Mass Effect Mafia (Draw)

xRECKONERx · Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:33 pm

Vote: Silent Wraith

Hiraki · Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:40 pm

I am so useless in this game.

Vote: Silent Wraith

Nero Cain · Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:46 pm

Nero Cain wrote:Hiraki/
Wraith scum book it!!!

vote:GW

vote:Wraith

got a pretty interesting night action too.

Toogeloo · Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:21 pm

Nero Cain wrote:got a pretty interesting night action too.

Do share...

In fact, we are at -1, so we may all want to share, before someone hammers. (May not be a bad idea to remove a vote just until everyone can chime in).

I may not have gotten a gift on N1, but PV came through and gifted me last night. There are 5 ways that I can see that a kill didn't happen last night.

1) Amrun/Sathoris blocked the kill.
2) Silent Wraith protected the kill.
3) PV's gift from Night 1 was Bulletproof and scum hit that player.
4) Hiraki redirected the kill onto either Silent Wraith or a player that had BP gift from PV.
5) Scum did not send in a kill.

I think 2 and 4 are the least likely to have happened since 2 means that mafia either shot Silent Wraith (why?) or that Amrun is lying about Roleblocking Silent Wraith (again... why?).

I still maintain that jason is town, and given PV's gift to me, and the way he went about Day 2's gift claim, I believe he is Town as well. Rhinox's desire to possibly govern a scum yesterday makes him look awful, but I doubt that scum would paint that big a target on themselves, or even ask for town approval. Remaining Scum lies in Reck, Nero, Hiraki, or Rhinox in my opinion. With as fast as yesterday went, and leaving pretty much only Day 1 to work with for interactions, I would like us to try to slow down a titch today to work out reads.

I would like to know specifically what Nero and Hiraki did last night myself.

Silent Wraith · Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sun Jul 31, 2011 7:32 pm

What's the case? Amrun blocked me? I'm acutally not sure why most of you are voting me, and I'd like to hear it. Particularly since Reck's been trolling most of this game of this game. I protected Toog last night.

Hiraki · Post Post #730 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:48 am

Useless equates to still not doing anything.

Bus driving is pro-scum in most scenarios.

Hiraki · Post Post #731 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:49 am

Unvote

Nero Cain · Post Post #732 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:43 am

I targeted Hiraki last night and got no result (literally a pm stating no result) and I dunno if that means he went no where, I was the one actually blocked or what. If he went nowhere then that means #4 in your list a no kill scenarios is wrong.

Rhinox · Post Post #733 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:16 am

toog wrote:5) Scum did not send in a kill.

This doesn't seem very smart for scum in this situation so I'm not considering it.

I don't have a good handle on this game at the moment so I might have to go back and reread a bit.

Sovereign · Post Post #734 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:37 am

Mass Effect Mafia

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Suspicion Matrix

3.1

Silent Wraith [3] - Amrun, xRECKONERx, Nero Cain

Not Voting–

Rhinox, PeregrineV, Toogeloo, Silent Wraith, JasonT1981, Hiraki

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Amrun · Post Post #735 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:47 am

Well, that's a quick little catch up.

No lie it will take me a WHILE to have time to catch up. Some posts today have been enlightening, though.

How likely is it that Toogeloo was targetted?

Nero Cain, I definitely did not block you. Scum could still have an RB, though, I guess. I'm confused by your post.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #736 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:55 am

Silent Wraith wrote:What's the case? Amrun blocked me? I'm acutally not sure why most of you are voting me, and I'd like to hear it. Particularly since Reck's been trolling most of this game of this game. I protected Toog last night.

Oh, did you?

Because Toog watched himself and I'm pretty sure he'd know if you did this.

bzzzzzzzzzzt

Hiraki · Post Post #737 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:11 am

Nero Cain wrote:I targeted Hiraki last night and got no result (literally a pm stating no result) and I dunno if that means he went no where, I was the one actually blocked or what. If he went nowhere then that means #4 in your list a no kill scenarios is wrong.

Like Amrun, I'm confused.

Could you explain this? Did you get that I didn't do anything or that you were not able to track me, per se.

Toogeloo · Post Post #738 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:24 am

xRECKONERx wrote:
Silent Wraith wrote:What's the case? Amrun blocked me? I'm acutally not sure why most of you are voting me, and I'd like to hear it. Particularly since Reck's been trolling most of this game of this game. I protected Toog last night.

Oh, did you?

Because Toog watched himself and I'm pretty sure he'd know if you did this.

bzzzzzzzzzzt

This is correct.

Watched myself last night, and I only had 2 visitors. Reck, who neighbored me, and PeregrineV, who gifted me.

Amrun · Post Post #739 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:27 am

Okay then this is easy mode.

Lynch sw gogogo

xRECKONERx · Post Post #740 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:29 am

A Silent Wraith scumflip confirms me as town by the way.

I would've told my scumteam what Toog was doing with his action last night and thus SW wouldn't have claimed he protected him.

Good to know.

Toogeloo · Post Post #741 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:35 am

meh... that's WIFOMable really. You could have known saving Silent Wraith was a lost cause and had him state he protected me so you could set yourself up for the end.

Toogeloo · Post Post #742 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:39 am

At any rate.

Vote: Silent Wraith

We haven't had jason pop in yet, and Rhinox is still rereading, but I still maintain my list from before.

Jason, Peregrine, and Amrun are all pretty much obvtown. Final scum(s) are in Hiraki, Nero, Reck, and Rhinox.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #743 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:42 am

How would I have known it was a lost cause BEFORE someone claimed the action?

This pretty much confirms me as town, and it also confirms Toogeloo & Amrun as town, really, if Wraith flips scum. Unless there's a superbus going on from Toog or Amrun... (which I guess could be the whole WIFOM bit just like Toog just said) but honestly let's go on Occam's Razor here.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #744 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:45 am

Amrun, yes, obvtown.

explain again how jason is obvtown after vigging OBVTOWN D1?

And no, if you think I'm scum at this point, you're crazy.

N1: I neighborize SpyreX, he tells me he's bussed himself with someone, and he ends up dying. It's just too odd (especially since he didn't tell me who he bussed with)
N2: I neighborize you. You inform me you're going to be watching yourself. Scum fakeclaims a protection on you after I already know that you watched yourself. And you're calling that, what, a bus? A bus that I setup last night with SW + who? A bus that I setup that relies entirely on a day claim that didn't happen until after day started? A bus that would require me to pull off an intricate, triple-layered bus on the HYPOTHETICAL off-chance someone got blocked?

No.

Toogeloo · Post Post #745 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:50 am

xRECKONERx wrote:How would I have known it was a lost cause BEFORE someone claimed the action?

If scum have day talk, you could have told Silent Wraith your plan to have him claim a protect on me after he already had damning evidence against him from the Roleblock.

We can worry about this later though.

jason is obvtown to me. His interactions on Day 1 screamed town on town, fueled by GhostWriter scum in the background. jason admitting to using his vig on nintendo the next day also gives me an apologetic town vibe. You guys can take whatever you want from it, but I like jason as town.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #746 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:52 am

UH YES
LEMME THINK

THE 1-SHOT VIGILANTE KILLS A TOWNIE (who several people were screaming at to NOT DO) AND THEN CLAIMS IT
HOW BRILLIANTLY PROTOWN

Amrun · Post Post #747 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:03 am

Guys don't hate me but I decided I will only read enough to pick an action for tonight and leave off properly reading until I see if I survive the night.

Hiraki · Post Post #748 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:20 am

How is PeregrineV obvtown?

Rhinox · Post Post #749 (ISO) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:54 am

Toogeloo wrote:
xRECKONERx wrote:
Silent Wraith wrote:What's the case? Amrun blocked me? I'm acutally not sure why most of you are voting me, and I'd like to hear it. Particularly since Reck's been trolling most of this game of this game. I protected Toog last night.

Oh, did you?

Because Toog watched himself and I'm pretty sure he'd know if you did this.

bzzzzzzzzzzt

This is correct.

Watched myself last night, and I only had 2 visitors. Reck, who neighbored me, and PeregrineV, who gifted me.

This doesn't prove SW is scum anymore than the lack of a kill does, as Amrun has already claimed blocking SW. So there's really nothing to be excited about by toog not seeing SW target him. But we are running out of possible explainations so unless someone is BP and thinks they drew the nk, seems like SW has to be the lynch.