Why would I vote/FOS him for saying he thinks I'm pro-town? He's right. But you have to be careful with people who do that, hence IGMEOY.petroleumjelly wrote:*[55] Turbo only gives Pablito a “IGMEOY” instead of a FoS or vote, while adding a “” . Further says that Pablito seems pro-town, but if he turns up scum, he must have been trying to ingratiate himself with Turbo.
Well, I didn't really see it as fishing. I mean if I said "townie" and meant it as "vanilla townie" then I would've been claiming then and there - pablito asking "did you just claim?" wasn't going to release any extra information.petroleumjelly wrote:*[81] Pablito says that Turbo’s play is “odd”, but not “scummy”. Says Turbo looks more like he is “spraying bullets”, and then finished up with that he hopes he did not misrepresent Turbo. Finishes the post by “fishing” at Turbo’s role…
*[82] And Turbo answers Pablito without pointing out Pablito was fishing.
Umm, yeah? I'm pro-town, so either pablito was townie or he was scum ingratiating. What's the problem with saying that?petroleumjelly wrote:*[120] Turbovolver says that Pablito is the only one who understands him. Of course, if Pablito is scum, he must have been trying to ingratiate himself.
Ranger linked pablito and I together, and snowmonkey claimed it was an inconsistency. I was addressing this point when I said that: it was a point dealing with me and Pablito.petroleumjelly wrote:*[127] Turbovolver tells Snowmonkey that either Turbo/Pablito could answer a question: why nobody else?
The HELL? I vote a lurker and FOS the other lurker. I mention my suspicions from yesterday. In total it came to 6 players, which is hardly "everybody but pablito". And only 2 players were voted or FOSed. This is one HUGE stretch of the word "practically".petroleumjelly wrote:*[282] Turbo practically votes or FoS’s everybody in the game except for Pablito.
Correct, I misremembered who said it.petroleumjelly wrote:*[319] Turbo says that Pablito mentioned one of Turbo’s traps earlier. Last I recall, it was me who pointed them out, not Pablito.
Funnily enough, we seem to agree on the list of things pablito has done that is suspicious. That is, NOTHING except for a dodgy lynch vote. The rest of your suspicions were all linking evidence, except possibly that tiny Sineish thing (point 6).petroleumjelly wrote:Turbovolver wrote:I'm not going to try to deny that pablito and I have been friendly this game, and if he's scum it doesn't look good for me. Thing is, I don't really see why you think he's scum. On my quick read through your long post, I didn't really see much indication of pablito's scumminess, just an argument of us being linked.
My thoughts on pablito is that he is similar to another Don Gaetano... generally agreeable and a "voice of reason"... a good way for scum to play but there's no real slip-ups to investigate that I've seen.
The way he put the second-to-lynch vote on needs looking at - I'll go check that out.
That looks like a pretty blatant defense of Pablito to me.
A) I voted one lurker and FOS'd the other, to try to get them to post. Sorry for wanting people I think are pro-town posting.petroleumjelly wrote:*[321] Suddenly, when asked top 3 pro-town players, Turbo gives me:
A.) Sineish (who was FoS’d by Turbo on the first post of D2)
B.) Don Gaetano (who was just recently voted by Turbo this D2)
C.) RangeroftheNorth / Pablito (who just yesterday had the most pro-town score according to Turbo, and now has suddenly dropped to a difficult tie for third even though Turbo has never voted or FoS’d Pablito, nor has shown any real suspicion towards Pablito until I drew a connection between Pablito and Turbovolver).
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B) I thought he was lurking too... that was a mistake on my part.
C) Yep, because I went back and noticed what he said when he put the second-to-last vote on snowmonkey. I'm also sorry here for never voting/FOSing someone I think is in my top three pro-town list
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PS: If my analysis of top three pro-town players is supposedly so inconsistent with my actions, why are you still after pablito and not me? I'd say THAT's inconsistent.
So yeah, I think petroleumjelly's case against pablito is pretty much crap, and there were some conclusions drawn there which I don't agree with.
Also, PJ has (as far as I can remember) never voted for Sotty7 or Stewie, and now he's calling them both innocent. OMG!!
Seriously though, that analysis was NOT objective in my eyes. Still happy with a lynch on any of my three.