Newbie 1441 (Game Over)
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Brian Skies Survivor
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notscience Survivor
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Brian Skies Survivor
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notscience Survivor
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Brian Skies Survivor
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notscience Survivor
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Brian Skies Survivor
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This guy hasn't done anything since your predecessor ripped everything out of his RVS vote except that analysis against Montosh.In post 378, notscience wrote:I still stand by my SE townread.-
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notscience Survivor
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Brian Skies Survivor
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That gets completely demotivated once he gets deathtunneled without understanding why. Yeah, I know the type of player you're talking about. Also, I was heavily scum-reading Raven for that push.In post 382, notscience wrote:The newbtown easy lynchbait vibe.
@Drake: What do you think about Tigris and Spaces? I don't see a whole lot of thoughts about them in your iso.-
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Brian Skies Survivor
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This still doesn't give him a pass for his recent lack of effort. The analysis was pretty good but he somehow manages to stay off the wagon and fly under the radar for the rest of the day.In post 382, notscience wrote:But he gives me that newbtown vibe. The newbtown easy lynchbait vibe.-
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notscience Survivor
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Drake Crusader Goon
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I felt like I would include what I have about them with the rest of the list. So you can get an idea of where I am coming from. I am trying to be less confusing.In post 383, Brian Skies wrote:
That gets completely demotivated once he gets deathtunneled without understanding why. Yeah, I know the type of player you're talking about. Also, I was heavily scum-reading Raven for that push.In post 382, notscience wrote:The newbtown easy lynchbait vibe.
@Drake: What do you think about Tigris and Spaces? I don't see a whole lot of thoughts about them in your iso.
My list as of now :
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Spaces- I kinda view him as a null to town player. He asks questions seems to kinda just float around and idk. He hasn't done really anything that would seem to me like a scum move. He does seem to go from wagon to wagon. But , I would imagine that to be done as a pressure move ? He would appear to be Town if I had to put him in a group. I don't know how I feel about his vote on NotScience. But, NS did just vote himself so I guess anything goes there.
Tigris-A tough cookie. Appears to be town also. I can't read either. Really just sifts through the info and gives pointers. It gives me something to compare to. Other than that I really can't find something to make her scum. Tigris likes to push for more activity every now and then so I would find that to be a town move. Seems to be open which I gather is another town move. I would have to put Tigris in the town category also.
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Nominull- He just pops in and out from time to time and doesn't really help much. However, he does give solid advice and seems to be someone who is Town in the end.
Brian Skies- Still forming an opinion of you. Since your predecessor was null Town in my list , you get the same read until I can prove otherwise.
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JacobSavage- Hasn't helped , lurked around , defensive , just doesn't seem like the person who would want to help win the game with you. Almost like he doesn't really want to play his role.
NotScience- I don't even know. He is a ball of question marks wrapped into a cocky , very misleading player. He most recent style matchs Montosh. Maybe he believes that by replicating it he can be avoided since Montosh did it and he turned town. Time will tell.
SecondEngineer- Just gives me an uneasy feeling when I picture him as a town. Just doesn't help out either like JS. Almost like SE and JS are related. He wants to push all his mistakes on being a newb which I completely understand however, he seems to just post the mistakes and then kinda floats along until he is forced to post again with content or something of that nature.
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Unsure about this slot. I would like to think about JS or SE in this slot. However, with them being prodded and possibly being replaced out I want to see what they or their replacements have to say. NotScience could be considered scum if he continues to just play like he is. However, I kinda view him as a null scum to null town kinda player."We all of us need to be toppled off the throne of self, my dear," he said. "Perched up there the tears of others are never upon our own cheek.”
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Spaces Townie
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I'm not suspicious of NS because, as he said, "he pushed a lynch on a townie omigawd."
Five of us lynched a townie, not just NS, so to imply that such is the reason to suspect him is misleading. I suspected Montosh too, but there were also times when I wasn't sure. In fact, I can't be sure aboutanyoneuntil the mod reveals their alignment (barring special roles, of which you'd still know nothing on D1). Only mafiaknowwho's who in regards to alignment.
NS acts like he knows everything. It seems like he wrote up a list of what to think about everyone early on and hasn't deviated from that list at all. He hasn't even done any scum hunting this round. And hesaysthat he changes his mind about alignments:
But this is exactly what heIn post 374, notscience wrote:Second part was legit. Like, if I have someone I'm repeatedly wrong about I try to read them and then think to myself "hmm you're probs wrong"doesn't do. His words aren't matching his actions.
This whole self lynching thing is also convincing me further.In post 368, notscience wrote:That was the idea. I'd rather get lynched now rather than be quickhammered in lylo thanks to paranoia.Whywould you rather be lynched now than quickhammered late in the phase? If you're town, and have the town's best interest in mind, then spend this phase examining people, and encourage others to do the same. A town offering themselves to the noose early in the phase doeszero goodfor the rest of the town, which is why I'm believing more and more that you're not town at all.-
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JacobSavage Mafia Scum
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Okay I've beene all kinds of busy recenty and don't really have time at the moment.
I'll get to this in the evening. In the man time if anyone has any IC questions just bold them.-
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Nominull Mafia Scum
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JacobSavage Mafia Scum
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How come?-
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Nominull Mafia Scum
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That self-vote, didn't you see it? Self-voting is highly suspect under the best of conditions, and in this case he wasn't under enough pressure that it really would make sense for it to be legit frustration. If the best he can come up with to defend himself is this passive-aggressive nonsense, that's a really good sign he's scum.In post 390, JacobSavage wrote:How come?
Seriously, self-voting in that circumstance as town is so pointlessly bad that I'd say either he's scum or he's violating the rule about playing to your wincondition. Town would never evensuspectthat was a good idea, so either he's not town or he's sabotaging the game.-
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JacobSavage Mafia Scum
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Fair enough. Why would getting zerg rushed make you vote though...-
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Brian Skies Survivor
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He's referring to SecondEngineer.In post 392, JacobSavage wrote:Fair enough. Why would getting zerg rushed make you vote though...-
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notscience Survivor
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>utility lynches sabotage town (which is what your initial point to vote me boils down to btw)In post 391, Nominull wrote:he's sabotaging the game.-
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notscience Survivor
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Spaces Townie
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Because?In post 395, notscience wrote:I'm not scum, and I admit I am setting a bad example, but this really is the best course of action.-
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notscience Survivor
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Nominull Mafia Scum
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I could explain the various reasons this is a silly argument, but I don't want to confuse people into thinking we shouldn't lynch you.In post 397, notscience wrote:Why?
Because I hardcore tunneled a now confirmed town. So far to the point, that it is an EXTREMELY easy lylo bait. If I make it to lylo, we have no chance at winning the game.
Newbies, remember to ask me after the game why notscience's argument here is silly.-
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notscience Survivor
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