Newbie 996 - Starting Small [Game Over]

[moose200x]

I feel parama and cliquey should be doing more to help town since they are more experienced. I have not much to go on and feel their wisdom could be the ray of light this town needs.

[kunkstar7]

:: VoteCount 3x5 ::

moose200x (0) -
smargaret (2) -

Parama, moose200x

[L-1]
Doubtful (1) -

smargaret

Parama (0) -

Cliquey (0) -

Not Voting (2) -

Cliquey, Doubtful

With 5 Alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline - September 15, 2010 8:00PM EST.

Cliquey has been prodded.

[moose200x]

This game has stalled hardcore. Everyone needs to list their top 2 suspects. After all 5 of us post them we will lynch the most voted for person
1. Smargaret
2. Cliquey

[Parama]

1. Smargaret
2. Doubtful

TBQH I have little to nothing more to say about this game. I've made my case, I'm almost positive smargaret is the last scum. Not really much else to say :/

[Doubtful]

1. Parama
2. smargaret

I have a pro-town read on Cliquey from his responses to the "accusations" on him D1-2, and he doesn't seem to try hiding anything.

As for smargaret,

256:

256: And if you were scum, you could do exactly the same thing and then when a townie hammered, say the townie must be scum for hammering. I could see jim reading you trying to lead town to a mislynch as telling him to hammer - remember, this is day 1, scum hasn't had a night to discuss strategy yet.

Wait, are you talking about if the hammerer was town thinking I was scum trying to get a mislynch?

8. I know you hate arguments based on meta, BUT - look at yours. You play as obvtown whether you're town or scum. In one of the scum games I read, you won precisely because nobody even guessed you might be scum. Now, I don't think that's the case this game, and I think that the remaining scum is Doubtful. That argument isn't strong enough to make alone, hence wanting to pressure you. It's not something I'm that interested in right now.

That's what you're supposed to do as scum and town, to gain general credibility. What does this have to do with the argument against either me or Parama? If you think Parama is being "obvtown", how can you determine if he's scum or town? (As you've said, he could be both) Or do you have a 100% scum read on me, hence making it impossible for Parama to be scum?

Please point it out if I've missed anything. There's not too much more of an argument I can make, except to repeat everything I've said about Doubtful. But really, if you lynch me today and him tomorrow, I'll be happy.

You seem too sure.

maybe so you can make that arguement.
Tehehe jk I'm a mafia role blocker

I could see DMSIS the townie posting that out of bitterness. I could see DMSIS the scum posting that out of a desire to screw us up.

I thought being truthful has become reflexive for you because of F2F?
So how could you still see a townie posting a RB claim? Is it because you are scum?

[moose200x]

Doubtful, go ahead and hammer smargert.

[moose200x]

Somebody hammer please, hell, the scum should just self hammer

[Cliquey]

Spoiler: Opinions

TBQH I have little to nothing more to say about this game. I've made my case, I'm

almost

not

positive

smargaret

who

is the last scum. Not really much else to say :/

I've felt Doubtful to be protown all game, moose is cleared, Parama all I can tell is Too Town fallacy, and I don't really feel about smargaret. I don't know about voting due to elimination though.

[smargaret]

1. Doubtful
2. Parama

Though on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being confirmed scum by a cop, I think Doubtful is about an 8 and Parama and Cliquey are both at a 3/4.

Doubtful: 256 - Yes, I'm saying you could be scum trying to provoke town into hammering for a mislynch, thus giving us two mislynches (because we'd almost certainly lynch the hammerer day 2) with very little scum effort. jim jumping in to hammer could well have been a mistake.

8- it has nothing to do with current cases. I was explaining my past reasoning.

Why I'm so sure - because you're the only person I have a real scum read on right now, and I have fairly strong town reads on everyone else.

Truth - See my post 284 on page 12.

I'm probably going to be away from the computer the rest of the day. I'm VT. I'm not going to self-hammer because that's just stupid. I strongly believe that Doubtful is the last scum. And Moose, I'm curious why you changed your mind - you were sure he was scum at the start of day 3 as well.

[Doubtful]

Doubtful, go ahead and hammer smargert.

Why would I hammer smargaret if I think Parama?

I strongly believe that Doubtful is the last scum. And Moose, I'm curious why you changed your mind - you were sure he was scum at the start of day 3 as well.

Moose?

Truth - See my post 284 on page 12.

So? That example is an immediate counterexample of players in F2F always telling the truth.

Doubtful: 256 - Yes, I'm saying you could be scum trying to provoke town into hammering for a mislynch, thus giving us two mislynches (because we'd almost certainly lynch the hammerer day 2) with very little scum effort. jim jumping in to hammer could well have been a mistake.

True point, but when you put someone at L-1 you take the risk of a townie hammering randomly and causing two mislynches. I'm not the only one that put someone at L-1 this game. You put people at L-1 to see how they and other people would react, exactly what I was trying to do.

[KawaiiMelon]

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[Cliquey]

Spoiler: mod

vote:smargaret

get things moving.

[Parama]

Cliquey - Do you think Smargaret will flip scum or town?

[kunkstar7]

:: Final VoteCount of Day Three ::

moose200x (0) -
smargaret (3) -

Parama, moose200x, Cliquey

[Lynched.]
Doubtful (1) -

smargaret

Parama (0) -

Cliquey (0) -

Not Voting (1) -

Doubtful

Lynch has been reached at 3 votes.

Modscene forthcoming...

[kunkstar7]

---

They prepared to add yet another macabre corpse to their increasing collection. As the body rose like the tides of the sea, slowly swaying back and forth, the sun gradually faded below the horizon.

Yet they were not to receive to satisfaction that came with yesterday's lynch.

Smargaret's

corpse smiled innocently down upon the crowd, as innocently as

smargaret

herself.

smargaret,

Vanilla Townie

, Lynched Day 3.

---

Night Three Begins Now.

Night Three ends Tuesday, September 7, 2:00pm EST.

[kunkstar7]

---

They feared what they would find.

At first the town seemed undisturbed. No signs of violent disturbance, no lifeless bodies.

Yet this was not to remain.

Moose200x

was found lying in his bed peacefully. All was normal except for his hands.

Nailed through each of his fingers was a white flag, drenched with blood from the tips of his fingers. A crude number two was stitched into the flag.

moose200x,

Vanilla Townie

, Shot Night 3.

---

Day Four Begins Now.

Deadline for Day Four is September 28, 1:00pm EST.

[kunkstar7]

:: VoteCount 4x0 ::

Doubtful (0) -

Parama (0) -

Cliquey (0) -

Not Voting (3) -

Cliquey, Doubtful, Parama

With 3 Alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Deadline - September 28, 2010 1:00PM EST.

[Parama]

Uuuuuuuuugh.
I want to say it's Doubtful, but I still want a response from Cliquey on the question I posed before nightfall - Did you think smargaret would flip town or scum when you hammered?

[Parama]

Um, we seem to be lacking discussion, Doubtful, and Cliquey in this thread.

[Doubtful]

I don't exactly have much to say... I still think Parama after rereading. I've stated my case on Parama, and I have an overall town read from Cliquey.

[Parama]

If you think that, you should be voting me. Of course you'd be wrong in your vote, but then again if you're scum like I'm thinking you are, it shouldn't really matter too much.
I'm still waiting from a response from Cliquey, though, and I'd really like to hear it before I make my final decision.

[Cliquey]

Spoiler: Great expectations

On the whole I didn't really expect smargaret to come up scum, but I was ready to be pleasantly surprised. As I said (or maybe hinted at) I didn't really have any scumreads, just town reads and smargaret's was the weakest of those. It really was a vote to get a stalled game moving... if it won it, it won it. I'd be happy. If not, it didn't lose the game.

I'm not one to drag games on if I'm the lynchpin, if I am I'll have to filter out moosespam and try to get to the bottom of this.

[Parama]

Um, okay, I don't feel like drawing this out without having any discussion.

vote: Doubtful

Let's hope this isn't wrong, though I don't think it is.

[Doubtful]

VOTE: Parama

Cliquey? If you aren't going to hammer please make a post...

[Doubtful]

Spoiler: Opinions

TBQH I have little to nothing more to say about this game. I've made my case, I'm

almost

not

positive

smargaret

who

is the last scum. Not really much else to say :/

I've felt Doubtful to be protown all game, moose is cleared, Parama all I can tell is Too Town fallacy, and I don't really feel about smargaret. I don't know about voting due to elimination though.

EBWOP: This feels rather off being that I feel you are trying to use this post as a method of voting smar when the game stalled. This is also why I didn't vote Parama when Parama told me "You should be voting me"