Micro 95- The Beehive Mystery 2.5

[Naomi-Tan]

Talking to a blue flame sprite It told me that voting theslimer3 was a good idea, but the flowers told me not to and that the fire was miss leading me so when I was distracted they could eat the flowers SO

VOTE: mozamis

Because I don't listen to flames :3

[Naomi-Tan]

Siv♥, Can you explain more why Jmo caught your attention?

[Naomi-Tan]

Lincolm✿, Nostalgia is one way of putting It, I guess...

It's a completely inconsequential thing that jmo took too much attention to.

I'm fairly sure naomi's symbols are indicative of her read/opinion on somebody.

laughing at the memories of an old game? I don't think that was a kind of attention that is bad..

[Naomi-Tan]

Hi Siv
Hi Naomi
Hi Orcinus
Hi Slimer

Vote : xtopherusD

Pretty sure you're one of very few people to ever spell my name correctly.

I'm assuming this to be a case of both buddying and excessive tunneling. You're now officially

second

on my ToVoteForList^TM until further notice.

Can I ask if you was serious about the tunneling and buddying comment? (im slowly working forward right now.

[Naomi-Tan]

Double Day Unlimited - linclom: what does that mean

[Naomi-Tan]

back from holidays, Writing up a post to catch up now...

[Naomi-Tan]

back from holidays, Writing up a post to catch up now...

hi

Hi, still righting on page 4, while your here;

Also
VOTE: xtopherusD
10: Don't like friends?
4: Later posts insinuate that Siv is on your to vote for list. Care to expand?

I know him to be completely apathetic in games. The second one was because of his conscious use of AtE, which I see as a possible scumtell.

what does these posts mean?

[Naomi-Tan]

Lincolm♣

- I'm currently thinking scum, the last game I played with him (Perfect town game! ) he felt different than he does now.. GUt scum reads

JMO♥

- I never thought of them as really scummy. I liked the questions and would likely asked them in his position even if you guys thought it was fluffy, you can never have too much information, but recovered well and seams to be contributing okay. Also, page 6 now, Calm the fruit bat down D: no need to use bad words :/

orcinus_theoriginal ♠

-

Tell me the scum intention behind 'attacking everyone'. Sure, it might be ineffective town behavior, but how is it scummy?

I dislike how he is attacking everything he see's It feels like he is tossing out suspicions left right and centre and seeing what sticks, (bandwagon hunting) though this may be there play-style.

Umbrage✿

- way way too enthusatsic about getting people on the

slimer✿

waggon, kinda threw me off when I read her and was like, huh? I don't like it when I see someone like, cheer leading votes unless they have pretty much confirmed someone as scum (like they announce watcher results)

xtopherusD✿

- getting kinda a null read here, dont know why but I just can't place them.. mabye its just my head getting burnt out from too many posts.

theslimer3✿

- I'm getting a bad impression off of them, there first post was obviously RVS but there post on page 3, after RVS had been over for quite a while didn't comment on any of the stuff that happened on page one, and i'm not sure if jokingly or seriously, but they went for a minor offence on

orcinus_theoriginal♠

(problerably as a joke) The RVS ended a while back and anyone who had been reading would of known that.

Slimer✿

, you also said your confident in your

JMO✿

vote, but you never provided any reasoning about why you thought they was suspicious, Please explain why

JMO✿

was suspicious to you on page 3.
However, when I get to page 7,

slimer✿

says something that makes me pretty much flip my entire thoughts on him, rather than going for the easy(ish) lynch, he makes a pretty good attempt to try and stop that lynch (might be saving buddy, but dunno yet) a scum member wouldn't attempt to stop a train on a townie, so should

XTO ✿

flip town, he will look all the better.
mozamis♣, what parts did you think was right about

slimers✿

post? why did you choose to defend someone who had contributed nothing but jokes-fluff and hadn't even given reasons out?

JMO✿

Same question as mozamis♣.
I like how

Siv♦

is acting, I dunno why I like it, but it seams pretty good (GUT!)(Page 7)

Wild thories tell me a

slimer✿

/

orcinus_theoriginal♠

Team is might happen, with that early distancing which took me by surprise and there independent behaviour since, but that last

Slimer✿

comment changes the feild for me alot

Cool, if there any inconsistancys in my reads, I wrote this from page 2 and added bits and changed bits, so may have changed reads every now and then

[Naomi-Tan]

I guess I could vote for either of you or Orc's, but Im just not feeling it .. if that makes sense... (plus im not sure/too lazy to check the L-X on Orc's)

@ Orc - is your vote on Slimer based only on personal dislike?
And why the vote for Topher and then the almost immediate unvote? Do you think he is slimer's scum buddy?

@Umbrage - what do you find wrong about Slimer's Fos? To me it just seems a case of Slimer OMGUSing Orc's original OMGUS. I don't agree with slimer, but it does seem understandable. Why do you think it is scummy?

[Naomi-Tan]

I didn't understand what the posts say, you used weird terms :s

I quoted 61 in response to mozamis♣

[Naomi-Tan]

VOTE:

VOTE: orcinus_theoriginal ♠

okay, your not L-1 :3 thanks vote-count

Yes, like that word.

[Naomi-Tan]

opsy... so things of note, dont need to write vote in vote tagg.

[Naomi-Tan]

Yeah, but I was scum in that game, so I wouldn't of paided attention to flip-flop voting, its not something I usally pick up on even as town :/

[Naomi-Tan]

Im still pretty sure jmo is town, I've only played one other game with them, but they just feel very townish to me :/

[Naomi-Tan]

Long story short,

Umbrage✿

hates us all.


Okay, so lets break this down, quote by quote.

The first part - I can see both sides of that argument, They did take it back, but only when called up on it, so the action to make someone else was there and even scum when caught out like that would recall it and try and play that part down stream, on the other hand people do make mistakes and remember things incorrectly.

Second part - Well... I care where you place your vote, as do others, votes generate pressure which makes the person more likely to show there true alignment either by slip up or other means, however, a vote alone is pretty notable, it needs to be heavily backed up and supported to hold much weight.

Third / forth parts - no comment.. thats for them to answer really

firth & seventh part -

Umbrage✿

I hate when people don't read stuff, you just declared, that a post, the first real one I had made in 6 or 5 pages, isn't even worth reading, that shows major lack of interest on what you think of others opinions. combining this with the part saying im going to be useless all game, does not paint a pretty picture, as you said you wont read the heavy content, but the little stuff that is pretty fluffy you will read.

sixth part - Thats not correct IMO, people use caps to disaply anger and frustration, Italics very much a fit a 'wait-what' moment, as your surprised that you havn't moved it, but its not a problem or anything. plus, he has been attacking them for a while, I don't think its a problem that they didn't give a big reason given what else they have said

Eighth part & ninth- lots of swears, great to see an informative break down of why that post is bad.

tenth, - Good point, well not really, but draws attention to something I should of noticed earlier. Mozamis♣, why you trying LaL? Isn't there lots of information on most people right now? isn't there a better vote you could be doing? or are you not finding enough scummy behaviour to place a vote on?

Eleventh, like 8/9, needs more information.

[Naomi-Tan]

QFT

whats QFT?

[Naomi-Tan]

Awkward board silence..

[Naomi-Tan]

Because, your attacking pretty much everyone, and change attack targets too quickly, I also don't like how out-rageously aggressive you are towards everyone, plus you have miss represented people.

[Naomi-Tan]

yeah, post 180, did tell you what scum intentions behind attacking everyone is.
Just because your not voting doesn't mean your not pushing IMO, by suppiling evidence angist people you make other people more likely to vote there, and also it gives you a defence of not being on the miss-lynch train.
(yes I know two words are spelt incorrectly, spell check wasn't giving me the correction)

and because it was asked, I still think

Siv♦

is town.

[Naomi-Tan]

Im too sleepy to properly analyse anything, but.. I'd like to take a moment to step away from the hunt a little to address the rather nasty arua going around this game.. with everyone getting angry at everyone and stuff... Its not a nice environment to read or play in..

I guess what im asking is for us to step down the anger and stuff... TBH, Its putting me off reading and .. well.. its the main reason I didn't post today.. as everytime I went to read I thought about what was going on and the atmosphere was getting and it just wasn't a nice/fun thing...

maybe im being too sensitive.. oh well.. I'll re-attempt to read the days posts in the morning.

[Naomi-Tan]

#205
mozamis♣
This post is worrying, not because its true, but when I ISO'd back, I found that he placed the vote by the process of elimination, giving no reason for the vote at the time, and has tunnelled Mage to this time (over 100 posts) It kinda looks like he is rail-roading but not pushing too hard so its not noticed and changing off them when they realise its not going to happen. of course, thats the worst case, they could have also realised they was town.

orcinus_theoriginal ♠

VS

xtopherusD✿

Im ignoring this argument. I don't wanna get involved in it

@

orcinus_theoriginal ♠

Siv♦

just tends to act this way as town.. Its largely a gut feeling..

I agree that

JMO✿

should either replace, or V/LA, its not fair for us to have to have this kinda thing in a game, we need more voices out there to settle some of these long-going arguments.

VOTE:

Umbrage✿

Policy vote, for voting for someone they think is town.

Umbrage✿

You don't know

Siv♦

is scum unless you are scum, please don't stop explaining things, even if the person you are explaining to is on your scum list, the fact remains that townies can still use that information.

UNVOTE:

Umbrage✿

For removing her vote, yes I could of removed it from this post, but I thought it was more relevant not to. (gives my views on things ect.)

theslimer3✿

There is a good reason I don't choose bright shades of green XD, lets part break this again!
#260
part 1, I think that point is pretty much dropped, I havn't seen any signs of

orcinus_theoriginal ♠

brining up his attack on you since the first few posts that flared out into this huge stuff
part 2, I agree with not voting when someone tells you, But could you supply a reason for not voting?
part 3, True, LaL is a good policy, but not really a thing I like to see on D1 with so much going on, though.. if uber, moz, xto and orc are all town, scum have this day in the bag :/
part 4, don't understand this.. needs more explaining.
part 5, ending the day? mabye? dunno... Can you tell me?

#261
Part 1, The quote is; "you are a sad strange little man" - toy story
Part 2, Good question
Part 3, Yes - nothing more to say but yes, agreed
Part 4, Dunno, I've not looked back at

Umbrage✿

at this point (who I called mage as a nick-name?)
Part 5, I'd disagree, I was on a scum team where me and the other person DID NOT get along, we attacked each other till my death, and then sailed to the end game without a flaw because of how hard they pushed on me, we ended up winning that game.
Part 6, Whats float voting, It sounds very imporant. Going to the oringal post mozamis♣ makes a good point, if you consider only 2 people to be lynches your not looking at everyone correctly, and might exclude a comment by someone else who your not focused on to continue your lynch.
Part 7, Could of done with spoiler-ing that quote, seriously. Could you explain what you mean more here?

[Naomi-Tan]

orcinus_theoriginal ♠ VS xtopherusD✿
Im ignoring this argument. I don't wanna get involved in it



why

Too hard for me to understand it.. reading it just gets me confused.

[Naomi-Tan]

I'm not stupid, im smart for my age.. but thats a tangled web of stuff that when I try to work out how it effects your alignments It just make my head hurt.

[Naomi-Tan]

You have no right to have a pony avatar.. you fail so hard at love and tolerance its not even funny..

[Naomi-Tan]

VOTE: Umbrage

I'd prefer to have a lynch. Is a jerk. Not changing anything when it's obviously hurting people. Especially since there are most likely three times as many town players being hurt than scums. Doesn't bother to change even when people point it out. Has useless tunnel vision that isn't helping

Yeah, I don't like them either, and It really got to me.. L-1

[Naomi-Tan]

umbrage is a double voter

Fixed.

[Naomi-Tan]

okay... depending on the flip.. Think siv/Ubermage team..

[Naomi-Tan]

well, with the unvote, if you was scum, and they removed there vote which was ealier placed than us, then it might allow 50/50 chance to save there buddy.

[Naomi-Tan]

I think town has a really poor harmony right now.. Its still off-putting.

The JMO lynch is just way TOO easy at this point, time pressure or not.

[Naomi-Tan]

Well, I just voted Uber on the attitude.. But I agree.. In this game all of town hasn't really balanced at all... Its like we are tearing everyone apart at once, no one is really town. there is enough 1v1 fights going on that are just not resolving ever, its just painful to play in... not to sound defeatist, but I don't think we will be able to win at this rate... we need to pull together and get it under control. I mean, can you guys really say that there has been a real person(s) who has been the most likely lynchee of the day, cause when I look at it, everyone has been pretty much after everyone, the entire game has been filled with Discord...

[Naomi-Tan]

Oh, JMO is also the worst person to lynch cause Im the only person speaking up for them, so its not going to say anything about anyone but me :I

[Naomi-Tan]

.... hello? what are you alting here?

[Naomi-Tan]

dude, just replace out if your not gonna do anything jeez!

[Naomi-Tan]

Cool, give me some reasons.

[Naomi-Tan]

Jmo is going to give us the least information though..

[Naomi-Tan]

VOTE: jmo16mla

Okay, I've had it with your excuses half arsed responses ect. your not playing.

[Naomi-Tan]

Look you been making excusing from the moment we started you have no one to blame but your self, I been defending your lurking in the vain hope that you might contribute, but your inactivity and refusal to replace got you into this mess. You made your bed now sleep in it.

[Naomi-Tan]

this is your own fault, and you had a post between my hammer, you could of claimed, but didn't.

[Naomi-Tan]

this is your own fault, and you had a post between my hammer, you could of claimed, but didn't.

[Naomi-Tan]

I didn't check L-1, but its still your own fault I voted for you. Maybe I should of calmed down before voting, but I was so angry at the time that I just wanted you gone.

[Naomi-Tan]

yeah well... I didn't read your post.. I saw his excuse about replacing into ANOTHER game and hammered.

[Naomi-Tan]

yeah I admit, I was wrong to hammer like that.. I kinda flipped out... as proved by that sprout of hate that I fired directly into him after it.

[Naomi-Tan]

So... xtopherusD is now town :3

[Naomi-Tan]

yeah, that death means that scum probably was gonna frame him.

[Naomi-Tan]

Scum wouldn't push so hard on a townie like that. If they did when they got lynched they'd die the next day 100% the NK is a trick.

[Naomi-Tan]

slimer is town to me now :3
there content improved drammtically at the end of the day and they are pretty good, judging by the way they repeated what I said.

[Naomi-Tan]

Yeah, I was kinda stupid not checking and all... And I know what you mean about feeling more suspicious too.

I'm staying with what I said at the start.. I am sure there town.

[Naomi-Tan]

Vote counted for you guys :3

xtopherusD[3] Umbrage,Nachomamma8, Siveure DtTrikyp
mozamis[1] xtopherusD

[Naomi-Tan]

So... xtopherusD is now town :3

well, he looked quite town anyway, but yeah Orc's death helps him.

UNVOTE
VOTE SIV

The fact that he did not vote near the lynch reeks of nervous scum to me.

So then... Mos said that xtopherusD was looking pretty town before the kill and the kill helped him even more. Then votes for him. Is It me or is that kinda... EXTREMELY scummy? Moving to the train as it builds momentum and all.

[Naomi-Tan]

welp there goes the last shred of sanity this group had

[Naomi-Tan]

Cool, you keep voting that way. Right now I think either Siv or Moz is scum, but xtoph is town. Yeah.. I have kinda lurked.. I'm just not seeing an xtoph lynch in anyway and have said everything I can there, so been like; Welp.. *shrug*

[Naomi-Tan]

erm.. surely the refusal to change wagons is a Pro-Town thing, like; why vote for someone you think is town, when you think theres a scum right there.

NK, his pushing all yesterday, and his incisiveness.

[Naomi-Tan]

Maestro You stalking me...

[Naomi-Tan]

...I also voted umbrage cause of that though... you know what they say about glass houses :s

[Naomi-Tan]

K then, thats preety scummy... switching wagons at the end there to put someone L-1 ... but honestly, I don't think I could vote someone for killing Jmo, he was so anti-town that I exploded and backlashed on him (as much as I could anyway)

[Naomi-Tan]

yeah, Im looking at a moz and siv team, but have no edvidence, its just what my gut is telling me :s

[Naomi-Tan]

I have no idea :s I just do.

[Naomi-Tan]

... He has a point.

[Naomi-Tan]

you know the whole; its quiet too quiet thing..? yeah that..

[Naomi-Tan]

I could probably be talked into voting nacho just like I could probably be talked into voting you or Naomi, but I'd rather leave my vote here

I miss slimer...

[Naomi-Tan]

Attucally, I've just said all I want to about xtop, and don't really have strong enough reads on you to vote, so im just seeing what happens.

[Naomi-Tan]

Cool... So basicly Bacde is Town.

[Naomi-Tan]

Like, what about them?

Theslimer read VI to me--I had to do a lot of guessing as to why theslimer had the reads that he did since it wasn't really explained that often. Either way I think my reads are different except about xtopher who I think theslimer didn't want to lynch either.

Slimer seemed ...fun though

More votes on Siv please--Seriously I don't see myself being happy with any other lynch and I don't want to start second guessing myself

basicly that post and my already given soild town read I had

[Naomi-Tan]

there are still at least 2 scum alive, lynching anyone wouldn't win the game

[Naomi-Tan]

you know how I feel. im more inclinded for Siveure DtTrikyp than xtop, and tommorow Ill put my vote on Siveure DtTrikyp.

[Naomi-Tan]

... I hate you Umbrage
VOTE: Siveure its technically tommorow...

I suppose the reason is I think xtop is town and Siv is likely the scum member after his lynch.

[Naomi-Tan]

the hammer never falls because siv is lazy, topher is survivalistic, and naomi is stubborn

I think we are making progress

[Naomi-Tan]

you know the whole; its quiet too quiet thing..? yeah that..

[Naomi-Tan]

shrug. and think "I told you so"

[Naomi-Tan]

@Mod Vote Count please :3