Micro 151: Mafia in New-Newbie Land (Game over!)

[Majiffy]

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[borkjerfkin]

Get fucked dude

help me

[Majiffy]

I don't remember why I'm voting Wisdom but it was probably a good reason at the time so anyone not voting Wisdom should hop on.

[Mac]

Where did you explain it?

[Majiffy]

Bork I've had 2 hours of sleep over the past 3 days and I'm staying up late again tonight, my brain isn't functioning on a high enough level to help you do anything but tell you to sheep me.

[Majiffy]

Where did you explain it?

Probably somewhere in my ISO. Why don't you go look?

[Mac]

I was ninja'd about a million times: was talking to bork.

[borkjerfkin]

(You sheeped me onto Wisdom)

And now I have cold feet because there is no bastion of towniness anywhere this game.

@Mac -- 323, 328.

[Majiffy]

(You sheeped me onto Wisdom)

And now I have cold feet because there is no bastion of towniness anywhere this game.

Did

you

at least have a good reason, then?

I just want day phase to end so I can start Neighorizin' bitches tbh.

[Wisdom]

VOTE: Mac

The reads Mac gave:
Not liking Pala for this
Not liking elvis for that
Liking mothrax for this
Not liking mothrax for that
Liking bork for this
Not liking bork for this
Votes bork.

He essentially cancels his reads after he gives them; and the vote on Bork has poor reasoning.
He doesn't want to vote me because I'm the top wagon, so he settles for Bork.

[Mac]

What a shit vote.

At no point did I say I did not like Mothrax for "that" - instead I said it made me doubt my reads and explained why.I also never said I liked bork at all,only that he raised a good point and then I voted for him (will get to that in aminute) - so you are totally misrepping me.

And then you top it off by saying because I didn't jump onto the hottest wagon, I'm scum. That is simply ridiculous.

[Mac]

(You sheeped me onto Wisdom)

And now I have cold feet because there is no bastion of towniness anywhere this game.

@Mac -- 323, 328.

I'm not asking why you voted for Pala. I'm asking the posts which made you reverse your reads.

My case against you is this;

This is why Pala is town

Meanwhile Jiffy doesn't like the intent to hammer so early, isn't sure about Xegarus' alignment (which is fine at this stage in general) but doesn't remove his vote

You say Pala is town and then point out Majiffy is acting strange: you are pretty much calling him scummy without actually saying it. Pala then has a series of reasonable poor posts which she explains and you end with:

Meh. I think I believe you.

Despite this read on Majiffy, you make no mention of him doing anything townie but start building upto actually following his lead (/inb4flowchartshit)

If this lack of activity continues to deadline I'm just gonna sheep Majiffy.

You've made no indication of Pala being scum and Majiffy being town at all in your posts until Pala says that your slip says you might not be town. You don't actually provide a case and when you do, it's VERY weak.

In #323 you say it's mainly sheeping Majiffy who you think is town DESPITE giving no indication towards this especially considering the only thing he's been saying is "VOTE PALA! SHEEP ME!"

Your second point is also rubbish, you've already admitted you feel Pala is pretty newb to this and now you're saying that he was "testing the waters" to see if anyone would join a bork vote. Why would he do that when Wisdom pointed out the slip and he can just sheep and blame Wisdom for it?

Then you absolutely ignore Pala asking why you think Majiffy is town - is that because you can't explain it?

To summarise: bork's case is not only weak, but contradictory to his earlier reads with no indication of them changing at all in his posts.

[Jake from State Farm]

Can we lynch wisdom already?

[Wisdom]

Can we lynch wisdom already?

Any particular reason you want to lynch town?

[Mac]

Do you want to remove your vote from me orrr..?

[Wisdom]

Why should I do that?

[borkjerfkin]

So did that case exist in your mind when you initially voted me? Because if so, you didn't mention it (and why not?), and if not, well, I don't like how you just happen to know you'd want to make a case against the player you initially voted for a crap reason.

Also re: your case. Yes I have wishy-washy reads this game. Pala's done some town things and some scum things. #288 screamed to me at the time that he was prepping to be the third or fourth vote on me if that wagon gained any traction, and he backed way the hell off when I pressured him about it. #317 shows that he might actually believe not paying attention is scum sort of scumtell (it's not) which throws my earlier argument into doubt.

As for Majiffy, he's been almost the only person considering the entire player list in his posts (although Jake's been pretty good about that since replacing in). This is a combination of meta and gut for me. He's done some goofy shit this game too, but he's not pushing an agenda that I can see. The "forgetting why he's voting wisdom" thing is a towntell for anyone but him -- Majiffy is one of those players who tries to forget his alignment in games -- and therefore I have to take it as a null tell.

But seriously, I think I'm being pretty damn obvious that I'm just trying to figure the game out and failing.

[Mac]

Why should I do that?

Any particular reason you want to lynch town?

HEY I CAN DO THAT TOO!

The real reason is you case makes ZERO sense and is based around misreps

[Jake from State Farm]

Can we lynch wisdom already?

Any particular reason you want to lynch town?

I'm trying to lynch scum...

[Jake from State Farm]

the vote on Bork has poor reasoning.

those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...

[Wisdom]

@Mac
I can see no solid reads coming from you.
Can you make it clear what your reads are?

@Jake
Then you have to look elsewhere.
Read on Mac? Read on bork?

[Mac]

Bork the sentence before I say stop sheeping Majiffy mentions it and asks you why.

Also:

I'm honestly surprised anyone has a huge townread on Majiffy at this point. His Xegarus hop is not something I expect from his town meta.

[Jake from State Farm]

Then you have to look elsewhere.
Read on Mac? Read on bork?

you are like the kind of bad reasoning votes. pretty much every vote this game has had poor reasoning.

mac - null, mostly cause CE was inactive.
Bork - town

[Mac]

I'm honestly surprised anyone has a huge townread on Majiffy at this point. His Xegarus hop is not something I expect from his town meta.

Leaning town;

mothrax
Xeg

Null;

Majiffy
Jake
Pala
Wisdom (null-scum cus of your poor vote on me)
elvis (null-scum again)

Leaning scum;

bork

now you.

[Wisdom]

@Jake
CE was inactive, but Mac has posted and even made a case. Don't you have a lean either way based on his posts?