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fferyllt Titan of Trajectory
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I'm pretty sure CTD is going to want to lynch Plum unless his thoughts have changed significantly since day 2.-
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Grimgroove Mafia Scum
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fferyllt Titan of Trajectory
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He didn't?
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Ah. My memory has obviously failed me
Now that Yates has answered my question about SpyreX-notscience (albeit in a very unsatisfactory way), would you mind telling me what you had in mind when agreeing with his conclusion?
Tit for tat, I'll give you a glimpse of my theory right after that."What truffles are to pigs so are these charlatans and pettifoggers to my mental acuity." - Frasier-
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Yates Jack of All Trades
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You understand that when Plum flips scum you get lynched tomorrow, right?In post 1329, Grimgroove wrote:Although on second thought, SpyreX shouldn't be a priority for today.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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fferyllt Titan of Trajectory
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I had a strong independent town read on notsci from the outset. I was unsure of SpyreX because I felt like he was aggressively buddying me during the first few days of day 1 and it eventually made me a little paranoid. CDB actually defused that with the kuribo flowchart, but I recovered the town read on my own because the back and forth bouts of paranoia between notsci and SpireX looked town-on-town. Whether a notsci town flip actually points strongly to town SpireX may be debatable (I say it does point that way), but the more important consideration to me is what would scum think? Continued or increased paranoia between those two could help increase the in-thread noise level. And the confirmation of notsci-town, given notsci backed off his own scum read yesterday makes SpireX's concerns about the neighborhood look even more like town paranoia.
I've agreed with many of SpireX' reads, with the exception of CDB and notsci. Plum for me is more of a null but that's probably in part because I devalue VCA a little.-
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Grimgroove Mafia Scum
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Is that another one of your 100% guarantees or should I actually be worried?In post 1330, Yates wrote:
You understand that when Plum flips scum you get lynched tomorrow, right?In post 1329, Grimgroove wrote:Although on second thought, SpyreX shouldn't be a priority for today."What truffles are to pigs so are these charlatans and pettifoggers to my mental acuity." - Frasier-
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Yates Jack of All Trades
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That's only 40% guaranteed. I can't promise the rest of the Town will follow through on it but I guess we'll have a night to solidify that plan.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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Peabody Mafia Scum
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Garmr Survivor
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In post 1285, fferyllt wrote:
Disturbed. I know from our one prior game together that bad reads plus heavy pressure happen in your town game, but doing that accidentally as town leaves room for purposeful mislynches as scum. And I've been rehashing my concerns about the prior occupant of your slot.In post 1284, Grimgroove wrote:@fferyllt: What are YOUR thoughts on Grimgroove?
We are missing a kill today. If I had to guess, I would say that notsci wasn't the scumkill. He looks more in line with motivations that would have driven an Empire kill.
@Fferylt
I don't really want to say why just yet because I could be wrong or I could jeopardize someone, but I agree with this post mostly.
@Yates
1.This case here is quite BS. You haven't even looked into the motives of the players for their votes. Use me for an example. I had ABR as slight scum read yes but I actually perfected your slot and only hammered ABR because we had one hour in the day left.In post 1288, Yates wrote:So Plum was voting for Town in both final votes while off the wagon on Albert.
Garmr was voting for Town in both final votes and was the hammer on Albert.
Peabody was voting for Town on both final votes and was the hammer on Skies.
Since I have a very strong Town read on SpyreX, I am convinced all three people voting for Plum were Town.
That also elevates the likelihood that fferylt is Town voting with Town on Empire scum Day 1 AND makes Peabody look worse for the hammer - especially given Empires position on the wagon.
I feel very good about this vote:
VOTE: Plum
Garmr and Peabody are also good votes today, but my confidence in the Plum vote is highest.
2.Add in the fact you only did final vote verdicts and didn't even use the ones that were from the day makes the story incomplete.
3.Let look at another flaw of your people who only voted town rule. If scum bus they automatically become a town read.
4.Finally what about the people that haven't flipped yet. You have already been on one town wagon and we can't prove you been on a scum wagon since the only other person you voted hasn't flipped.
We already have one scum already busted. That means there is at least one town who has voted all towns that's if a scum member didn't try to bust on empire for town cred. So your scum tell is as likely to catch town as well as scum Is it really that efficient?
Also don't get me started that the people you have suspicions on are all people that were suspicious of your slot.
FINAL VERDICT
This looks like an attempt of trying to look like your scum hunting when your really not. There's no logic behind it. I also didn't liked the CBD slot either.
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Grimgroove Mafia Scum
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Where are the cases?In post 1286, Yates wrote:Yeah I'm here. Give me a minute to put my thoughts together. I have a couple of VERY strong Town reads and one or two VERY strong scum reads on first pass.
I had Spyrex and notscience in my strong Town reads.
Plum and - I think - Grimm in my Scum reads.I'll post some cases.
But first.... obligatory wagon analysis post incoming."What truffles are to pigs so are these charlatans and pettifoggers to my mental acuity." - Frasier-
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Yates Jack of All Trades
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You were willing to lynch ABR or CDB - both of whom were Town. And how does this help your case, exactly? And how does your motivation [fake or otherwise] change the fact that you hammered Town?In post 1337, Garmr wrote:This case here is quite BS. You haven't even looked into the motives of the players for their votes. Use me for an example. I had ABR as slight scum read yes but I actually perfected your slot and only hammered ABR because we had one hour in the day left.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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I've got a quick minute. I'm not pleased about ABR yesterday, but VLA will do that.
Yates is probably town. FFery it town. Garmr is town. I'd bet hard on these things still.
Barring shenanigans writ large, that's enough to do it.
Unvote, Vote: Plum-
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Plum Mafia Scum
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Peabody, I'm fairly sure your slot isn't scum with Empire, but please explain how and why [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p5443135]Post #1283[/url[] isn't an unfathomably bad case? We have one flipped scum. I'm not sure who you suspect besides me, and it's really not indicative that I haven't voted or expressed suspicions of myself
Why? And if it makes you feel any better, I'd have gladly voted ABR at the end of the Day to avoid a no-Lynch, as I worried might be necessary when the school's Wifi refused to work that afternoon, though I still greatly preferred a lynch on your slot.In post 1288, Yates wrote:VOTE: Plum
Garmr and Peabody are also good votes today, but my confidence in the Plum vote is highest.
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fferyllt Titan of Trajectory
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Yates, I would also like to see your cases.-
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You pretty much dodged what I was saying and took a snippet of it then misrepped me that's pretty scummy. CBD/you hasn't been proven to us that your town. Also you have yet to show how voting all town on the final vote proves someone's scum up to day 2. Us town doesn't know who else is town and who's not (barring power roles like masons and inspectors).In post 1340, Yates wrote:
You were willing to lynch ABR or CDB - both of whom were Town. And how does this help your case, exactly? And how does your motivation [fake or otherwise] change the fact that you hammered Town?In post 1337, Garmr wrote:This case here is quite BS. You haven't even looked into the motives of the players for their votes. Use me for an example. I had ABR as slight scum read yes but I actually perfected your slot and only hammered ABR because we had one hour in the day left.
I proved your way completely wrong with my post so we can to your list of scummy things.
1.Fake scum hunting.
2.Misrepping.
3.Question dodging.
4.Trying to get lynches on people who suspect.
5.Not having a real case to use on someone.
6.Potential hypocritical view points.
8 Your fallacy magically discludes you because one player you voted for hasn't flipped.
8 scum points is a awful lot of scum point to get out of one day, you really do wear your alignment on your sleeve.-
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CrashTextDummie Mafia Scum
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Grimgroove kind of won me over in our exchange towards the end of D1. His play yesterday is a double-edged sword for me. He was one of the more pro-active people in the game, but it's possible he strong-armed the ABR lynch to help out Plum. I'd probably look at Garmr for Plum-buddy first though.In post 1282, fferyllt wrote:How are you feeling about GrimGroove? And is Plum still your strongest scum read?
Yes, Plum is still my strongest scum read. Even stronger today with notscience and ABR flipping town.
vote: Plum
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Yates Jack of All Trades
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How confident are you on this read?In post 1341, SpyreX wrote:Garmr is town.Coming soon: 50 Shades of Null
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