Open 323: Murder at Happy Sunshine Hospital (Scum win!)

[teamsleep]

But no, seriously, someone needs to explain his case to me.

[DarthYoshi]

Your vote on me is for abysmal reasons, especially for LyLo. Your vote also makes it look like you're trying to protect someone, most likely Q. You have done a laudable job of floating underneath the town's collective radar for the last few game days. Finally, if you needed my case explained to you again, why didn't you just say so the first time?

What part of that don't you get?

[DarthYoshi]

And FTR, the last eight or so posts of NS's ISO are collectively fluff. You owe us some content, man.

[Amrun]

VC5.1

Medical Fact:

When you blush, your stomach lining also reddens.

(1) Quaroath - silavor
(1) DarthYoshi - teamsleep
(0) silavor -
(0) Nobody Special -
(0) teamsleep


Not Voting: Quaroath, DarthYoshi, Nobody Special

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch or no lynch.

V/LA:

Spoiler: Vote History

Quaroath -
DarthYoshi -
silavor - Quaroath
Nobody Special -
teamsleep - DarthYoshi

[DarthYoshi]

V/LA through Wednesday.

Sorry for the frequent V/LA's, this should be the last for the duration of the game. If I'm lucky, this V/LA should be more limited access than true no access.

[Quaroath]

TS's vote of me is clutch--it says a TON. First, I can't imagine a townie literally risking the entire game on the chance that a dead VT was right. But second, HL WAS PUSHING A Q LYNCH YESTERDAY, NOT MY LYNCH. If TS is really going to sheep HL, then voting Q would have been the obv play. Instead, his vote of me looks like trying to create a counter-wagon. TS says in his first LyLo post that he's going to re-read, and then just sheeps instead. That look like a pro-town work ethic to you?

Okay. Now that I am posting, everyone in the game has posted at least once within the last, what, 18 hours or so, since Silavor's Q vote, and there was not a quicklynch. Ergo, I believe my initial hypothesis was correct in that either Q or Sil is scum--if both were town, we'd likely have seen the scumteam quickhammer.

Next--if TS is scum, then he almost certainly has to be scum with Q, otherwise he would have voted Q and waited for his buddy to quickhammer.

Finally--Q is using what little time he has right now to justify his own play, and NOT to scumhunt. This is scummy.

I think Sil is right and we are looking at a Q/TS scumteam. Part of me wants to lynch TS first, since is scumflip would seriously be the nail in the coffin for Q, whereas I guess a Q scumflip still leaves open the possibility of a different partner--likely NS, as I'm still not sure Sil was pulling off a double-bus. In my experience, scumbuddies usually bus each other one at a time.

So, Sil, what say you to a TS lynch instead of a Q lynch? I mean, I'll probably be ready to lynch either, but if you're right and TS flips scum, this should be an auto-win for town.

Also @Q: I'm not talking about your push for a Vasudeva lynch. I'm talking about your push for MY lynch after I slipped and changed my stance on the cop claiming.

Again, disingenuous. I didn't push for your lynch, in fact I never pushed you at all until post claim. I called you out on flip flopping, but I intentionally didn't make a big deal out of it. In fact I didn't even VOTE you, I just asked you how you reconciled two opposing views, and FoS'd you. That's hardly "pushing a lynch"

[Quaroath]

Other notes on DY's post:

I'm going to dig back, but I'm suspecting a sil/dy team atm. DY did a fantastic job in his last post yesterday of setting up "lynch sil or Q" mindset and trying to let people think about it overnight. Smells like setting up a buss+ townie lynch to win in the endgame. If my wagon goes no where, he can just bus his partner silavor, earn towncred and win on my mislynch.

[Nobody Special]

Shameless prod avoidance post. Holiday weekend; should be able to devote full attention to this game by Monday night (or definitely Tuesday).

[DarthYoshi]

Again, disingenuous. I didn't push for your lynch, in fact I never pushed you at all until post claim. I called you out on flip flopping, but I intentionally didn't make a big deal out of it. In fact I didn't even VOTE you, I just asked you how you reconciled two opposing views, and FoS'd you. That's hardly "pushing a lynch"

Dude, you said postgame that my flip flopping was what confirmed me as scum to you. You had zero-ed in on me pretty good.

As for your theory of a DY/Sil team, I can offer you my entire scum meta: Mini 1121, Mini 1146, Open 298, and Open 301. I do so for two reasons--first, I have yet to bus a buddy on D1 unless I absolutely had to. I voted Sil pretty early on D1 and had no need to do so out of self-protection or anything of that sort. Second, I usually stay on separate wagons from my buddies on D1. This was not the case towards the middle and end of D1 with Sil. When you look at my D1 interactions with Sil and my scum meta, the two do not match at all, and in any case, your own reasoning for it is really very vague-sounding.

[silavor]

Teamsleep, now's your chance to prove once and for all whether you're town or scum.

Look at how every time someone seriously suspects Q, they end up dead the next day.

Now vote Q. Failure to do so will be treated as a scumclaim with Q as your partner.

And no, this is not the whole case. But that alone is more than enough; the whole case is unnecessary at this point.

[teamsleep]

i'll do it if you vote DY tomorrow.

[DarthYoshi]

i'll do it if you vote DY tomorrow.

As recently as your ISO 64, which would be ten posts ago in the ISO, you refer to Q as town. Haven't said a word about him since. That you are already thinking ahead to a subsequent LyLo in which Q is gone indicates that you KNOW Q will flip scum.

In the parlance, we call that a scumslip.

Boys, I really do think we have our scumteam. I'm comfortable enough now to

Vote Quaraoth.

[Quaroath]

Me or you, I'm okay with you dy.

vote dy

I know we lose if I die, you not so much.

Up to ns now.

[Quaroath]

Again, disingenuous. I didn't push for your lynch, in fact I never pushed you at all until post claim. I called you out on flip flopping, but I intentionally didn't make a big deal out of it. In fact I didn't even VOTE you, I just asked you how you reconciled two opposing views, and FoS'd you. That's hardly "pushing a lynch"

Dude, you said postgame that my flip flopping was what confirmed me as scum to you. You had zero-ed in on me pretty good.

As for your theory of a DY/Sil team, I can offer you my entire scum meta: Mini 1121, Mini 1146, Open 298, and Open 301. I do so for two reasons--first, I have yet to bus a buddy on D1 unless I absolutely had to. I voted Sil pretty early on D1 and had no need to do so out of self-protection or anything of that sort. Second, I usually stay on separate wagons from my buddies on D1. This was not the case towards the middle and end of D1 with Sil. When you look at my D1 interactions with Sil and my scum meta, the two do not match at all, and in any case, your own reasoning for it is really very vague-sounding.

Now that I'm home.

Your right, post game I said that, but I didn't say a word during the game. You made it seem like i was raging at you to get lynched, which was far far from teh case. You and plum reacted baaad to VV's predicament.

Thanks for showing us how aware you are of your meta, because you couldn't possibly be aware of that and play against it, huh?

[Nobody Special]

Vote: DarthYoshi

Sometimes, it just all comes together.

[Quaroath]

Just to avoid like, weirdness

vote DarthYoshi

So the name is fully out there, though DY should suffice I'd think.

And yes, doesn't it though?

[Nobody Special]

Yep.

I so happy.

[Quaroath]

TOWN
DarthYoshi
tclawren
Nobody Special
Quaroath
singersigner
----------------Willing to lynch anyone below this line.
teamsleep
silavor
pinkfloyd*
Hikari Link
SCUM

*floyd is for DocVigging tonight.

NEW READS
TOWN
Yoshi
tcl
teamsleep
singer *
silavor **
Link **
-------------------Lynch line.
floyd
Quaroath
Nobody Special
SCUM

*Reads? Promised post?
** Scumread, but not for today or tonight.

This. scared. me.

[Nobody Special]

What? I've had the entire scumteam called out before, and we still won.

It does make for some interesting tension, though.

[pinkfloyd]

Mwahahahaa!!! WE WON!

Man, I'm so good at soft buddying town!! And I don't know how everyone believed my claim!

[Quaroath]

What? I've had the entire scumteam called out before, and we still won.

It does make for some interesting tension, though.

Yup.

[silavor]

Ah well. Seriousmode activated way too late this time round.

[Quaroath]

Ah well. Seriousmode activated way too late this time round.

Honestly wasn't worried at all if I got lynched, you and DY both had major hardons for TS, and you for sure swallowed the tie i made between him and I hook line and sinker.

And for the record, no one died because they suspected me. Skrew was the only person I choose for death, and we were trying to not hit a doc... which is why we didn't kill tclaw that night. Go doc reads eh?

[silavor]

So were the PF ties to TS just coincidental then?

[Quaroath]

As far as I'm aware, yes. We never talked about it.