How are you evil, Oso? Let me count the ways.
1. Oso saying scum killed traitor on purpose
2. Hey, remember when Parama saved Oso by deflecting the wagon onto Twisted?
3. Communication between Parama and Oso?
4. Defeatism
5. Loves to think like scum
6. Tries to claim that Twisted's alignment means he's innocent
7. Forgot about (inferior) Bub case
I don't think it's all plausible that scum intentionally killed off the traitor, and I thought it very bizarre when Oso claimed as much in a p-edit. I doubt he'd have had to back himself into a corner with
posts like
these if he hadn't included that p-edit. In my mind this is part of a larger pattern of thinking like scum.* (Look for the * for more thinking like scum.)
When I asked him where he came up with this crazy idea, he said he'd go do some research on how this could possibly occur:
Oso wrote:In addition to getting a much longer post together at the moment, I'm also looking for actions that I would expect to see if Parama was intentionally NKed and they knew he was the traitor. Not finding anything worth bringing out except as an 'in case' scenario. 'In case' we flip scum today or tomorrow and the game doesn't end.
But all he comes up with is that Mafia wanted to lull town into complacency and so they killed one of their own. Now if someone can find ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE of that tactic happening on these forums, let me know. But I'd wager it's never happened, and personally I don't think any town-aligned player would come up with that theory, and--after being pressured on it--Oso now seems to have abandoned it.
NOW: THERE IS ONE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT CONCLUSION FROM THIS ANALYSIS. It is this: that
Parama was never successfully recruited
(unless there's another killer at work). Please keep this in mind for the future.
It's been correctly pointed out by many that looking at Parama is a helpful thing for town to do. I completely agree, but I think players are being far too quick to make something of his scum reads etc., even though in the third post of the game, he made it CLEAR that he KNEW would be analyzed after dying. So it is probably in town's best interest to realize that it's gonna be SUPER TRICKY to sort out the WIFOM!!
However, there is one interesting thing to note about Parama's behavior: When Oso was at the height of his pressure, Twisted unvoted. Less than 10 posts later, Parama was starting a Twisted wagon. This builds up and up, we all know what happened, and then the pressure's off of Twisted. And instantly Oso decides that he's "unpressurized enough to go on," even though none of the arguments against him had been answered. And I know he's busy with work, but too bad he couldn't step in to defend Twisted during that whole process.
Now, let's take a closer look at Parama's actual vote of Twisted:
Parama wrote:Twisted knows Oso won't flip scum, because Twisted's the mafia traitor.
And he wants to chain lynches to ensure a scum victory. Since he knows Oso is town, the second statement is there so he can push AGar tomorrow for a "valid" reason.
And the day before Parama's vote, Oso had this to say:
Oso wrote:We still have an unknown number of scum out there but there is at least one more mafia and the traitor.
Say the recruitment of Parama didn't go through the first day (a possibility Oso goes AT LENGTH to disprove in his posts). Say Oso knows this because he is scum. Day 2, scum try someone else-- it doesn't work. On Day 3, Oso says the traitor is still out there, and Parama responds with a vote on Twisted that mentions the mafia traitor. He says that Twisted is the traitor because he "knows" Oso won't flip scum. What if Parama is the traitor, deflecting blame from Oso, and then pointing out AGAIN that he's the traitor, because he "knows" Oso IS scum??
Again this is all SPECULATION, but I don't know as it's any different from Oso's speculation right
#577. It seems like a lot stronger case to me that this interaction is a signal, because it's the FIRST time Parama mentions the traitor since his flurry of posts in the beginning of the game, and it's explicitly saying that Twisted is the traitor because Oso is innocent i.e. Twisted is not the traitor because Oso is scum because Parama is the traitor. QED.
VOTE: Oso
*Add to this was the defeatist attitude that he had while the pressure was building on him, looks like a guilty conscience to me:
"I know you've blown the call on me but ,eh, trying to convince you of that is probably not going to work."
"This probably seals my lynch."
"To answer any doubts about my stance on any of the players at the moment"
*And in general there are lots of examples of him thinking from a scummy mindset and sharing that with the class, and posts like these:
Oso wrote:Look at the state of the game at that point and put yourself back in that day, take the Akira/Cecily flips out of your mind. If she gets any more flustered, there is a good chance the Akira wagon could transfer over to her. A town flip of Cecily strengthens any defense Akira gives the next day. Failing that, since Akira probably is going to be lynched at that point, Bub isn't the real driving force behind the lynch at that point. Parama is. Any accusations of "too easy, that must have been a bus" fall on Parama and perhaps DH as the wagon starter, but not on Bub, he has insured that he prominent at casting suspicions at Akira but he hasn't voted Akira, he is being courteous to Parama by 'holding off'.
*Or the time that he said Twisted being a confirmed townie means that he's a confirmed townie. When Twisted responded by saying "WTF are you talking about, I'm still suspicious of you" (I'm paraphrasing), he says:
Oso wrote:The second we get a town flip on either you or me, the other becomes almost unlynchable.
Not to mention that his gigantic Bub suspicion (which he'd already forgot about once when he decided to go after DH), he's now dropped again in favor of a case on me.
OH, and about his Bub case. The main reason it was so much weaker than Bub's case on him (and Oso really picked up the Bub case only after Bub started accusing him, very OMGUS) is that he singled out Bub as being responsible for the Cecily lynch. Notice how PARAMA didn't get called out for that, despite being 2x as responsible. Oso's case on Bub never made sense to me in that regard.
Then from his giant ISO #40 where he voted Bub, by his ISO #44 he's changed his mind ONLY because he's still alive and Bub would have killed him, and basically he drops the Bub suspicion. And now he's onto his next suspicion.
Personally I think we should hang him high right now.
I voted above in case you missed it in the awesomeness of the case.