This is what I took it to mean. This is how I feel as well. Like you earlier, mine is currently a gut read. I'll have to re-read before I can expand properly.Hoopla wrote:Da_Mafia_Godfather wrote:Hang on. I think I misinterpreted Empking's original post - it looks like you're saying thatI'vemade no town tells myself
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I think the fact that I am "pro" works out of my favour. I'm a creature of habit, in small open games I like (and am used to) to get acquainted with everyone (and their avatars, play style ect) in the RVS.andrew94 wrote:no. empking i meant that you are known aka pro aka good player aka WILL NOT BE CONFUSED BY HOOPLA-
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Because town (if they had posted as much as yourself) would've dopped a town tell. Its as simple as that.Hoopla wrote:Empking, why is me supposedly not dropping town tells suspcious?
Because CA hasn't posted enough game content to say "yeah, he should've dropped a town tell by now"Or at least, why is it any more suspicious than other players you have a neutral read on?
Confirmed: StefWho are your current town reads?
Almost Certain: Andrew, Fenchurch
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Yes. That is pretty much what it hinges on for me.
Although I haven't re-read yet, so there could be something I've missed. And it could just be because I've seen you play a strong scum-game, so my meter is adjusted.
Ald: you haven't voted for most of the game. Who is your top suspect now and why?-
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Well if cautiousness is the only accusation being lobbed at me then I will just leave it to other people to decide whether or not that has to do with my playstyle or my role.
Anyway, to answer Fenchurch, I do not have any good scum reads ATM. One problem is that I have spent too much time arguing with DMG and waiting for CA. When I find the time I will read (or at least skim over) the game again.
The Hoopla case is very silly without any scum tells to back it up. The argument is that Hoopla is scum because she hasn't given off any town tells. But I can make the same argument in reverse: Hoopla is town because she hasn't given off any scum tells.CLICK HERE FOR THE ALDUSKKEL APPRECIATION PAGE
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Sure, in a vacuum. But when other players have made town tells (ie. things that you don't think they would have said or thought of if they were scum), and we know that someone IS scum, then that is most likely to be the player who hasn't.Alduskkel wrote:The Hoopla case is very silly without any scum tells to back it up. The argument is that Hoopla is scum because she hasn't given off any town tells. But I can make the same argument in reverse: Hoopla is town because she hasn't given off any scum tells.-
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I'm afraid I don't, but you could try posting in the Open Queue, a lot of people seem to put their replacement requests there these days, as well as the official replacement thread.-
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I think... I'm up for lynching CA instead of replacing him. The posts he has made in the game didn't seem especially townie, and add to that the fact that he's ditched this game in particular, means he's either bored by it, or doesn't want to put in the work to defend himself, which I see as a mild scumtell. The usual danger of lynching in absentia is that they could be a power role, but I think the chances of that are low in this case. He was high enough on my scum list anyway.
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I'll retract my vote, but not my sucky post.
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I don't think you can really say that without knowing the alignment of the other games he didn't flake from. Kind of strange to continue posting on site but completely ignore and not even acknowledge why you're leaving.Fenchurch wrote:I'll retract my vote, but not my sucky post.
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I agree that it's strange. But I don't think the two possible explanations I gave are that far-fetched. If someone chooses to abandon a game, surely there's a good chance it's because they see it as unwinnable, unfun, or both.Hoopla wrote:I don't think you can really say that without knowing the alignment of the other games he didn't flake from. Kind of strange to continue posting on site but completely ignore and not even acknowledge why you're leaving.
CA picked up a some votes and pressure pretty quickly in the game, and my experience is it takes more effort to defend yourself when the points against you are true.
If he has a better reason for leaving, then I'd have expected him to post to explain.
Ugh I don't know. I guess your argument is, why didn't he just make up a lie as to why he was leaving. And my only answer is that it's extra work to create a lie. I don't know.-
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