Mini 1170: Nowhereville Mafia '11- Over!

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Night 2 has ended!

Espeonage

was killed! He was a

Tracker

.

Day 3 begins!

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Vote count D-3 #0

Not voting: Everybody

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is July 1st, Midnight Central.

[Espeonage]

BAH

[hiplop]

shit. I was roleblocked. 2 roleblock roles :\

[hiplop]

VOTE: panzer for now. My reasons are farily obvious, same as yesterday

[PJ.]

Are you saying you tried to "protect" esp?

[hiplop]

no, i visited you

[The Kool]

Wait, visited? I thought you said you were a jailkeeper?

[hiplop]

i am? visited just means you used your role on them

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: Kalofer
Why'd you visit Panzer?

[PJ.]

That explains why espeonage is dude, he's Mafia roleblocker.

I'm gonna claim now because it's lylo.

I'm the real Jailkeeper, I didn't wanna claim yesterday because I didn't wanna give scum more info.

Vote:Hiplop

I protected espeonage both nights

[SleepyKrew]

You are saying it's 5v3? Isn't that mylo?

[SleepyKrew]

So umm... Why's Esp dead if you Jailed him?

[CooLskins]

It is in fact mylo. We can still no lynch at this point.

I'm going to read panzer and hip in iso before I make a decision. Just be very careful with your votes.

[SleepyKrew]

VOTE: No Lynch
Well it's mylo...

[CooLskins]

^yes, but is that the most helpful move for the town? Ether panazer or hip is not telling the truth. This game does not have 2 jail keepers, a watcher, and a tracker in it. So if we no lynched then scum would just kill another townie and we would be left right where we are now. No lynching would just prolong our decision to one more day. And give us less leeway with our votes. No lynching is not the right move.

For some reason I am more inclined to believe panzers claim. Hip's claim was odd, especially since he was never sure of what his result meant (wasn't think very much on what his claim was). On the other hand it doesn't seem likely that scum would come out and fake claim a semi obscure role. Naturally hip could possibly just be the scum role blocker in which case the claim is just a town version of that.

I want to be careful with my vote, and thus I'm going to talk to bub before I vote at all.

@panzer any bread crumb for that claim?

-CooLDoG

[SleepyKrew]

UNVOTE:
Good point.
Since we're making mylo=lylo, should we massclaim?

[The Kool]

Panzer vs hip, I see. And I've already been suspicious of hip's claim.

I meant to work on a post last night, but I got kicked off. However, I did get to do some reviewing of the both of them and why I thought they were guilty. I don't have the time to recreate my case now, and my laziness kicks in at the prospect of doing the same work twice, so I'll just vote.

VOTE: hiplop I would FoS for now until I see more evidence, because I hate to be wrong and give the mafia that extra town vote they need to win, but I leave tomorrow. PLEASE, everyone else be careful with your votes!

Personally, I don't like massclaims, especially on a forum. The mafia have plenty of time to work up a good fake claim, especially if they wait until everyone else has claimed, and nobody trusts a VT claim anyway, which makes people more likely to lynch townies... And besides, I can't see how your 'we should claim' logic makes any sense. Do explain.

[SleepyKrew]

Massclaiming on lylo is supposed to make things clearer. Too bad the Mafia can lie.

[PJ.]

So umm... Why's Esp dead if you Jailed him?

Because Hiplop is a Roleblocker and targetted me last night.

[SleepyKrew]

Fair enough.

[hiplop]

panzer just claimed scum. I'm 100% sure on this. I claimed yesterday, to protect someone, as i thought they were town. He didn't counterclaim, and his only problem with my claim was that i did it without votes on me. Hes bullshitting to the max. He knew he couldn't kill me at night, as iwas going for him. So he killed espeonage, who was defending me/generally townie/good player, and knew that town might believe him over me.

Kool is against mass claims, votes with Panzer, has been scumy all game. The scum team is panzer/kool 100% sure. Why would i claim to protect someone, as scum? especially when this could happen.

VOTE: Panzer

[hiplop]

Also, coolskins. I knew what i meant, i just overthought it i suppose. Panzers been twisting my words all game, all i said was it meant SK didnt have a killing role. he just kept pushing to make me rage, so he could do this. If you guys believe him then *facepalm*

also, why would a townie, wait till lylo to counterclaim someone who would be obvi-scum if they were the actual role. Hes so obviously scum

[hiplop]

you didnt want to give scum info? if i wasn't the jailkeeper, that would make me scum from your perspective (guarenteed). As i would be lying. If you were the real jailkeeper, you would have claimed to kill me. Thats not giving scum info, thats killing scum

I know hes not an idiot town, he wouldnt do that. Guys, smarten up. We have the scumteam

[CooLskins]

I don't know about Panzer's claim. It seems odd that he would come strait out of the night and suddenly claim. But since this is MYLO, I want to get a mass claim going. Right now, out of the eight people that we have, four have already claimed (Kal and SK as VT, Hip and Panzer as Jailkeeper). Only Chronos, Kool, Elfen, and ourselves have not yet claimed. We're going to do this popcorn style.

The idea is this, a person claims and then names another person, who then claims and names yet another person. This goes until everybody has claimed, with the idea being that the scummiest people go first, so the scum have less information to go off of to base their claim. Since the consensus scummiest person seems to be Kool, he should go first. Kool, claim, and then name the next scummiest person who hasn't claimed yet.

-bub

[CooLskins]

While I'm waiting for Kool to claim, I'm going to go back and re-read from when Hiplop did his first wierd claim and see if Panzer's reactions are consistent with his claim.