In post 144, Tangion wrote:Wow the days seem to be going by to fast I need to do a more in depth read through
What happened to that read you said you were going to do?
In post 144, Tangion wrote:Wow the days seem to be going by to fast I need to do a more in depth read through
In post 124, nhammen wrote:VE, a few things. 1) Your claim does not quite confirm you as town. There are alternatives. But until we have reason to believe these alternatives are in the game, I have no problem considering you confirmed town for the time being. 2) Stop arguing with Salamance over this D1 stuff. Salamance was asking Emp for reasons that he thought your statement was fake. This wasn't lining up lynches, it was checking if Empking was sincere. 3) mcqueen was trying to policy lynch the godfather. That's not a kind of bussing I've ever seen.
In post 128, mcqueen wrote:I feel loved. <3
Also, besides the Salamence wagon, to base whoever it was's alignment off of his [Slamence] flip, all other wagons are complete shit. They are based off tiny spokes of land, leading off an island, not a huge boat sitting right in the docks. They seem almost "third party votes," meaning they are based off of an already controversial lynch. This reasoning seems pure shit to me, as finding out what someone is, to not find out what someone else is, won't help us find out what whoever it was (the person I can't remember above) is. Not worth it.
We are going to lynch Salamence for -
- A. To base whoever it was's alignment off of his flip.
OR
- B. Because he's scummy.
And we are going to -
- A. Not lynch "third party votes."
AND
- B. Lynch actual scum.
In post 129, PMysterious wrote:I'm afraid mcqueen is right. Salamence20 is the wagon of choice for this game day.
VOTE: Salamence20
In post 149, Empking wrote:In post 148, PMysterious wrote:In post 146, nhammen wrote:
In post 143, PMysterious wrote:In post 141, Arugula wrote:@MoI
How am I buddying to you? I think Salamence expected you to be the kill, and said, "Oh, man, MoI died!" because he thought you died. Obviously, scum doesn't kill scum, so you would be pretty much considered town if Salamence flips scum.
And what makes that distancing as opposed to everything else that has been posted about Salamence?
What if both are town or scum? I bet you haven't thought of that yet.
Ummm... he just gave a legitimate argument for why they aren't both scum, and you quoted it... And he has never said they aren't both town. So, what was this?
Just a question I had in mind for Arugula. That's all.
FOS: PM- That's the most pathetic rebuttal I've ever heard. (I'm half surprised it didn't end with "that's my opinion. You can't judge an opinion."
In post 157, Salamence20 wrote:In post 156, Toon Fighter wrote:In post 155, Salamence20 wrote:Well MoI, I would probably say I would be more careful of my posts if I was actually scum, but since i have yet to be scum, I really don't know what to expect from scumsala. Town Sala is more reckless on posting.
Again, if I was scum, I would probably lurk more and double (triple) check my posts as scum.
Pure WIFOM. Also, your claim doesn't make me wanna lynch you less. My vote will continue on you. We already have 2 mafia dead, and your lynch could give us precious information for next day (even if you flip town).
Well please tell me what information you get from me being town.
In post 174, PMysterious wrote:Well, Empking seems to be the best lynch but Salamence20 seems to be decent. I hate it when I have to make up my mind.
UNVOTE:
In post 273, Tangion wrote:I still wanna see rofl hang I dont have any other strong reads
In post 252, MagnaofIllusion wrote:That’s kind of my point … you can find situations where scum were bussed Day 1. You can find situations where powerful scum roles were bussed. But I’ve never seen a speed-lynch on a powerful scum role with every single partner bussing. I went through my Wiki to see if I could find a game that matches this circumstance and came up blank.
Closest thing I could come up with was Buffy Mafia where obv-scum iStark was power-bussed by both GreyICE and camn Day 1 after I busted him on page 1. He was a Goon so he doesn’t meet the PowerRole profile and it was a small game. Every other Day 1 scum lynch I found was not proliferated with partners.
I think the only way that wagon has significant scum on it is if we are in Multiball which we will not know til after a few days or another color Mafia flip.
In post 252, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Empking wrote:No.I am suggesting that Pres' vote on ROFL seems out of character for Pres and suggests a connection between him and Rofl(a scum connection considering the day of the lynch and his flip) this is compounded by the fact that ROFL was the quicklyncherbut that isn't the main point.
The bolded is fluffly language garbage. Out of character? That’s meaningless drivel.
In post 280, nhammen wrote:I'm somewhat concerned with why he keeps bringing up rofl, and ignoring the possibility that prescending was chainsawing. Given his premise, he should be considering that a possibility as well.
In post 271, MagnaofIllusion wrote:HEY VELANZANTH – WHY ARE YOU IGNORING QUESTIONS?
I put this bold and right at the top so you couldn’t possible miss it. I don’t like being ignored. Answer the following –
We already have 2 Mafia dead and a claimed Vig. Why are you worrying about him making it to endgame (and by this I assume you mean LYLO ) with these facts?
The him in question is of course Sala.
Also …
Velaz wrote: Yes, actually. And let me tell you why. The day after I make a post I come back to the thread to find us locked into night already. I missed out on the entire wagon, and had I been involved in discussion, he probably would have been gone much sooner.
What is this? Rofl is scum for not asking for a claim (and not extending the day) but had you been on you would have lynched him faster?
Please explain how this isn’t Cognitive Dissonance?
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In post 99, roflcopter wrote:page three hammer on the godfather, one for the record books
17 player game, 2 scum down, most likely 2 scum left. i'm calling salamence and empking right now, with more certainty on empking. he entirely ignored the already burgeoning prescending wagon on his entry to the game yesterday and instead spent his time undermining other people's townreads and uselessly sparring with now confirmed town ve. his vote on me looks like it was preplanned overnight.
there are good reasons to think sal is scum (including pres chainsaw defending him by voting me for my vote on him) but he also kept his vote on and called for a pres lynch at l-1 when he could have just as easily derailed the wagon, thus my higher certainty on emp.
vote: empking
will switch to sal if its the will of the mob
viscera, nhammen and mcqueen should basically be considered confirmed town. moi too if sal flips scum.
@emp, what about his interaction with me don't you like, specifically, and what about the vc is eyebrow raising, specifically.
In post 281, roflcopter wrote:In post 280, nhammen wrote:I'm somewhat concerned with why he keeps bringing up rofl, and ignoring the possibility that prescending was chainsawing. Given his premise, he should be considering that a possibility as well.
(its because i was exactly right in my first post of the day and empking and sala are the two remaining scum)
In post 282, Velazanth wrote:Let's break this down.
#6 (Post 0): Perfectly normal RVS vote.
#29 (Post 1): Jumps the Sala wagon third with absolutely no explanation, after my initial vote, followed by Toog.
#73 (Post 2): A nice shiny fuckin Hammer Bus.
#99 (Post 3): D2 jump into IIoA, and offers a wilting vote to the will of the mob.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
In post 283, Salamence20 wrote:In post 281, roflcopter wrote:In post 280, nhammen wrote:I'm somewhat concerned with why he keeps bringing up rofl, and ignoring the possibility that prescending was chainsawing. Given his premise, he should be considering that a possibility as well.
(its because i was exactly right in my first post of the day and empking and sala are the two remaining scum)
This guy needs to die and when he flips scum me and empking are town
In post 285, roflcopter wrote:In post 283, Salamence20 wrote:In post 281, roflcopter wrote:In post 280, nhammen wrote:I'm somewhat concerned with why he keeps bringing up rofl, and ignoring the possibility that prescending was chainsawing. Given his premise, he should be considering that a possibility as well.
(its because i was exactly right in my first post of the day and empking and sala are the two remaining scum)
This guy needs to die and when he flips scum me and empking are town
i loled
In post 282, Velazanth wrote:Let's break this down.
#6 (Post 0): Perfectly normal RVS vote.
#29 (Post 1): Jumps the Sala wagon third with absolutely no explanation, after my initial vote, followed by Toog.
#73 (Post 2): A nice shiny fuckin Hammer Bus.
#99 (Post 3): D2 jump into IIoA, and offers a wilting vote to the will of the mob.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
Velazanth wrote:Also, Sala is almost assuredly scum.
You're right it's not IIoA, I mispoke. But I still think you stink.
I'll tell you what, let's lynch Sala and I'll let you know if I still think you're scum in the morning.
Sala wrote: This guy needs to die and when he flips scum me and empking are town
Velaz wrote: A. I'm not. And at this point I won't be shocked when he flips scum. His play is incredibly spontaneous, and it reeks of newbie. But since I don't get to pull the trigger, I can only point out what a fantastic lynch candidate he is. Tangentially related, I have my own thoughts about the D2 Vig claim that I don't want to share with the class just yet.
Velaz wrote: #6 (Post 0): Perfectly normal RVS vote.
#29 (Post 1): Jumps the Sala wagon third with absolutely no explanation, after my initial vote, followed by Toog.
#73 (Post 2): A nice shiny fuckin Hammer Bus.
#99 (Post 3): D2 jump into IIoA, and offers a wilting vote to the will of the mob.
Arugula wrote:@MoI
Not everything I do is scummy. I don't know why you have a vendetta against me this game, but you are wrong so stop tunneling my posts.
nhammen wrote:Meh, I don't agree with this though. I can say that when I play as scum, I do not base my votes on a wagon around whether my partners are on that wagon, unless I know that a powerful town player likes your kind of VCA, in which case I do things to mess with that VCA.
nhammen wrote:I also disagree with this, although I disagree with Empking as well on this point. For instance, if you know a player always OMGUSes as town, and this player is wagoned, and votes someone off the wagon, that is a clear scumtell, and indicates a connection to either the person he vote for, or someone that person made comments about. Emking's claim is that Prescending is "obviously" such a player.
In post 291, Salamence20 wrote:@MoI: I am certain ROFL is scum, theres no way we are both scum.
Get off the Empking wagon for now, i tell you he seems townish.
MoI, do you think we can both be town? (ROFL and me)
In post 290, MagnaofIllusion wrote:@Empking – Since you haven’t done it yet I’m altering my request to you to find Godfathers who were Power-bussed Day 1 to also include Roleblockers (as they are pretty powerful to scum also) to give you an even wider range of possible lynches to collect.
In post 293, MagnaofIllusion wrote:In post 291, Salamence20 wrote:@MoI: I am certain ROFL is scum, theres no way we are both scum.
Get off the Empking wagon for now, i tell you he seems townish.
MoI, do you think we can both be town? (ROFL and me)
Why are you certain Rofl is scum? I've yet to see anything compelling myself to that end.
Why do you think Empking seems Townish other than him calling you Town?
Absolutely both of you can be Town. You are both on the Pres wagon. Only way I would consider you both as scum is if it is Multiball (unproven at this stage).
In post 295, Salamence20 wrote:In post 293, MagnaofIllusion wrote:In post 291, Salamence20 wrote:@MoI: I am certain ROFL is scum, theres no way we are both scum.
Get off the Empking wagon for now, i tell you he seems townish.
MoI, do you think we can both be town? (ROFL and me)
Why are you certain Rofl is scum? I've yet to see anything compelling myself to that end.
Why do you think Empking seems Townish other than him calling you Town?
Absolutely both of you can be Town. You are both on the Pres wagon. Only way I would consider you both as scum is if it is Multiball (unproven at this stage).
Me, Empking, ROFL
Im sure one is scum of this group, and i am voting the best canidate.
I feel a town vs town argument from you and empking.
In post 295, Salamence20 wrote:Me, Empking, ROFL
Im sure one is scum of this group, and i am voting the best canidate.
I feel a town vs town argument from you and empking.
In post 297, Toogeloo wrote:XFD ... why? ...why do you keep saying stuff like this.