

[NickF227]

Pretty sure that's exactly what he's saying. =/

Anyone got a fun way to kill time? This week has sucked for me so far.

[NickF227]

<prod

I don't think Shanba is scum at all, tbh.

And there can't be a serial killer, because there hasn't been two kills every night. Its probably a Vig, right?

[NickF227]

Why was Faraday confirmed town again? You would think the mafia would take a confirmed town out to create some doubt....I forgot why, I'll go back and check.

I'll vote in the morning.....I don't know what to think.

[NickF227]

I forgot about this, I'm soooo sorry!

[NickF227]

Okay, just read everything, and I have a few things to say.

Okay, if Faraday is to be believed, there was 4 mafias at the beginning of the game....(3+BV), we lynced one, so there is 2 left. So, since we have 6 left...

We lynch Fara- We lose, since itll be 3T, 2M, they kill a T, if successful we lose since it's 2-2.
We lynch a Mafia successfully- If SK kills the last mafia at night, we win, if SK kills town, its 1T, 1M, 1SK and SK or M wins, depending on how the last T votes.
We lynch a Town- SK wins.

Of course, this is only right if Fara isn't lying about the numbers.

So yeah, just pointing that out...We have a really slim chance at winning, town.(Thanks to some people's fuck ups....)

But I am a village, vanilla townie, whatever you want to say, my exact PM is on the front page in the rules, yeah.

After reading everything, I'm pretty sure on the two mafia, and CKD is one of them, so...

Vote: curiouskarmadog

[NickF227]

And to the 'CKD wasn't tracked as sending the kill in', um, hello, isn't that the head of the mafia's job?

[NickF227]

And to the 'CKD wasn't tracked as sending the kill in', um, hello, isn't that the head of the mafia's job?

really that is how your mafia works? Also, curious, given Faraday's claim (and your obvious belief of it) who do you think is the other scum, and why?

No, just the game I've played in, the Godfather has the responsibility of the kill until he dies, and then whoever can kill, sooooo.......Yeah.

And I think this is the most emotion I've seen from you all game, someone is a BIT defensive, aren't they?

And I don't exactly BELIEVE Faraday, I need to go back through the Doc's claimed targets and Faraday's claimed targets to see if my theory is right, I'll look at it after I eat dinner.

[NickF227]

No, seriously. All the recent games Ive played with him he is a total freaking moron. Which annoys me more becuase I know he is not a moron, as Nick for example.

I am not an idiot. D: