My Little Pony: Friendship is Redemption (Over)

[chamber]

To see whether you'd get defensive.

How would you define defensive? In this context what would me having gotten defensive told you?

[DJ P0n-3]

After that stuff:

-chamber and Shmugen's Charlie votes are good.

-Rarity's analysis of Charlie gets distracted by "Dear Princess Celestia/Luna" and misses that he

ignores every question he's asked

.

You'd have to read those replies I made to her in an aloof or highly sarcastic tone; then it'll shed a different light on things.
Rarity, Tierce obviously thinks I've lost it and clearly you've mentioned that my replies were "rude and asinine": I assure you it is not. Refer to that poking something with a stick analogy? Yeah, that's the best context I can offer to the floor. Nothing against a person personally, no personal attacks, just using applied psychology in the hopes to garner a more extreme reaction from the target, side effect is others take notice and inputs. I note the people who respond positively, those who remain indifferent and those who respond negatively. I gauge those reactions with a gradient of honesty. I then get a better idea of the personalities behind these walls of text. That's a part of how I play this whacky game of online Mafia (seriously? I have no idea how to play this game.) :applelie:

Why are you playing the way you are playing? It is annoying as hell.

People with inflated egos are malignant (generally true).

Hey. Hey, girl! Wake up

[x] Hey!
[ ] Listen!
[ ] Go!
[ ] Watch Out!
[x] Wake Up!

I recognize

[Vi's]

wicked sense of humor as a symptom of too much exposure from the intertubez,

Useless fluff.

Ponies Present (2)

01 Tierce

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13 Charlie

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Useless fluff.

Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

Just because you don't agree with the tell being valid does not mean you get to be rude about it.

I'm not meaning to be rude. Only sarcastic.

Now please, at the risk of being called a hypocrite, explain to me why you have to write such long-winded responses?

I just do. Always have, always will. Deal with it.

If this is the sort of posting I can look forward to seeing from you, I don't think I'll enjoy playing with you very much. Unfortunately I think you're town, so there is little I can do about it.

I'm fine if that's your style. I just want you to post more often. It's hard for me to scumhunt if somebody only makes one post every 3 days or so, and it's a carefully worded one at that. If you're town, surely you'll understand.

Now I suppose I need to ISO Charlie and see what the case on him is all about.

Any follow-up to this?

What I meant with the bait comment was that we could talk about what that altslip meant and the WIFOM behind it until the Mod declared "No Lynch" since I could have just as easily called Chamber out on his explanation, but we didn't get into that. It was moot. Though now, we've been into some good discussion about reads and have started pointing out different things about everyone and what connections and comments we should keep in the back of our minds for later day phases. That comment is now outdated as its relevance has expired and stronger information and reads have come to light since then.

And those stronger information and reads are... ?

I would like to see Godot explain what he means with the bait in post #178, because I can't understand it no matter how many times I read it. For the record, I believe Pinkie Pie is town too, that was my immediate reaction to post #94.

What I meant with the bait comment was that we could talk about what that altslip meant and the WIFOM behind it until the Mod declared "No Lynch" since I could have just as easily called Chamber out on his explanation, but we didn't get into that. It was moot. Though now, we've been into some good discussion about reads and have started pointing out different things about everyone and what connections and comments we should keep in the back of our minds for later day phases. That comment is now outdated as its relevance has expired and stronger information and reads have come to light since then.

The bolded above are what I feel are the relevant parts of this post.

Useless fluff.

I'm getting more and more willing to wagon VI. This is on the same level with Charlie.

Does Vi always get fluffy in mafia?

I'm cute when fluffy ^-^

This is the fluffiest I've EVER seen Vi by a wide margin.

I've played plenty of games with Vi, and I've never seen Vi act like this.

You guys have shitty definitions of fluff. (godot charlie smugen is still the scum team)

Wrong.

ProsecutorGodot has requested replacement. One coming in ten seconds flat (or so)

Oh, fantastic. Completely unexpected.

This makes Godot even more likely to be scum seeing as there was no warning whatsoever.

ProsecutorGodot has requested replacement. One coming in ten seconds flat (or so)

YOU GOT TO BE F^#%^{}^ kidding me!!!

Needs more votes, do not let him slide under the radar.

I agree, but let's wait to hear from the replacement. Take everything he or she says with a grain of salt, but etc.

P-edit: does fluffiness effect vi's alignment in any way?

Not sure about this. I haven't noticed too much difference either way in the past.

I'm inclined to believe that replacing him out makes him more likely scum if anything, but I had a strong enough scum read prior to the replacement to not hold that above his replacements head too, there are non scum reasons to replace out there after all.

This post makes less than no sense.

You thought he was scummy previously, and replacing out makes him even scummier, but your scum read was strong enough that you don't want to hold it above his replacement's head? What?

If the slot is scum it's scum.

That was the weirdest thing. 10 minutes before a post that didn't show any interest in replacing out and then request replacement? My first instinct is scum, town usually fights tooth and nail--and at L-5, at that, so it's not like there was a ridiculous amount of pressure.

However, even though there are other games he's in, that was his last post as of now--I'd rather wait and see what happens to Godot's activity around the site--and honestly, this kind of read makes me feel dirty, but it seems inane not to use it. :/ I'm conflicted at a moral and read level.

I've replaced out of games before as town when I haven't been having fun in them.

I've never replaced out as scum unless it was a bad spot I hadn't gotten myself into (i.e. replace in, see how bad things are, replace out).
As scum, I would never replace out of a situation that I had gotten myself into. That's just rude.

Come to think of it, the wagon on Godot was disappearing slowly but surely, I can't see a reason why he'd replace out suddenly like that as scum. I very much wish he'd have given some thoughts before disappearing, however.

Unvote vote Arugula

Why is Godot/Arugula's wagon suddenly more interesting than Charlie's?

Why don't you ever explain your votes?

Actually, for once, I know what I am doing.

Don't lynch Arugula today.

Trust me, or if youre scum, dont.

Why would you day-cop Godot of all people?

Why would you day-cop Godot of all people?

Rolefishing much?

I'm not a day cop.

Thats not rolefishing.

Yes, it is rolefishing.

But I'm curious as well, why do you seem so sure that Arugula is not scum all of a sudden, Salamence?

Ok I've read. This game is weird. I didn't make a huge catchup post, but if anyone has any specific questions on where I stand, go ahead and ask.

Arugula knows how to play mafia. And like his replacement, arugula will find a way to point this all at me.

What? You want my slot lynched the whole time, but when I replace in, I shouldn't be lynched? I'm not following your logic, as the reason you don't want me lynched is

because you think I will paint you as scum.

Could you elaborate?

Salamence and DJ Pon3 have been flip-flopping on my slot, and it gives me the shivers, like they are doing whatever helps them at the moment. Charlie has also given me bad vibes, but I need to ISO him to get a good reason why.

One thing that stuck out when I was reading is that Salamence called out Godot for using the newb/VI card, when Salamence does this in nearly every game he is in, meta-wise. I am keeping my vote on him right now.

And there was something in DJ Pon3's ISO that ruffled my feathers, but I can't remember what it was. I wrote it in a post in a new tab, but my internet went out at around Page 11, so I lost it.

@Chamber
Did you revote me because Godot replaced out?

Sufficiently vague so as not to step on anybody's toes.
"Gives me the shivers" and "ruffles my feathers" don't do much for me.

I look forward to seeing the Lost Page 11 Post recreated.

@Chamber
Did you revote me because Godot replaced out?

Yes, though I suspect your infered conclusion drawn from that is wrong.

Your vote looked opportunistic, so feel free to elaborate.

Scared of the rising pressure on Charlie?

Wait, time out.

Why are people voting Arugula when I said don't, but when I said vote Godot they didn't.

Fuck logic.

Because nobody in this game really values your opinion, and you are more useful as a gauge of other people's reactions than as a compass for finding scum.

And now Godot has been posting in another game, so everything I said is now void.

VOTE: Arugula

I'm sorry your time here is short.

So Godot was town for replacing out because he had other games, but now he's scum for posting in those other games?

And you wonder why people don't listen to you.

--

Damn, it's almost like Vi and chamber are taking turns being scummy/fluffy so that nobody gets suspicious of either one of them all at once.

[Arugula]

Arugula, please claim.

Godot already claimed. I'm Cheerilee, the Educator Pony. VT.

Regarding Arugula’s entrance, still do not feel like he has given a legitimate read on who is scum and that his responses to both Salamence and chamber are OMGUSy.

I didn't make a huge catchup post, but if you have a question, ask. Do you think Salamence and chamber acted like town in my exchange with them.

Also, I just got back from the beach and haven't had a chance to ISO yet.

[DJ P0n-3]

These past few pages have been very scummy.
Even though I really like a DJ-wagon, and she's still scum, there's still more scum than just her;

For Arugula, it's really unfortunate to replace into a scummy slot and then have to defend said scummy slot. However, nothing he's posted has made him seem more likely to be town. In fact, I didn't really feel Godot was too scummy before Arugula replaced in.

Also- Salamence's posts in response to the entire Godot/Arugula situation has really poked at my scumdar; I'd be willing to lynch either Sala or Arugula today.

Unvote: VOTE: Arugula

^
The scummier of the two current wagons.

You didn't think Godot was too scummy before Arugula replaced in, but now that Arugula's here, he's worth switching off of me, whose wagon you really like, for what reason?

That's pretty badly worded. Another try.

If Godot wasn't too scummy, what's scummier about Arugula? Specifically, what's scummy enough to switch of my wagon, which you've been more than content with riding the whole time?

If it's shameless bandwagoning to put pressure on Arugula, why not say so? As it is, it looks like you were trying to come up with a reason for putting a L-2 vote on someone. But it ends up appearing rather hollow indeed. Any town read I had on your slot just evaporated.

Salamence not wanting to lynch Arugula makes Trixie question the legitimacy of his reads; if he actually thought Godot was scum, then Arugula replacing in shouldn't have meant anything - scum slot is still scum slot. It seems like a huge leap in reasoning: for town with a legitimate scumread on Godot, that scumread should only begin to change if they start to see town-motivated posts out of Arugula, whereas for Salamence it seemed that he was willing to change his opinion on the slot before anything happened.

So, Sala, now that your plan is out in the open (i.e. useless), do you still think we should lynch Arugula?

He went from scum to town to scum. Salamence is quite obviously town by this point.

Why are you even asking his opinion after calling his plan useless?

Eh
I'm I the only one here who didn't find the replace out in itself scummy? :/

Did you read the thread? More or less everyone who commented on Godot replacing out said it was independently scummy.

This new wagon forming up on godotrugula feels odd though I can't place a finger as to how so,

I concur. I am getting those old feelings back again, of opportunism and generally just a dirty feeling.

I don't think Godot's slot should be lynched today. Salamence shouldn't be lynched at all.

Best lynches are Charlie, chamber, Vi.

Bleh. Going back to Post 222, not feeling an Arugula lynch today.

Not feeling a lynch on Salamence wither, though I'm pretty sure that's the kind of slot that will end up dragged to LyLo.

Charlie is still a lovely vote in the name of Discord.

Excellent! My minion agrees!

Or perhaps I am

her

minion; who knows of the inner workings of such things?

I'm terrible with this scumread thing. What do you think of Feysal?

I wouldn't lynch Feysal in this game.

Why not?

What say I told you that not both of Sudo_Nym and Konowa are Town?

Why so? And which one?

Hint: One is much more likely to be town, and it's not hard to tell which. I'm interested to know which you think it is.

I can dig digging in new spots. I'll take a look too.

What's wrong with your Charlie vote? (Hint: nothing)

What's your opinion on Arugula/Godot, or the people on that wagon?

Konowa's 416 is a good post and makes for excellent bedtime reading material.

Not so of Charlie's post 417. He and Vi are having a battle to see who can be the most useless. It's getting damn irritating.

ProfessorGodot did the right thing when the chips were down and a step from lynch; he made a claim, and it was a good claim. VT claim is not enough to clear him, but I think the path of wisdom is to grant the benefit of the doubt.

Since when has VT claims given someone benefit of the doubt?
Is his benefit based solely on flavor, or....?

Still waiting on a response to this.

Was barely worthy of a response. Since when does somebody who makes a good claim not deserve the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you missed the part where I said that a VT claim is not a clear? Or maybe you failed reading comprehension in school?

Why are you getting defensive and irritated about this? Why the insult?

Sudo is also on the scum list now. That makes, 1, 2, 3, 4... 5... 6? ...shit.

To see whether you'd get defensive.

How would you define defensive? In this context what would me having gotten defensive told you?

See the above post by Sudo_Nym. That's defensive.

Your other question is directly at odds with advice you gave Salamence earlier, and I'm feeling like giving you the middle finger in regards to answering it, much like Charlie has been giving Tierce and myself.

If it's time to adapt to people's playstyles this game, then so be it.

Guerilla warfare has begun.

[DJ P0n-3]

Arugula, please claim.

Godot already claimed. I'm Cheerilee, the Educator Pony. VT.

Regarding Arugula’s entrance, still do not feel like he has given a legitimate read on who is scum and that his responses to both Salamence and chamber are OMGUSy.

I didn't make a huge catchup post, but if you have a question, ask. Do you think Salamence and chamber acted like town in my exchange with them.

Also, I just got back from the beach and haven't had a chance to ISO yet.

Who are your top 3 town picks?

Your top 3 scum picks?

[fatlikepig]

Dear Princess Lun-
[Source: lamiaaaa on dA]

I learned nothing today.

Charlie: Why the heck do you want a claim out of someone who's at L-3 and who you aren't even voting for?

What?? Are you even paying attention? Ask yourself why I'm asking this of him. If you can't find why then I'll point it out for you but you owe me a muffin.

*ahem*

That was embarrassing.

[fatlikepig]

@Salamence: Meh. That big post doesn't do very much for Trixie either way, because it's mostly stuff that was already fairly self-evident.

Tell Trixie though, do to usually sheep people/lurk in the beginning of the game as town? Links would be swell.

[Salamence20]

I only have 2 games where I have played in RVS.

They are ongoing.

[chamber]

This post makes less than no sense.

You thought he was scummy previously, and replacing out makes him even scummier, but your scum read was strong enough that you don't want to hold it above his replacement's head? What?

If the slot is scum it's scum.

I may have worded things ambiguously (haven't actually reread my post) what I meant was that although replacing out marginally increases the likelyhood that the slot is scum imo, I already have good reasons to suspect the slot and will continue to use those rather than the flaky replacement tell.

[chamber]

Your other question is directly at odds with advice you gave Salamence earlier

Not entirely, you already sprung your trap. And I already have a good idea about how my natural tendancies towards defensiveness change as town and as mafia.

[Vi]

What did I say that was illogical?

(inb4 everything)

in during everything

tl;dr You

[Vi]

are being bad and you should feel bad.

I'm being bad and feeling kind of good about it. :3

Also, I think you're in juuuuust a bit of a hurry to call things fluff and me fluffy. (as cute as I am when that happens) To name one of a few examples, you noticeably glossed entirely over my reaction to Godot's replacement.

[Charlie]

and Vi are having a battle to see who can be the most useless.

Actually we're battling to see who's most entertaining.

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Why so

[in re: not both of Sudo and Konowa-Town]

? And which one?

Hint: One is much more likely to be town, and it's not hard to tell which. I'm interested to know which you think it is.

False dichotomy. I said that

not both

of them are Town. It's not implausible that both are scum; just that both are Town. And until convinced otherwise I maintain your Town read on Konowa is crap.

If we're on the same page, and if everyone else needs a push to stop being useless,

Unvote: DJ P0n-3
Vote: Sudo_Nym

(L-7)

[Arugula]

Arugula, please claim.

Godot already claimed. I'm Cheerilee, the Educator Pony. VT.

Regarding Arugula’s entrance, still do not feel like he has given a legitimate read on who is scum and that his responses to both Salamence and chamber are OMGUSy.

I didn't make a huge catchup post, but if you have a question, ask. Do you think Salamence and chamber acted like town in my exchange with them.

Also, I just got back from the beach and haven't had a chance to ISO yet.

Who are your top 3 town picks?

Your top 3 scum picks?

Top 3 Scum Picks:
Salamence
Chamber
DJ Pon-3/Charlie tied for third

Top 3 Town Picks:
Trixie (fatlikepig or whatever)
Shmugen
Tierce

[chamber]

Does anyone in this game actually have confidence in their ability to read Vi correctly?

[Tierce]

Nope.
Fortunately, Vi has an even bigger tendency to die N1 as scum than as town, so etc.

[Arugula]

DJ, what's your current stance on Tierce?

[chamber]

This is a llama game.

[Tierce]

I know. It still has the potential of having a very kind SK or something that would deal with cute and fuzzy Vi before we have to actually bother with reading that slot. But ultimately, I was being facetious and commenting on Vi's trend of dying early regardless of alignment. As for a Vi-read? No bloody clue.

I seem to recall I have work to do in this thread. :effort: and whatnot.

[Vi]

VI

Daykill: DJ P0n-3

Does anyone in this game actually have confidence in their ability to read Vi correctly?

There might or might not be

someone

. I'm not putting any faith in that someone being

me

though

This is a llama game.

That's what we said

last

game.

[chamber]

I think Vi has outlived me in every game we've played together. Hardly reassuring advice for me.

[Tierce]

CES isn't playing~

[Tierce]

Rather disappointed in Brarity's Post 401, tbqh. That might actually be a scum slot.

[Rarity]

You didn't think Godot was too scummy before Arugula replaced in, but now that Arugula's here, he's worth switching off of me, whose wagon you really like, for what reason?

That's pretty badly worded. Another try.

If Godot wasn't too scummy, what's scummier about Arugula? Specifically, what's scummy enough to switch of my wagon, which you've been more than content with riding the whole time?

If it's shameless bandwagoning to put pressure on Arugula, why not say so? As it is, it looks like you were trying to come up with a reason for putting a L-2 vote on someone. But it ends up appearing rather hollow indeed.

Any town read I had on your slot just evaporated.

Woah Woah WOAH.

You mean you had a town read on me before but somehow one post has made that disappear?

Oh me oh my.

But what is this, you are asking me...

You didn't think Godot was too scummy before Arugula replaced in, but now that Arugula's here, he's worth switching off of me

,

Yes, yes he is. And I gave more than enough reasons in that post. If you think I'd give out every reason as to why somepony is scum up front, especially before they make another post, then your motivations are clearly not town here.

Don't worry, you're still scum. I'm not going to explain to scum why voting other scum over them at the moment is alright. The reasons are quite obvious.
I mean yeah I know it probably bothers you that I've put pressure on both you and your buddy but you'll just have to deal with it, I'm afraid.

Oh and

putting a L-2 vote on someone.

L-3, actually. Not that it matters much, I just hate misinformation.

Eh
I'm I the only one here who didn't find the replace out in itself scummy? :/

I didn't feel the replace itself was scummy either.
But just the interactions from the replaced in slot with salamance and Chamber made this slot really flare up for me.

@Sudo: Do you have any relevant or helpful things to say today? Your content all game has been severely lacking. Every time you post with nothing to say I just wish you were dead. I don't really feel you are scum, just useless town.

Charlie makes a lot of "ehhhh" posts, but they don't feel scum motivated. Shmugen has moved to "meh" from "scummy";

Chamber is still not-scum, and it makes me giggle any time someone accuses him of being such.

I'd be willing to lynch DJ, Arugula, or Salamance today.
Vote stays where it is for now.

[Vi]

Rather disappointed in Brarity's Post

401

455, tbqh. That might actually be a scum slot.

[Rarity]

Don't worry Vi, once we catch all the scumponies you'll get over it.~ :3

[Tierce]

ITT: Vi cannot count. Rather impressive how the link was actually correct even though the number was not.

So you see the same tri-scum problem I do with regards to that slot, right? Unfortunately that doesn't always point to scum, but it sure looks opportunistic.