A Dance with Dragons Mafia: A New Dawn!

[AurorusVox]

MoI I figured would be dead by D2 anyway. It was just an example because his is a name I remember. But yes, I was checking that the said players were dead rather than just being replaced if I had an alignment tell on them. Obv if it had been e.g. Plums Yo Momma or Minimum I'd have recalled that they've been posting now and no problemo (which also answers, yes, I remembered Timmy as posting)

I don't remember posts from him but then again he could've been V/LA since I replaced in AND I don't remember every single one of the 14 players that are alive. I can list maybe six?

I am at my best when reading RVS. So it was more useful to read page 3 than page 103, for example.

[Tyene Sand]

More fire and pitchforks: at page 3, this is what calls AV's attention:

VOTE: Minimum

Choose: MoI

Choose: Feysal

Obviously

someone

knows a little too much.

Or is there a post saying this is multiball????

Salamence's next post was over 100 posts later, so it's obviously no longer page 3:

I dont see the slip...

How come that, excluding other players you actually 'noticed' as 'dead', this is what calls the most attention to you in the game on page 3, when several players were voting Feysal for a multiball comment and the way he made it?

It reeks of posturing.


Like... what even attracted your attention from those two posts? I don't care if the slot is dead, I want an explanation here. If you are at your best when reading RVS, show your work. There has been a lot of boasting about finding obvscum and no explanation for it.

[Eddard Stark]

Ireland are playing the Faroe Islands atm.

Day 5, Votecount 8

Thor665 (1) - Minimum
Timeater (2) - Magua, kortul
Zdenek (2) - 4nx3ty, Thor665
Magua (1) - Timeater

AurorusVox (4) - Zdenek, Plums Yo Mamma, Tyene Sand, BBmolla

Not Voting (5):

Shinori, Regfan, Regfan , Pandora, AurorusVox

With 14 alive and 1 living dead it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline

: 25th October at 19:30pm Ireland time. (GMT+1)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2012-10-25 14:30:02)

[AurorusVox]

He calls someone out for knowing too much, but doesn't move off his RVS vote.

[Regfan]

AV, what's this then:

Choose: MoI

Choose: Feysal

[Tyene Sand]

Day 1, Votecount 2

MagnaofIllusion (4) - Starbuck, Benmage, pappums rat, Shadow1psc
Mastermind of Sin (1) - sword_of_omens

Starbuck (6) - Dolorous Edd, Tyene Sand, Staeg, Minimum, Plums Yo Mamma, Feysal

SnowStorm (1) - Plessiezarus
Minimum (3) - MagnaofIllusion, Salamence20, hasdgfas

Not Voting (13):

Lyanna Stark, mockingjaye, Petyr Baelish, Hyperion, redFF, Regfan, bvoigt, Mastermind of Sin, Pandora, BBmolla, SnowStorm, Jal, StefanB

CHOOSE LIFE?

MagnaofIllusion (3) - Minimum, sword_of_omens, MagnaofIllusion
Benmage (1) - Benmage
Tyene Sand (1) - Feysal
Dolorous Edd (2) - hasdgfas, Plums Yo Mamma

Feysal (4) - Tyene Sand, Dolorous Edd, Salamence20, BBmolla

Hasdgfas (1) - Shadow1psc

Not Choosing (16):

Lyanna Stark, mockingjaye, Staeg, Petyr Baelish, Hyperion, redFF, Regfan, pappums rat, bvoigt, Mastermind of Sin, Plessiezarus, Pandora, Starbuck, SnowStorm, Jal, StefanB

You read Page 1. You know of the Choose mechanic. Dolorous Edd and myself left votes elsewhere and

Chose

Feysal; Salamence's Choose added weight to that wagon and wouldn't have done so with a Feysal-vote because there was no Feysal lynch-wagon, just a Choose-wagon. So, why was the still-on-RVS vote on

frigging page 3

scummier than

anything else

you saw until then, or

anything else

you have seen Yesterday and Today?

It just doesn't add up. It's fake, it's forced.

[AurorusVox]

You're using choose on scumreads?! It gives an extra kill? MoI self-chose. Are you telling me it belongs on scummy players?!

[Regfan]

If you actually read the first three pages you'll see agreement on people choosing their scum-reads. I don't buy that you don't know that.

Very very very happy with an AV lynch right now. Potentially even the point where claiming may hold of to tomorrow.

Still want to do the reading on the 3-4 players left to go through so give me a day or two before we actually do lynch.

[AurorusVox]

Reg, do you really think I properly read 3 pages in 3 minutes?

[Regfan]

It was the main and nearly only topic for the first 3 pages.

[Tyene Sand]

Dear Mother, the flailing...

Yes, you are expected to have read three pages thoroughly and take a lot more than 3 minutes if you are crosschecking the people who are posting with the people who are alive or dead. THAT is when you were supposed to know about the Choosing mechanic. It was evident people were using it on scumreads, and it was really clear that Salamence was doing that to Feysal as a scumread.

Rope please.

[AurorusVox]

I posted within 3 minutes of my previous post.
I'm saying I was reading in a highly excitable and skimmering state.

[AurorusVox]

*sigh*

I think I might need some milk of the poppy for all the damage I've caused myself...
The bare-faced shame of it all

[Plums Yo Mamma]

Potentially even the point where claiming may hold of to tomorrow.

speaking of which, there's no way in hell we're claiming ever
mod is going to confirm our alignment at the end of this day, which means that you'll know we aren't fakeclaiming so
fuck that

[Minimum]

Almost entirely unrelated to latest developments.

Unvote, vote: AV

[Pandora]

We've proven that AV can't read, but can someone point to where this is him being caught? This argument seems kind of overblown and the two lists have confused me before too. I think AV should just keep reading and catch up, even if he does get lynched he can still gives us opinionz about what he thinks. Maybe he'll remember how to sound townie while he's reading. :D

##Vote: Thor665

[Plums Yo Mamma]

You're using choose on scumreads?! It gives an extra kill? MoI self-chose. Are you telling me it belongs on scummy players?!

this is the part of shenanigans that I did not like.
if you thought salamence was scummy for not moving his vote, wouldn't it be waaaay scummier if you saw him call someone else out for knowing too much and then choosing him for his top town read?

but yeah, we can lynch Lemon whenever.
i'll probably be dead tomorrow, but w/e.
we had a good run.

[Regfan]

Okay, finally took the time to look at the things I wanted to. Not sure where I was getting Jal/Thor non-aegon but interactions fit so the 'Thor doesn't fit as any alignment' is probably wrong. Still very much wanting AV lynched over him though. Went back and did a re-look over Timeater and really not liking his current play at all, his complete lack of comment on Lyanna flipping town is unsettling. Also given that Maguas point about Feysal/his slots interaction and feysal likely not knowing partners him fitting again for both alignment means he's probably worth looking into, especially given that feysal really didn't push back on him at all when it looked like it was pluasibly a Feysal vs Timeater wagon battle. I still feel good about Magua, his play and scumhunting feels genuine and matches his TownMeta but by no means would I bet the game on him actually being town. Have similarish feelings about Minimum, except a lot more of wanting Mina to post and disliking how she hasn't even made an attempt to make an appearance of late, seems content letting CES cruise on the slot which isn't really what I'd expect of TownMina, either way her not fitting as Aegon and suspecting AV a lot more means she's another days looking into.

So about where I am right now I'd say not to lynch BBMolla, 4nxiety, Pandora, Zdenek, Tyene, Kortul, Shinori (Possibly lesserso than the others) in the upcoming days and to lynch inside of Timeater, Minimum, Thor and Magua in that order of preference but I'd say looking at interactions with flipped scum and them again later on when there's more flips even is really key and crucial.

Happy to lynch AV now.

Vote: AV

Vote: AV

That's L-1.

[Eddard Stark]

Prodding shinori

[Eddard Stark]

Reek rhymes with sleek.

Day 5, Votecount 9

Thor665 (1) - Pandora
Timeater (2) - Magua, kortul
Zdenek (2) - 4nx3ty, Thor665
Magua (1) - Timeater

AurorusVox (7) - Zdenek, Plums Yo Mamma, Tyene Sand, BBmolla, Minimum, Regfan, Regfan

Not Voting (2):

Shinori, AurorusVox

With 14 alive and 1 living dead it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline

: 25th October at 19:30pm Ireland time. (GMT+1)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2012-10-25 14:30:02)

[Plums Yo Mamma]

Magua

If you ever do that, I am strangling you to death with whatever the hell you guys have in Australia to strangle people with.
No.

[Plums Yo Mamma]

I also have no fucking clue how many scum there will be, but if we lynch like 6 of those fuckers and the game is still going, then we can lynch Minimum. But not 'till then.

[4nxi3ty]

see no reason to fight an AV lynch, but:

Anxiety is an acceptable lynch, primarily because of MockingJaye's 1274.

Secondly, it had nothing to do with you thinking that I am town. The fact that you are suggesting that it is means that you haven't actually read my posts, where I clearly state that MockingJaye actually looks pretty good when it comes to having clearly stated suspicions.

his original reason for being okay with my lynch was mjaye posted something scummy yet now he is saying he changed his mind because mjaye's posting looked good. It doesn't add up. If I die tonight, hopefully someone will follow up on this tommorow.

[Regfan]

4nxiety, Zdenek has been relatively clear about what his thoughts on that slot is lately, he initially had a gut-town read on her and stated that her potential to be on both scum-teams is fairly null for him since he thinks it's just her being inactive regardless of alignment. His change of opinion on that towards the 'acceptable lynch because of #1274' has to do with her stating she'd re-read people who flipped scum but never getting around to it while voting what I think were counterwagons to the flipped scum. I think with him it's a battle of finding her suspicions to be genuine as well as her posting vs bad comments on scum.

Nacho, I'd agree that Magua is probably town but the issue is PoE means someone has to be scum and given that there's 4 flipped scum and likely another 4 who fits that bill? AV, that's one. Timeater probably, that's two. Minimum or Thor maybe more likely Mininum, that's a third likely, where's the scum? Tell me please.

[Thor665]

Well obviously one or two are in the 'lawl, of course this player is town' crowd because that's the way the game works.