Open 529 -- Picking Simplicity -- Game Over

[Svenskt Stål]

Is this correct Wake?

1. you offer yourself to be lynched so we wont lynch a power role

2. you argue that you now cant be lynched since only a VT would do what you did

[Wake1]

I think you are probably town Wake but your play is making it hard for town to focus on scum hunting. As for any insinuation, there was none. I was merely making an observation. On this site you are still very new and when many of the longer time players make comments, there are reasons.

That is what Dashie means by you being antitown. You are drawing all the attention to yourself which lets the scum hide in the background and not have to do anything to try to pretend to be town.

Town is free to persue their own hunts side by side with me. Perhaps our strategies could mesh.

We would do well to note those Scum hapless enough to hide in background. Have you noticed anyone doing so?

[Wake1]

Is this correct Wake?

1. you offer yourself to be lynched so we wont lynch a power role

2. you argue that you now cant be lynched since only a VT would do what you did

1. Yes. However, it becomes more effective with consecutive days.

2. No. You said that. Nowhere have I said they can't lynch me. They can, though from my view that wouldn't be good for Town.

[Svenskt Stål]

1. So a VT should sacrifice himself each day?

2. So we should lynch you today?

[BoroPhil]

Phil I think they mean you when they keep saying BP.

appears so, but I now seem to have one vote for advocating a "policy lynch" when I did no such thing and now another seemingly random one? I know it's hard but I think some people are struggling to keep up with the replacing

[BoroPhil]

Wake, you never really answered my initial question, well you brushed it off. let's say you were scum in this game. wouldn't you be doing exactly what you are doing now to appear town, particularly as someone said your meta was thus?

[Wake1]

1. So a VT should sacrifice himself each day?

2. So we should lynch you today?

1.1) No. It is up to them. I volunteered. If I die, another can.
1.2) I'm not liking how you're subtly distorting my answers.

2) You can. But it'd be unwise, and I know you shouldn't today.

[Svenskt Stål]

If its unwise then doesnt that disporve your strategy?

[Wake1]

Wake, you never really answered my initial question, well you brushed it off. let's say you were scum in this game. wouldn't you be doing exactly what you are doing now to appear town, particularly as someone said your meta was thus?

In general I'm fucking devious as Scum. Please pardon my emphasis. I play better as Scum. As Town, you have to work with various people and, well, some piss you off.

If I were Scum this game, no way in hell would I be doing what I'm doing especially since there's a Cop. One major difference between Town and Scum is that Scum has to be selfish in order to survive. They'r not going to take one for the team to help Town.

Only I know what my meta is. Disregard everything else.

If I were Scum I'd not roleclaim unless at L-1, or even replace out deliberately. I would post big reads and appear helpful, like some have done here.

[Wake1]

If its unwise then doesnt that disporve your strategy?

Again, either you're not reading, or you're Scum trying to distort what's been said. Knock it off.

Lynching me Day 1 would be unwise (because I know I'm Town), and because my plan becomes more effective with passing Days. It doesn't disprove my strategy at all. You can mislynch me to protect a PR from getting lynched now, or you can do so later when it is more critical.

[Svenskt Stål]

Allright.

[don_johnson]

wake: please stop. say something useful. we get it. you're town. so am I. so is everyone else.

i'm sticking with my vote.

[BoroPhil]

my god, Rainbowdash's ISO

everypony, anypony, whatapony

seriously, you need to come back and explain that vote or I'm going to omguspony you

[JacobSavage]

"Oh my god you suck pony" ....

[Aeronaut]

I need to replace out

, got a lot of RL stuff going on, got to cut down games. sorry!

[Nobody Special]

Searching for a replacement for Aeronaut.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.12

Loranthaceae - 3 - jmo16mla, RachMarie, Maenara
Skullduggery - 3 - elleheathen, Aeronaut, Svenskt Stål
BoroPhil - 2 - Rainbowdash, Antihero
don_johnson - 2 - uctriton00, Skelda
Maenara - 2 - aptil, Loranthaceae
Brian Skies - 1 - Titus
elleheathen - 1 - Skullduggery
JacobSavage - 1 - BoroPhil
jmo16mla - 1 - Evil Regals
Svenskt Stål - 1 - don_johnson
Wake88 - 1 - JacobSavage

Not Voting: Wake88, Brian Skies

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-11 11:43:19)

V/LA: ...

[jmo16mla]

"Oh my god you suck pony" ....

again... JS scum after the person im voting.

[Wake1]

Regarding BoroPhil, Don Johnson and Maenara... Which of those three most deserve to be lynched.

@ those three: Would any of you be willing to claim at L-1?

[Skelda]

Good golly this game is muddled! It is a mess! Wake, can you just like...not post? I can't speak for the others, but now that you are confirmed, I would prefer it if you just never posted. That'd be fine by me, make this game a bit less overwhelming.

VOTE: BP. I don't even remember who I suspected before all these confusing replacements showed up.

[jmo16mla]

you don't claim at L-1. you claim when someone has intent to hammer

[don_johnson]

or you could claim at L-1. it really depends on the situation. at times there can even be a case made to not claim at all, or to claim at L-2, 3, 4, whatever.

[Wake1]

Good golly this game is muddled! It is a mess! Wake, can you just like...not post? I can't speak for the others, but now that you are confirmed, I would prefer it if you just never posted. That'd be fine by me, make this game a bit less overwhelming.

VOTE: BP. I don't even remember who I suspected before all these confusing replacements showed up.

No.

And, I'm

not

mod-confirmed.

If you're overwhelmed, considering this is a 20-player game, that's expected. Muddling happens when you have that many players and a lot of replacing going on.

I will contribute as much as I wish. You will not be silence if I ask you, so you can't realistically expect the same in return, now can you?

[Wake1]

you don't claim at L-1. you claim when someone has intent to hammer

I guess it's my fault for assuming people normally annopunce their intent to hammer when one is at L-1. I've seen quickhammers happen, and I consider it to be bad play.

[Skullduggery]

@Antihero:

Spoiler:

explaining townreads is really anti-town because if I explain what I think makes you town, scumbags are going to start trying to emulate that behavior. then i'll have to change what i think is town, and that's just annoying...

This seems counter-intuitive. Explaining why you think a player is Town is anti-Town behavior? In that case, all Town reads would basically just boil down to gut reads if you can't explain them. And willingly withholding your opinions of the other players means that you're denying Town information, which in itself is anti-Town. I don't follow your logic here.

When you say that you'll have to change what you think is Town, what do you mean by that? The method you use to identify Town players seems like something that should remain consistent regardless of whether you have to explain it or not.

Why would you vote someone based on something the previous slot did? It's not like you're going to elicit a useful response from them.

Because a player's alignment doesn't change when they replace out.

What, pray tell, is "screaming town" about Wake, jmo?

Oh, he's town, there is no doubt about that. If he is scum, he is seriously the stupidest scum I've ever played with.

If there is no doubt about Wake being Town, why acknowledge the possibility of him being Scum in the very next sentence?

I liked Skull's case on Don_Johnson but I need to do my own read on the game to see if I agree.

For what it's worth, I've pretty much changed my mind about Don_Johnson. I said something earlier that would have caused a smart Town player to back off. He backed off. He can be Town for today. I'm not interested in pursuing that wagon right now.

no. you didn't. it was terrible.

Quiet, you. It was a perfectly reasonable case...at the time.

As I said, there is a very high chance of me being Town.

No. Either you are or you aren't. There is no "very high" chance of your alignment being one way or the other -- especially from your point of view since you know what your role PM says.

Wake, can you just like...not post? I can't speak for the others, but now that you are confirmed, I would prefer it if you just never posted.

Bwuh? When did Wake become confirmed?