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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:18 am

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(Arthur) V/LA till Wed. Labor Day weekend.



As I already said,
Bvoigt/
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(Also, if someone is chosen, and they're town, please don't take it to your head to do something bizarre [hint: like shooting Starbuck])
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:36 am

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House Stokeworth of Stokeworth rules over this town close to King's Landing, to the north. They blazon their arms with a white lamb holding a goblet goblet on a green field. Their motto is "Proud to be Faithful."


Day 1, Votecount 38

Minimum (2) - Iecerint, Albert B. Rampage
Iecerint (8) - Amrun, Minimum, bvoigt, Mastermind of Sin, Shadow1psc, BBmolla, Shinori, Regfan
Feysal (1) - Starbuck
Shinori (1) - Staeg
Shadow1psc (2) - StefanB, Lyanna Stark
bvoigt (8) - Plum's Yo Mamma, greenknight, SnowStorm, Dolorous Edd, Tyene Sand, Pandora, MagnaofIllusion, Benmage

Jal (1) - DCLXVI

Not Voting (5):
Mockingjaye, kortul, Plessiezrus, Jal, Feysal

With 28 alive it takes 15 to lynch.

  • Deadline
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  • Countdown to deadline
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CHOOSE IRONMAN

Dolorous Edd (2) - Albert B. Rampage, Jal
Feysal (7) - Iecerint, Bvoigt, greenknight, Shinori, DCLXVI, Dolorous Edd, Benmage

Hasdgfas (1) - Shadow1psc
Minimum (4) - Regfan, StefanB, Lyanna Stark, MagnaofIllusion
Starbuck (1) - Starbuck
Shadow1psc (2) - Mockingjaye, kortul
greenknight (5) - Plum's Yo Mamma, Minimum, Tyene Sand, Pandora, Plessiezarus
kortul (3) - Mastermind of Sin, BBmolla, Staeg

Not Choosing (3):
Amrun, SnowStorm, Feysal

With 28 alive it takes 15 to 'Choose'. Once a choose has 15 votes it will be locked in but not end day.


ANY MISTAKES MAY BE POINTED OUT.

Looking for an Amrun replacement.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:38 am

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unvote, vote ICERINT


DEADLINE IN 3 DAYS LETS LYNCH NOW.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:40 am

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CHOOSE FEYSAL
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:40 am

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Oops, deadline extension accounted for. Hopefully I can get a replacement quickly, again.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:41 am

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Choose Feysal
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 1:45 am

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We don't need a majority for the choosing, just fyi, ABR, so you can safely pick greenknight like the cool people are doing.

Feysal, your case on Starbuck isn't very good. Go do something else.
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:07 am

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In post 1114, Mastermind of Sin wrote:Ugh. Scared scum or overwhelmed townie?


He's replacing out of multiple games so I suspect it is not alignment relevant ...
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:24 am

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Seraphim replaces Amrun. In other news Seraphim is amazing <3
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:25 am

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Finished ISO on
greenknight
. I don't like his entrance votes. I would understand vote based on ISO (and that would be less than 5 pages), but i don't agree with entering on page 24 and voting the leading wagon based on 5 pages. Second thing i don't like is his continued stance on Minimum, it feels like he was just trying hard to show that his vote was right in the first place, not really advancing the case or working on discovering alignment. For a change, i see his Feysal choose vote explanations as more natural (even though i have different opinion). The rest of the posts are more or less natural as well. Overall, i am not sold on him being scum, but he is suspicious enough, so my consciousness won't bug me if i CHOOSE him (the only real alternative at the moment is my weak town read).

UNCHOOSE
CHOOSE greenknight


Still no answers from those on bvoigt wagon, so instead of continuing reread i will ISO each one and read their cases on him, maybe then i will get a better picture and decide whom to vote.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:39 am

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Alright, /confirm

I have no clue whether or not I'll have time to read the thread. We'll see, I guess. In the meantime, I'll jump right in on the action with what I see on this page.

CHOOSE: greenknight

VOTE: bvoigt
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:32 am

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CHOOSE: Feysal


--

I'm trying to start to consolidate my individual reads, so here's a list of 'em. Might pester Shadoweh into doing one too.

TOWN:
26) SnowStorm
-- Feel his mason claim is legit.
2) Lyanna Stark (Tammy)
-- I think I tend to read Tammy as town regardless of alignment, but I'm pretty confident this time round that she is.
3) Mockingjaye
-- Posts seem generally solid. It's probably because she hasn't posted much, but I wasn't really aware of her existence until I ISO'd her recently (thought she had been replaced/was replacing out, or something.)
4) Dolorous Edd (Ser Arthur Dayne/bodean44)
-- Clear thought processes. I don't know why people hate hydra dissonance so much, it makes it pretty easy to get a read.
5) Staeg
-- You can trust me on this.
6) Tyene Sand (Tierce)
-- Kinda meh on her through the early game, townieness really started to kick in around post , imo.
Petyr Baelish
7) kortul
-- Regfan's convinced me here.
12) hasdgfas (now Albert B. Rampage)
-- Generally good posting, liked that he picked up on a post I felt (only after he pointed it out) was flawed in extremely subtle ways. When someone does that it always gives me a townread. I dunno. No read on ABR yet.
14) Regfan
-- Was very wary of him at the start of the game, suspicion has since faded and I feel pretty confident in my read here.
19) Mastermind of Sin
-- His posts feel barren, but ~~~events~~~ make me think he's town.
20) Plessiezarus (Zar/Plessiez)
-- see Dolorous Edd, minus the hydra dissonance and plus townpoints for good posts.
27) Jal
-- Feels town, especially when discussing previous games. Wasn't really expecting much on ISO but this read is surprisingly strong.

MEH:
1) Minimum (Mina/CES)
-- CES side of the hydra reads town, Mina side of the hydra reads scum.
9) MagnaofIllusion
-- This is weird. I like to think I can read MoI pretty well, but in my eyes he has such little presence this game that it's hard for me to discern his alignment at all.
10) Plum's Yo Mamma
-- It's not a strong conviction, but I don't like the way they pushed greenknight and especially their last few posts. Everything else seems pretty OK, it's just this one thing.
13) Shadow1psc
-- Ambivalent. Feel like I should feel strongly either way, but I don't.
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15) Amrun (now Seraphim)
-- Lack of content.
sword of omens
16) greenknight
-- Can't read him that well; picking up scummy and townie stuff (last sentence in gives me a pretty powerful town vibe, but I can't bring myself to trust it). Was content with Shadoweh's choose on him until recently.
24) Starbuck
-- Didn't really get all the early game kerfuffle, finding it hard to get a read off what she's posted so far.
25) BBmolla
-- Don't understand why he was labeled obvtown for his reaction test, doesn't seem to fit what I remember of his town play (which, admittedly, is pretty old). Feel like he should have more presence than he does. I'm pretty sure Shadoweh shares my views here.

SCUM:
21) Feysal
-- Basically all the posts where he's discussing Multiballgate are scummy. Most of his other posts seem to consist of 30% weak meta-based assertions, 40% self-explanation, 20% answering questions and 10% actual scumhunting. And then you have this shocker of a post in which Feysal says 'I only ever get accused of having inside information as town ... I have never displayed having inside information as scum' (paraphrased) -- well, firstly it depends on the people you're playing with, and secondly, it's called a 'slip' because you make it unconsciously. The way you seemed to assume it was multiball in seems to me very, very much like an unconscious act.
Hyperion
8) Shinori
-- Same recount vs. analysis problem that kortul had, but his predecessor was terrible as well. I do not like the fact that he decided to start hydraing with a buddy part way through the game one bit.
redFF
11) DCLXVI
-- Shadoweh doesn't like him and I can see where she's coming from. I find redFF's replacing out suspect.
17) Bvoigt
-- His catch-up doesn't feel particularly genuine and I like and appreciate the recent points and subsequent wagon springing up on him.
18) Benmage
-- Do not like. Doesn't match my past experiences with him, feels like he's playing to the crowd, think he could be bussing redFF/DCLXVI. Need to talk about this with Shadoweh because she disagreed here iirc.
23) Salamence20 (now Iecerint?)
-- Read has degraded from iffy a la post to downright scum. Reads feel parroted. Fluffy posts. Too defensive. His content on MoS is pure shit. I'm usually not good at distinguishing newbscum from newbtown but I think I'm on the mark here. Shadoweh disagrees, obviously. >_<
28) StefanB
-- It's hard to pinpoint exactly what's wrong with his posting, but something's definitely awry. My contains a bit about him when I address Regfan and I couldn't really put it into words that well back then, either. But I think he's scum.

No particular order.

-- Quilford

FUUUUUUUUUUUU. AND I WAS DOING SO WELL.

-- QUILFORD ARGH

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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 3:32 am

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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:25 am

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Saporovirus has agreed to Hydra with me. Saporerint is being submitted for approval.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:33 am

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Well, this process has been streamlined considerably since 2009.

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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:43 am

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Iecerint evolves into Saporerint instead (as you can see)!
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:44 am

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In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=4301257#p4301257]post 1136[/url], Quilford wrote:Hyperion8) Shinori -- Same recount vs. analysis problem that kortul had, but his predecessor was terrible as well. I do not like the fact that he decided to start hydraing with a buddy part way through the game one bit.

You don't think one would be more likely to invite their friend to play in a town game as opposed to a scum game
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:46 am

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Saporerint wagon is the correct wagon.

Unchoose
Choose: Kortul


I don't have a strong read on Feysal, but I believe I have a stronger read on Kortul, and just about everyone sees him pushing nothing but easy lynch targets. We know one is more or less town, and I know I'm town, so yeah. Bvoigt could switch to the choose wagon I guess, but for now.
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:47 am

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Unchoose
Choose: Kortul
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:57 am

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Such cheesy comments, like "just about everyone", reinforce my read on you.
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:11 am

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I'll be v/la till tuesday
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:47 am

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In post 1136, Pandora wrote:9) MagnaofIllusion -- This is weird. I like to think I can read MoI pretty well, but in my eyes he has such little presence this game that it's hard for me to discern his alignment at all.


Don't know what's more funny to me Quil ... the fact that you think you can read me well or the fact that you can't get any read off my posting this game despite thinking you can read me well.

Unchoose
Choose: Greenknight


I'd rather still have Feysal in the game than Greenknight all things being equal.

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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:50 am

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Good stuff regfan, feel better about Kortul.. post 1095


In post 1115, Feysal wrote:
In post 1009, Dolorous Edd wrote:Also, can the choice please be Feysal? Pretty please? With a cherry on top?

Too tired to continue so I'll deal with this later, but in the meantime - have a look at the people on my wagon, and what they have said about me. Then ask yourself, are you sure you want to be associated with that kind of company? The way I see it, the only reason I even have a wagon at this point is because lurkers and replacements have parked their choices on me.

Wrong.

In post 1118, Pandora wrote:Feysal, I think everyone other then you stopped caring about Starbuck twenty pages ago.

QFT

unvote vote GreenKnight.


LOOK I think a lot of people on the Sala wagon view Bvoigt town... and a lot on the Bvoigt wagon view Sala town. Shit I got a town read on Bvoigt... and I need to relook at Sala but had a town read there too..

Can't we agree on a GK wagon? We need to compromise.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 5:51 am

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MoI
what is your read on Sala?
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:16 am

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In post 1148, Benmage wrote:
MoI
what is your read on Sala?


That's he's a VI. I fully admit the players that poor are my read Kryptonite ...

If I didn't have scum reads on non-VI players like Minimum, Shadow1, bvoigt, etc I would not have hesitated to vote him if it came to it via policy.

Now that IecSapo has replaced Sala I'm confident the slot will be readable going forward.
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