In post 683, Oversoul wrote:
Normally I would not be against a side statement like this as it looks mostly harmless but I have to examine what it could mean coming from scum. Scum would say something like this because they have forgotten what they had said before the game was nuked and want to retain those same opinions for fear of looking discordant.
Trying to remember what to do looks like a scum without a plan because there are no longer any posts to try and trick the town into lynching the wrong person.
Why does me saying "I'm not sure what to do" read more as scum without a plan than town without a plan? I don't get this
In post 99, projectmatt wrote:Mastin was a town lean because the whole "i'm gonna catch the whole scum team d1 with my crazy analysis" is what he does as town, although I've never actually seen his scum play.
So you cannot really say that is his town play then? Why attribute something to Mastin so loosely when even you realize it cannot be completely trusted. This looks like scum trying to call someone town so that they do not need to have other reasons for calling said person town.
It means that he's town based on everything I've seen but the read isn't completely confident.
In post 116, projectmatt wrote:Oh and Mastin, what's making you read me as scum? I'm not sure what it's based on given you've read me incorrectly in the past and I feel my play is pretty much the same <.<
He acknowledges that this is just normal Mastin play, and acknowledges that it was wrong last time, but is still curious as to why Mastin thinks he is scum.
???? Yes, why would I not be curious as to why Mastin thinks I'm scum? I'm asking because I was playing pretty much the same as I did when I was town so I was trying to understand his read
In my opinion, Matt is playing scum due to a heightened sense of self awareness and he is conscientious of his play and doesn't want to look scummy.
I'm always "self aware" but people reading me is not my top priority
In post 205, projectmatt wrote:Hi guys. While you're arguing about whether or not it's wise to lynch a claimed cop day one because he has "connections" (tip: it's not) and making town vs town cases on each other (I'm looking at you, Chkflip and Twistedspoon, although I must admit I'm not as sure on Twistedtown anymore but still pretty sure on Chktown), I'll be lynching the person who is scum or has the likeliest chance to be. I would make a case, but I can't without the old game.
*sigh* I hate my own ambivalence. I'm going to need to remain confident about my feelings toward Matt, though.
Matt stating that Chk vs. TS is town v town is again scum attributing towniness to other players so that he does not need to come up with another read. He says that TS is town but remarks that his TS read could be wrong, so then how could he be so sure that Chk vs TS is a waste of time because it is a T v T argument?
Both had towntold IMMENSELY and I knew that trying to lynch either of them would be foolish and terrible so yes, I was getting a little annoyed that they were at each other's throats and I said that to make it stop
His last comment about the old game answers my questions about his first comment "I don't know what to do", but only partially and I would really like Matt to answer the question in full.
Why did you say "I don't know what to do" in your second post?
Because I wasn't sure where to start after losing the entire game
In post 382, projectmatt wrote:Twistedspoon,your jumping on BBmolla's wagon was insanely, insanely awkward but I'll disregard that given you towntold a bit before.
You used akward to describe BBmolla's vote as scummy. What exactly do you mean when you say awkward? Right now I see you using awkward as a synonym for scummy.
It meant ...awkward. It didn't seem natural, it felt forced, so yes I guess I was
In post 396, projectmatt wrote:Pine -
I forgot to ask, is it possible to paraphrase or quote things from the QT or is that against the guidelines? I can't find anything regarding it in the game rules. I think it would be a gigantic help if you could paraphrase some of the things Bunny said, but yeah
If both Pine and BL are town then this post possibly means Matt is looking for something to play on a BL lynch. However, if one of the two is scum then this does point toward Matt being town as he would know what BL already said in the QT.
How does me trying to get reads by getting Pine to quote the QT translate to me trying to get the QT so I can have a basis to lynch Bunny? If I was that eager to lynch Bunny, why not just lynch him based on what was already there? It's not like anybody was trying to call him town
In post 511, projectmatt wrote:Post #465 by Kondi is an awkwardly formal and sincere side I have never seen from him. I've only seen him play laid back and not nearly as confident/analytic as he does now. I'll keep on eye on him, I guess.
I agree with this sentiment that Kondi deserves a second look.
Why do you think that Kondi is town now, Matt?
I forget what he did but I remember him making several towntells after I had made that post
Excuse me?
Matt in his previous posts says that he can see BL being town and states that BL's wagon is okay. Up to this point I don't think Matt has even announced any scumreads as he has vocally said BL could be town while voting for him.
Actually I outed a scum read on Kise and I forget who else but I outed several town reads which is generally how I play. Saying that someone
COULD
be town doesn't mean they are
In addition, he tries to make his post look more adequate by asking Mastin the most pointless question in the history of the universe. Matt has said numerous times that Mcqueen is obvious town. Multiple people have stated that they think Mcqueen is obvious town so why the hell would he ask Mastin what he thinks of Mcqueen?
Mcqueen was obvious town but I remember Mastin was looking at him in an odd way so I was trying to ask him if he thought that Mcqueen was town as well. This would help me get a read on Mastin and let me see if he was getting the same kind of tells, like a town would.
In post 563, projectmatt wrote:Hm.
Oversoul, why is it me? Let's talk.
Having some doubts about Bunnylover myself - not that I ever scum read her hard in the first place, but I'm also not sure who I could switch a wagon on in the course of one day. Eh...
I am ready to talk. I have been busy and I guess so have you, but your play has been extremely suspect.
The last part of this post looks horrible as only scum are concerned who they should switch to do when push comes to shove. I give you towncredit as it doesn't make sense for scum to publicly announce this feeling, but damn this post.
Right, damn this post because I'm not sure who to vote.
In post 639, projectmatt wrote:1. Someone explain to me why Kise is town
2. Knox is a fairly good vote.
3. I have a few fairly solid town reads but I need to check up something quickly. However Mastin/Nacho seriously need to realize that I'm town. <.<
Why is Knox a good vote?
Why are you so concerned about Mastin and Nacho thinking that you are scum? Why is my name not mentioned? What makes you think that other people should view you as town in this game? You haven't anything, been confirmed by anything, or have someone confirm you as town.
Because I get mislynched in several of my games when I am town and I despise being seen as a "VI" or a liability, so yes, I want people that I believe are town to townread me so I don't end up getting screwed over later
In post 682, projectmatt wrote:Originally, I was planning to come in and attack Knox but after looking at her ISO I'm actually tempted to give her some free space right now because of her strong attack on SlySly and my inablity to actually get a solid scum tell on her, aside from a fairly bad unjustifiable gut read
What does her attack on Sly have to do with anything? Sly was a traitor... therefore main group scum would not have known he was mafia. Sly could have potentially known who maingroup scum were, though.
That was my mistake.
What game have we played together where you were scum and I was town?
Red Dead Redemption Mafia
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