Mafia Invictus ~ Game Over!

[Benmage]

Vote Fate

I got another scum too for after him.

[Benmage]

Benmage is town.

Flattery will get you everywhere.

[Benmage]

Is that list... towniest to scummiest? Or are the town mishmashed?

[Benmage]

Can u townies get back on Fate.

[Benmage]

I dont understand your question/accusation/conclusion.

You think KK is doing what by answering for DGB?

[Benmage]

Yeah, I have this horrible nagging problem of trying to understand things logically....Mybad, working on it.

[Benmage]

...understand things logically.

Wrong game.

Lol, QFT. Mafia is a gd tragedy these days.

[Benmage]

v/la till next Monday

I like fates invictus suggestion. Although if we miss invictus... scum have no night kill fear... but again using it as essentially a double lynch sounds beneficial.

Quil is confirmed town.

Sil needs rope.

Invictus count me on baby spice.

Only able to post and read from phone right now.... I hate phones.

[Benmage]

Are we really letting the scum know when they can get two townies for the price of one with the NK, while avoiding being invictus'ed themselves?

Its use is that of a second lynch... it is beneficial for the town. Even if its a twoforone.... that's one we don't mislynch.

[Benmage]

Are we really letting the scum know when they can get two townies for the price of one with the NK, while avoiding being invictus'ed themselves?

How can they avoid being Invictus'd themselves?

By not killing players that have invictus'ed them?

Yeah they can no kill... no problem for me.

They can't avoid invictus if its on scum.... and we are placiing it on people we'd lynch anyways..... its win win

[Benmage]

Everyone must agree... obviously.

I disagree to the claiming aspect.

[Benmage]

actually, I think all players with the invictus ability should claim. does everyone agree?

I'm sure the scum would like to know. Can we out all the power roles? I'm sure they're curious.

Fate's plan fails if people don't have invictuses.

No it doesn't... we are using invictus as a second lynch.

[Benmage]

Are we really letting the scum know when they can get two townies for the price of one with the NK, while avoiding being invictus'ed themselves?

Its use is that of a second lynch... it is beneficial for the town. Even if its a twoforone.... that's one we don't mislynch.

But Invictus is only for NK... not for lynches...

Duhhhh.... we lynch scum A. We invictus scum B... scum B was gonna be lynched anyways. So if scum B is town we avoid a mislynch... even tho night had double kills.

Now if scum B is scum... scum are screwed.

[Benmage]

Explain to me the flaw in using invictus as a second lynch please.

[Benmage]

Rodger. We unanimously decide on a target for all.

I'm more interested in hearing from Zach if he still opposes it.

[Benmage]

Hmmm... actually if the invictus choice targets scum, they'd have an interesting problem with how to deal with that.

Boom goes the dynamite!

[Benmage]

Nonono.... reading VIs is damn near impossible.

Are they devoid of logic because they're scum ... or are they simply that bad?

Baby spice needs to go asap. Consider it a policy lynch.

[Benmage]

I double taked on that too.... he means he's following our plan, so he doesn't oppose it.. via veee his invictus vote.

[Benmage]

Quils pretty much confirmed town in my book..

Body guard I believe doesn't intercept invictus kills... KK chose Hindu is my understanding.

I thought I had done this:

vote silavor
Invictus baby spice

[Benmage]

Ooph the speed of this game is gonna be tough while on vacation... haven't read yet, but sad to see he last VC and votes not on sil or baby spice.

[Benmage]

I still haven't really read the last few pgs, nor gotten a good look at this MoI wagon. We still have sufficient time.. I should hopefully!!!! Get some computer access tonight... slowing down/waiting for me would be greatly appreciated.

[Benmage]

Skimmity skim skim this PG... meh still not sold on MoI ... still need to read.

Nautys looking bad for illogical switches.

Still down for silvador or baby spice.

[Benmage]

Oh and stand-up paddle boarding is the shit.

[Benmage]

I gots a computer! I'ma see what I can doo

Moar Sil votes. Invic Baby.

Ellie's trying to climb inside ur ass Fate.. be careful of your past.

[Benmage]

IT WAS LULZTIMESTAMPZ.
Offspy wagon minus dead is duplic, Quil, Ben, Magna, Baby, Illum.
Ben is town, Quil is town. Duplic, Magna, Baby, Illum...ohblehwhatever
Oh fine fate, virtual proxy.

Idno about the strength of this.. rvs wagon.. zoomed through... Scum could be on off.. ehh, weak, it went too quickly. Let me talk another glance at it.

Body guard I believe doesn't intercept invictus kills... KK chose Hindu is my understanding.

Actually they do... or that's how I understand it. Vi had to specify what happens when you redirect 'primary' kills, so I assume that means directing non-primary kills has to be possible.

Ahh looks like I was mistaken.. wording.

Waiting for posts with meaning from Ban, his reaction to the Spy lynch was not good at all and had no real substance.

Did I even react to it? Oh right, I was overjoyed... ah good times... I can understand why you would think it wasn't good, but it hardly lacked substance. I was clearly ok with it. Would I have unvoted if I had the chance when he was at L-1, probably... Even I wouldn't willingly participate in his hanging without some real reason behind it, but I'm hardly loosing sleep over it...

How are you hardly upset about losing Spy... a seriously good scummer.. on bullshit rvs crap. And then give scum a free kill.. absurd.

Balance is directed around how many times town can mislynch before losing.
-We wasted one on Spy.. Are u fucking kidding me.
--We could've polcy'd Baby, and be all smiles.

the problem is you killed KK last night. KK outed his invictus target in thread, which told you he was a great kill with no risk to you or your buddies blah blah blah, speculation on my part so lets move to the juicy bit. Unfortunately, you can't actually bank on that happening everyday. With KK dead, somebody would tie it to his invictus claim and eventually everyone would stay moot on the topic. Which means future kills run the risk of possibly taking you out with it. So by issuing this plan you not only make everyone reveal their invictus, but also get to help control who that person is. Not only warning you of dangers, but letting you skirt them.

Yes. I noticed this issue with invictus, and forgot to verbalize when agreeing to the invictus strategy laid out by Fate. Because using it as a double lynch effective traps scum.. and would kill undesirables anyways.

But alas, not everyone has agreed to it...and as I catchup with my skimming.. I'm pretty sure theres paranoia that scum have a way to avoid this plan.

That SAID

We shouldn't be screaming in thread who are invictus targets are.. otherwise scum will have no NK fear as seen with the KK shot last night.
--FURTHER CONFIRMING why Quil and now Gamma is conftown in my book.

Fate vs. Korlash

My two favorite players

There's no reason to live.

LET'S ALL BE FRIEEEEEENDS GUYS.
and kill other people.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FRIENDS DO

Scum

because statistically scum are the founders of huge plans like this... Obviously this is a fake statistic but it hasn't let me down yet... I could go into all the reasons why I think the plan was made by scum, but ultimately *short of my previously mentioned belief* I would say timing is a factor. He had that thing ready coming into the day... you know, like it was discussed and planned out by a group last night! *slams fist down*

I know, doesn't sound vastly convincing. But we all have our own things that make us suspect people. And this is one of those things for me...

Ehhh..the timing thing is interesting.

Although breaking games I dont see as a scum statistic.

The first thing that comes to mind is SAIII... That games setup was deemed broken by the end, by a Co-Mod Vi!.

{danceHello, Gut, Quilford, silavor} <-- I'm thinking that this is a good starting group to look for scum in.

Since KK bit the bullet over so many so called “Awesome Players” I assume he was pretty spot on with this list.

Gut and Silavor are more or less sure scum.

KK’s parting comments about Invicting Quilford also make me lean to Quil Town

Interesting... thanks for calling me awesome.

Why 7 more pages and Silavor aint dead..weird.

Anyway I’ve delivered you a bunch of scum – Nautlius, Gut, Silavor, possibly danceHello. Get to work people, I’ve done the heavy lifting.

Solid list. Needs BS.

and whaaaaaaat's wrong with that?
whatever, enough people in the game can read me.

Scum

Post 322..and Ban in general seems like a broken record with this Fate premade strategy. While also calling Fate a future thing to investigate... We get it. You said your peace. Repeating the same thing ova and over again.. aint making it sound stronger.

Its a jackel, jackel, jackel.... zzzzzz

The tone of MoI's post seems a lot different from [redacted].

-inHim

This is fucking useless

Having a computer is fun! I can use quotes... still trudging.

[Benmage]

Actually I'ma see if I can get a quick little workout.. the gym here aint too bad for a hotel.

[Benmage]

I want to hear whyssss from those who arent on the two lead wagons.

[Benmage]

This is a rushed game.. 7 day deadlines.. if you're going on 2 days with out checking in..something aint adding up. Thats almost like missing a week in a standard 3 week deadline.

I'm looking at silavor fyi.

[Benmage]

Pretty sure Fates invictus plan is off the table as it wasn't agreed by all.

[Benmage]

I don't agree with dgbs out of the blue pressure of DH.

Did you think DH was strategically not posting?

How are you so confident with silavor????? And I'm not checking now.. but have you always seen him town?
Lets review:
-horrendous hammer
-instantly puts blame on Fate.
-has in my opinion been acting or pushing a very clueless like style of play I.e. newbcard
(For reference I did a similar shitty hammer as scum in newbie 720... I was cop'd for it... the hammer, and play is quite comparable. I'm calling silavor newbscum.)
-now we have lurksville

Are you kidding me!?! How can anyone view silavor as town??

[Benmage]

DGB, I'm sorry but I can't fathom your vote having any use.

I do not forded any mass agreement and huge vote switch onto DH.... its just not gonna happen... and at very least, most definitely not today!

Didn't you also dislike baby... if you think MoI and silavor (which I'm still boggling at) are town... then vote baby spice... someone people could get behind.

[Benmage]

Forded = forsee, damn phones

[Benmage]

Regardless, his hydra activation excuse is total crap.

Yes I concede if that's his reasoning for not posting ... then that is indeed utter horseshit.

[Benmage]

I don't like post 515... trying to have dgb say dh is his scummiest for not posting is bleh.

That said... dgbs vote is obvious shit.

[Benmage]

Ohhhh dgb was on baby

Anywhose I still think the DH attempt is misplaced for today.

Silavor....... silavor..... silavor???

Zzz lynch the lurking scum

[Benmage]

Silavor seems to have flaked for what it's worth. (I'm in another ongoing game with him and he hasn't posted anywhere since posting here on Wednesday.)

So I'm not sure I buy strategic lurking as an argument. Everything else raised on him is valid though.

Ooooph, you idiot benmage! That's what I get for playing on a phone.

[Benmage]

Word on the wagon analysis .... make up for yesterday.

[Benmage]

In fact, you still haven't even confirmed your case on me.

The no case on me spiel is weak.

DGB's attack is weak, but the reasoning should be evident.

It is now, apparently because you reacted as scum. (I believe thats it)

[Benmage]

Hey Silavor

- Give me the summary of the reasons you are voting for me. Stat. I'd really like to see what reasons you have for me being scummy as you just vote for my while distancing from Nautilus.

I'd love to see this too.

[Benmage]

Everything that I've presented to her is complete fact. She voted me for not believing that Sera and I had real life problems and couldn't really get into this game. Is that true or not? That's not a subjective view; it really happened. So we can assume that because she voted me, she found it the scummiest thing in the game so far. I asked her to confirm that reasoning.

The whole real life thing was something I meant to comment on.. Alas being on vacation and reading/posting 99% from a phone hinders my abilities.

-RL happens. PERIOD. DGB. It is a

BOLD

claim to call DH strategically lurking.. and to continue that claim when he's made it abundantly clear RL is fucking him.... The real life claim as some sort of PTW scum coverup is hugely frowned upon on this site, and I do not see DH doing that at all.

I have many examples of RL fucking me.. being semi disheartened/uninterested in a game... while maintaining a uptodate presence in others. Often being 15 pgs behind makes me reluctant to sit down and get my hands dirty.

So we can assume that because she voted me, she found it the scummiest thing in the game so far. I asked her to confirm that reasoning.

Nah thats a horrible assumption.

I almost never vote who I think is scummiest. I vote who I think is scummy, and who I think I can get to the noose.

But there's other reasoning for votes... pressure... and as potentially seen here.. reaction testing?

And her reply to all of this is to say that I'm "OMGUS"ing her. Other than the fact that I said she completely overreacted, where is the suspicion on her, Benmage?

I have called her attacks weak.

[Benmage]

DH, I just said I've done that shit numerous times...

You want to question me on it?

[Benmage]

Errr I meant that at dgb not dh.

[Benmage]

Theres clearly scum on the MoI wagon.

But Baby Spice was sitting around doing nothing.. till I told her otherwise.

New scum voting strategy is to spread their votes around. Babys was sitting there useless. Baby is scum.

[Benmage]

Scum hopped on the momentum of the MoI wagon.

It stalled and they went .

VCA will be key.

I'll be home soon.

[Benmage]

I don't understand any of that.

[Benmage]

Nacho, can you bullet for me the case on MoI please.

[Benmage]

Nacho, can you bullet for me the case on MoI please.

[Benmage]

Damn phones.

Vitamin, is you're beef with MoI based mainly on Meta alone? That is to say.... he is more methodical as town, while as scum he is arrogant. And you are accusing him of his scummy arrogance?
-is that the main gist of it, or is there more?

Also, explain to me what scum Fate looks like.

[Benmage]

I know the deadline is drawing real close.. but I still don't know the basis behind half the votes on MoI, or the "main "case in general.

I'm in the airport for home today.... but with work tomorrow, and time running out... I'd like to atleast have a better grasp why MoI will likely see the noose.

I want people to flush out their thought process beforehand before trying to take credit later... or trying to write it off.

There's decent segments of the game unread or barely skimmed by me. So sorry if I'm being a little repetitive here.

[Benmage]

Don't see it myself, but I don't mind sheeping Fate et al. here.

Unvote, vote: MoI

Gut, if you think silavor is scum, why are you more inclined to simply invictus him and sheep fate...

The more effective way of killing scum reads, would be the noose.

[Benmage]

The tone of MoI's post seems a lot different from [redacted].

-inHim

voteMOI

Been meaning to do that ever since I pointed it out. So there.


:tothebatcave:

-inHim

Is there anything more to you're MoI vote other than apparently Meta from an ongoing game....??

What is your view on silavor?

[Benmage]

Zach and DGB need to commit to a main wagon. I dont care if they dont like either one..not acting is essentially acting.

Pick the lesser of 2 evils.. like presidential voting.. and vote.

[Benmage]

Gamma Get on SILA! The MoI wagon can't fathomable-ly be worse...

Fate- Rage, meta. (Is there more?)
Tarhalindur- Zero reasoning/Fate Sheep...Goes on to post 424, accuses MoI of a scum reaction.
VitaminR- Meta.
silavor- NO EXPLANATION TALKS ABOUT BABY THEN VOTES MoI SEEEE
danceHello -Meta from an ONGOING game!!
Gut -Fate sheep, DESPITE thinking Sila scum.
Gammagooey- W/E is conftown willing to vote Sila... vote Sila!
Nautilius- NO explanation. Sheeps Fate. Jokes. Then actually tells MoI shes had time to defend herself... DEFEND FROM WHAT??

Are u guys fucking kidding me... This couldn't be a worse lynch.

Then the opposing option is SILA!!! And I have to pull teeth here...wow....

[Benmage]

Fate...if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Zzzzz

GAMMA

Seriously.. do not replace out. Replacements are a bitch to the game.. a bitch to the mod.

Ignore Fate. Let him Rage in a corner by himself.

The speedhammer..no claim.. obviously we have a list of PRs.. just illogical.

Nonetheless YOU ARE TOWN GAMMA. You can't go.

[Benmage]

SPAM!

MoI

, you can't be so dead on KK's scum list.

And question dance's death.

And not look at who he thought was scum.

It was you alone chief... And gamma?? GAMMA?? U kidding me?!?!?

Its GUT!

He's some kscope/elmo/combo or suck.

Maybe scum are killing for alternative reasons.. U KNO EM? Cuz I do. Its damn obvious.

*****The second NK worked the way we wanted it.

Todays gonna require a tougher look.

[Benmage]

Track results are fucking useless, if he didn't have a GUILTY there was no point in him claiming.

Are you going to work WITH me this game or not Benmage?

Gamma can do whatever the fuck he wants. His inability to be humbled or LISTEN to other people's reads after being so COMPLETELY WRONG isn't needed in this fucking town anyway.

I'm jsut moving at a slower pace right now.

Logic is still my friend.

You speedhammered SpyreX essentially.. And speedhammered Sila, while calling him town.. that raises eyebrows. That said I THINK UR TOWN.

And our invictus plan worked... cause that chic BS is unreadable.. the last time i tried I called her town and she was scum. Her death was a necessary evil that saved us from a mislynch.

Why Illuminati?

[Benmage]

Fate, also... You willingly claimed condemning town.

Are reinforcing that, while raging today about MoI..

Nothings changed in relation to MoI... Why weren't u raging to finish MoI off when he was L-1??

[Benmage]

Fate silavor, had to die.

A Claim mighta saved him tho. I don't know... I hate claims to save scummy people... I'd probably still had pushed his death. He had 1 post in like 4 days. Horrendous. Explained nothing. Forced the newbcard. Better yesterday, then lylo.

[Benmage]

I NEVER would've hammered silavor if I didn't think I was going to get a MoI lynch the next day.

Alright well.

Hold on.

[Benmage]

Thats true.. he woulda made a good invictus target.

One I'm unsure who to do today.

Why Illuminati? I remember DGB screaming about him.. haven't looked hard/ dont really remember.

[Benmage]

Oh NVM...

[Benmage]

Where's the case on Vitamin again?

Can we start posting votes with Reason.

ZACH

- explain gut. Just for the record.

[Benmage]

Ah right, I recall that.

[Benmage]

Actually thats a great call.

I can't think of a better person than Gut to invictus.

Invictus Gut

[Benmage]

Where's the case on Vitamin again?

Can we start posting votes with Reason.

ZACH- explain gut. Just for the record.

Pretty much in my ISO, he knows what it is.

Why no call out on Gamma's vote?

Gamma is conftown in my book. And Vitamin looked protwn on pg 27.

Vote Gut

Invictus Nautilus.

I'd agree these would be my top 2 for today.

[Benmage]

Nautilius is TOWN by the way.

TOWN

No way. See in my book. One of you and Nautilus is scum.

ANd I got you as town right now.

[Benmage]

At emphasized: Oh really now?

- Benmage was really, really scum even before he made that post I quoted above.

-U dont see it?

-Do explain.

[Benmage]

- BabySpice dying removes a LOT of my objections to using Invictus as second lynch. I'll support today.

I thought your objections were mod related.....

[Benmage]

What is the case on Gamma? Doesn't the KK Invictus thing make him likely town?

Oh, and I forgot, but

Invictus: Gut

.

Yeah, he's town.

And I agree with fate, that if baby was alive today we'd be mislynching baby.

[Benmage]

I'm interested in seeing how tar is going to pull his pants back up, but alas that'll wait for tomorrow.

[Benmage]

If it's meta null, that means it's null. This isn't hard.

Question for you, Duplicity: if you think I've been deliberately hiding my hydraness for some scummy reason, then why would I reveal it?

What's the town reasoning for revealing it?

Explain to me what you believe is the defining differences in your scum and town games

[Benmage]

I want Tar to return before any hammering too.... his scum stock is flying through the roof

Gut ought to claim too.

[Benmage]

This will take more than a phone to answer.

Tar, gamma is town because KK said in thread he was invictus-ing Gamma..... KK flipped town. Scum had no way to tell KK was lying therefore they went with the safest logical way to elude invictus and shot KK.... its so simple I am dumbfounded by you're logic.

[Benmage]

Yes gamma could be 3rd party but I still read that slot town.

AND THERE IS ZERO SCUM LOGIC TO RISK LOSING ONE OF THEIR OWN!!!! Gamma isnt scum period.

[Benmage]

Fate, what's you're potential scum team right now?

[Benmage]

I'm trying todo some mental PoE here....

Town :
Me
gamma
fate
Ban
dgb
Vitamin

Leftover
Illuminati
tar
Nautilus
duplicity
Gut
MoI

[Benmage]

Zach leftover too

[Benmage]

Taking gut, tar, and Nautilus off the list....

Forces the scumteam if 4 tobe
MoI
Zach
illuminate
duplicity

I don't think its that simple.

I can't write those other 3 off.

Something is amiss.

Has gut claimed?

[Benmage]

unvote

still busy

[Benmage]

Oh fuck me... Hindu bodgy guarded quil... its so simple... I keep neglecting bodyguard stops invictus kills.

Fyi a scum doc wouldn't.

And a bpv... would show no kill despite KK flipping with invictus ... and everyone would go, oh KK invictusd quil....lynch quil.


WELL THEN. Time to reexamine gamma when I get the chance.

[Benmage]

Duplicity I don't know what you asking from me on the votes I analyzed on MoI ... I was looking for a case and came up wit that. I wanted to analysis the timing of the votes for momentum purposes... I haven't gotten to that.

[Benmage]

Tar a chain reaction kill meant invictus went through.... so there was no quil doc or quil bpv.

[Benmage]

Gut, trying to understand why people do things will allude you everygame.

If Hindu didn't Bguard him then KK lied... and Gamma is back to conftown.

What's ur view on gamma?

Also, I do not want a hammer till I can access a computer and figure some shit out.

[Benmage]

Tar a chain reaction kill meant invictus went through.... so there was no quil doc or quil bpv.

In case you forgot, bodyguard resolves before all other protective abilities (I should know, it's relevant to me so I checked) and my operating assumption is that Hinduragi bodyguarded Quilford N1 (in which case the kill was redirected before Bulletproof or Doctor had a chance to resolve).

Considering that you've also come to the conclusion that Hinduragi bodyguarded Quilford N1, it shouldn't be hard to figure out this line of reasoning.

But instead you keep clinging to your desperate little attempts to fend off my glorious ironclad logic that shows how Gamma's slot is not confirmed. And that's because you're either being incredibly stupid as town or flailing scum trying to preserve your buddy's alibi.

This is me not ruling out bodyguard, but ruling out vest or doc.

[Benmage]

I like tars idea of having a range of 2-3 players to invictus.

[Benmage]

Tar tar tar.... underline only to make me look bad...spin everything ... God I need a computer.

I was arguing gamma conftown with KK lying... but that was under the forgetfulness of the body guard chance/likelihood from Hindu.

[Benmage]

Tar, despite being away for 6 days I still managed to be involved in every facet of the game. Name one key thing I missed.

I logically deduced that scum wouldn't kill KK despite being bpv or doc... because KK would flip with invictus ... there would be no chain reaction ... and we'd lynch quil.

Bpv and doc are out... Body guard is still entirely viable.. I've conceded this point.

[Benmage]

I also find it incredibly comical you're main accusation against me... but we don't needs to delve there early just yet.

No hammering yet.

[Benmage]

First glance and the computer still looks retarded.

MoI I derailed for ya before... tar might want to hang today instead of you... no need to rush.

All should have 2-3 invictus

invictus, gut Nautilus, Tar

[Benmage]

Tar lord of the misrepresent.

[Benmage]

Wtf is going on... uhm I have a wedding today....maybe could post late later tonight. If not 100% tomorrow for sure.

[Benmage]

Uhhhh wtf.

Are we even bothering with claims?

Fate how are u possibly not voting MoI ...

Is there a Zach case? ... bulletable? Ill look... but time is killer for me right now.

[Benmage]

vote tarhindular

self vote whambulance. Go fuck urself.

I really gotta go now.. ill hopefully make the effort tonight to get a grasp on things... but fuck this douchebaggery.

[Benmage]

<<<<<< loves that having a weekend life = scum.

[Benmage]

Yesterdays wedding included an afterparty and an after after party...lol myb.. I'm home. Expect me to read and post in the next couple of hours.

[Benmage]

I apologize.. I endedup seeing Harry potter.. and a Dance of Dragons is so fucking good.

I promise to catch-up tomorrow.

And will likely hammer in the evening... so get yer last thoughts down.

[Benmage]

vote MoI

I like him less than Zach..

Tho Zach is L-2 now with gamma's switch?

I'll hammer Zach if he goes back to L-1... the hour is near.

[Benmage]

I'll be around for a couple more hours...since any real content i want to put forth in this game regards Tars misstatements I have very little desire to put down A Dance of Dragons right now and read here...soooory.

This MoI distraction can't go to endgame.

The only strike I recall about Zach...is not recalling much.

[Benmage]

Too bad you don't want to actually lynch scum like Gut Benmage ....

I dont want gut lynch.......

Get him to L-1... I'd take him over u2 anyday.

But I can't vote myself in the presidential election... and become president. So I chose the lesser of 2 evils... as I am doing here.

Ur a lylo liability...right?

I advocate my own lynches when town and in such situations.

[Benmage]

unvote Vote Gut

L-2

[Benmage]

I've got this dinner business thing tonight and a rugby tourny tomorrow. I'd like to post tonight for sure after the dinner as I wont obviously be partying hard.

Soooo... stay tuned.

[Benmage]

Right well I guess I can't keep putting mafiascum on the back buerner.. A dance of dragons is so fucking great.

Anywhose. I'll start now.. relooking through illuminati/amrun...hyrda replaced ..

I'd like to get to all tars shenanigans but thats a heavy load. We'll see how much I can do.

[Benmage]

Lets look at the votes as the first 3 people are town. Hoorah.

skim skim skim... lol fate iso is useless

VOTE: illuminati

But this followed another one of DGB’s unreadable things.

Gamma:
Okay well here is the vote.the vote.

Then there’s this:
old news.

This big case isn't quite as good as the bolding may have you believe. But all in all.. not bad:
Here
A little more here too

DGB:

tar claim last.

Tar claimed already.

VOTE: Illuminati

Right illum scum with gut and zach. Okay.

I’ll have to re-read the last 5ish pages at a much slower pace to understands DGB’s computing.

Nauty:

LOL
SCUM
DIE

VOTE:AMRUN

Useless scum nautilus. I'm fine to lynch here.

Is there a quick glaring synopsis or bullet case that could be easily made to restate or rephrase the wrongs of Illuminati.

I got enough from Gamma..

Fate/Nauty whys from u2?

Or maybe whys from those who aren’t voting him and don’t see him as scum.

Zach, Ban, Tar.

[Benmage]

OR IS IT BLATANT SDISTANCING?

Major respect for having the balls to post after being confirmed caught lying scum though.

OOO whats this?

[Benmage]

I offer no explanation as to why my predecessor lied about their targets; all I know is what my PM is, which is a town wincon. I haven't read The Illuminati nor do I ever intend to.

WHAT! god(reading non isos now lol)

[Benmage]

Hey, hey man, I have other games besides this one man.

Since Illuminati never got back to me I'll use that question again and ask for a few odd reads or reasonings for things.

Hmmm, what did you want me to do? Sorry, I must have missed it. Also, to the Zachrulez question:

And a Zachrulez wagon would not be out of the question either.

Unvote
Vote: Zachrulez

Also,

Invictus 1: MoI

Invictus 2(if MoI is lynched): Duplicity

Hey look at that, Amrun is admitting to having Fate targeted with Invictus while Illuminat is advocating different invictus targets.

Let's not miss the fact that Duplicity flipped with the Invictus ability and that Dancehello and Fate seem like pretty good town targets to hit with the ability.

Ahhh hmmm

Alrighty

vote Amrun/Illuminati

Illum lied about targets and invictus'd obv townfate...thats a harsh way to get caught.

TAR

bullet for me your hate, so that when I look back I know what specifically you dislike.

[Benmage]

I have only invictus. I'm reading things.

[Benmage]

Some tedious work is getting done. I'm retiring for the evening now tho.

[Benmage]

Scumteam is Ban and Tar...Tar keeps waiting for 1 more to jump on me.

[Benmage]

I clocked out of this game.

You mislynch me here.. the game ends. GJ.

I was working on BS to Tar.. then this crap.

Well done in lylo PR claim... Why wouldnt I had claimed Doc if I was the doc??

Target one under some of the most suspicion.

GJ playing it cool Tar.

[Benmage]

Yeah, can't blame tar. That was the whole point of the gamble. I actually had a half composed counter post. But I still needed the other half, and it would've been a long day wig only really Nautilus as a possible final mislynch.

This gamble skyrocketed ban to auto town.

Was easier and a lot less work. And I was pretty damn certain the body guard flip would have fate getting invictusd.

All in all fun game. Love scum daytalk. That ability is amazing.

Dup did buddy me a bit too much, but half the things tar accused me of I thought were baseless (namely standing on the side)

MoI ..teehee. sorry.