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[emeraldemon]

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Hey mollie, you're back!

Is there anything in GM's more recent posts that has made you more suspicious of her, or is this mostly still based on the early read?

And why don't you like mala?

[goodmorning]

also re: playstyle

playstyle is not a scumtell.

Who said it was?

[Malakittens]

I see.

I think it might be necessary for me to point out that I'm actually not familiar with Huntress.
mollie and I have I think three or four shared games, Mala and I have probably about the same, plus we've modded for each other.

My question here, and it's more rhetorical than anything else: Does Mala have with Huntress what I have with Zai, Safety, even ppp? like Cabd has with TIP? like I have with Guy? or is it more like what kuribo has with DGB? in between? Does it even exist?

And I know that's a lot of namedropping but basically what I'm trying to say is I don't know whether it's playstyle synergy, really good meta, a fairly strong tell, or just lots of experience with each other, or something in between.
I'm willing to believe it exists, because it does happen and it destroys your credibility if you claim it wrongly one too many times.

I think we have more than four shares games. I'm not exactly sure of the count. Plus I modded you numerous times so I also add that due to watching how you play each game.

[Malakittens]

However ill add with my experience. I read huntress wrong here once, used to REALLY suck at reading her on the homesite, but slowly got better over time after learning how she plays. Not that I can really ever get credit for catching her as scum because I was never in those games, but yeah. (Early one I was)

[Shadowmod]

Vote Count

pirate mollie

(0/5):

TierShift

,

Huntress

,

D_Cobbz

,

Neater Plastic

Huntress

(0/5):

Malakittens

,

Neater Plastic

goodmorning

(0/5):

emeraldemon

,

TierShift

Malakittens

(0/5):

Neater Plastic

TierShift

(0/5):

goodmorning

,

Huntress

,

D_Cobbz

Rothwell

(3/5): emeraldemon, D_Cobbz, TierShift

emeraldemon

(1/5): goodmorning

Neater Plastic

(1/5): Huntress

not voting

(4/9): Rothwell, pirate mollie, Malakittens, Neater Plastic


9 alive, 5 to lynch, 5 to no lynch

Day 1:

(expired on 2013-11-30 15:00:00)

[TierShift]

Not a single post in 11 hours...

Why do mala and mollie read huntress as town, while she only has a shocking 7 posts?

[TierShift]

What conclusions do you draw from all that? It looks like a classic case of IIoA (Information Instead of Analysis).

More comments on that and the other stuff later but for now:

Vote: Neater Plastic

I'm working on your previous post and will be doing ISOs after, but to answer that simply and currently: nothing yet on Mala, vague badfeels on Huntress but nothing concrete, I don't think.

Why?

Are those analyses still coming?

[goodmorning]

They are, but it's kinda hard to do them with the site like this and I may chop the ISOs temporarily in favour of the other.

[Huntress]

I tried to get on earlier when I had a couple of hours available to work on this but the site was down so it will have to wait till tomorrow now.

Re: my vote for NP; I just get the feeling that he's trying to fit his behaviour to what he thinks will go down better, and then post 136 was a big scum tell to me.

[Neater Plastic]

Spoiler: Rothwell

Some people have shown that they believe in the possibility of Rothwell being a lost newbie as he claims, but suspicion against him is growing.

For future reference, I never claimed this.

One has already admitted to lurking; which can be taken two ways. He's mafia and scared to post or he's town and is lost.

The 2nd option is better.

Sure, you said "better", not "correct", but if you didn't actually mean that it was correct, what other options are there?

[Neater Plastic]

What conclusions do you draw from all that?

I can't really draw any conclusions from that post. Now I know why I haven't seen anybody else do that before.

i have huntress as strong town.

Since Malakittens has the same opinion but can't seem to explain it, I'd like to hear why you think this.

I am referring to the type of question and the depth thereof.

You're grasping. It's also making my whiskers tingle. It makes me possibly think Mollie's right and you could be scum afterall.

By "grasping", do you mean just this post or GM's playstyle in throughout the game? If it's just this post, what's special about it?

[Malakittens]

Just the post by GM. It reminded me a bit of the case she made on me in Donner. I think if she were to try and get an example of a town player trying to do it that would work, but I feel like she's tryin to mold a case with all alignments on scum to see who bites on it.

I sorta explained it in a previous post:

[pirate mollie]

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Hey mollie, you're back!

Is there anything in GM's more recent posts that has made you more suspicious of her, or is this mostly still based on the early read?

And why don't you like mala?

I didn't like her telling me how to play for starters. and when I pushed on it her reaction was pretty terrible.

[pirate mollie]

Not a single post in 11 hours...

Why do mala and mollie read huntress as town, while she only has a shocking 7 posts?

I can sometimes read people in 1 post.

I have her as town cos I like where her head is at and her progression in the game feels natural and not premeditated or stilted. and I like her suspicion on mala.

[Malakittens]

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Hey mollie, you're back!

Is there anything in GM's more recent posts that has made you more suspicious of her, or is this mostly still based on the early read?

And why don't you like mala?

I didn't like her telling me how to play for starters. and when I pushed on it her reaction was pretty terrible.

I never told you how to play. I just play differenty than you in terms of trying to find a partner unless I'm SURE the person in going after is scum then ill look before the flip and give my two cent out.

My reaction was fine.

[emeraldemon]

@Rothwell: Besides the votes on you, there's currently a vote on myself and a vote on NeaterPlastic. Do either of us seem scummy to you? If you had to lynch someone today, who would it be and why?

[Rothwell]

Sure, you said "better", not "correct", but if you didn't actually mean that it was correct, what other options are there?

I don't want to claim anything that could be used against me.

@Rothwell: Besides the votes on you, there's currently a vote on myself and a vote on NeaterPlastic. Do either of us seem scummy to you? If you had to lynch someone today, who would it be and why?

You.

[Shadowmod]

To my highest delight I can share my happiness with Cobbz in form of a prod.

There's also still an adorable little gap in my PM inbox where Mollie's role confirmation should be.

[TierShift]

Sure, you said "better", not "correct", but if you didn't actually mean that it was correct, what other options are there?

I don't want to claim anything that could be used against me.

You don't want to claim anything that can be used against you...what could we use against you? Oh wait I know, your lack of posting anything barely debatable! Aside from that, your lack of commitment, content and activity is not doing you any favors, how are you gonna change that?

@Rothwell: Besides the votes on you, there's currently a vote on myself and a vote on NeaterPlastic. Do either of us seem scummy to you? If you had to lynch someone today, who would it be and why?

You.

When you're finally answering a question, you aren't. Great.

[TierShift]

Malakittens, even though you have the highest post count of all, I find it hard to grasp anything 'special' from the posts, you seem to be trying to be too 'correct', if you know what I mean. It's kind of hard to explain, it's just nagging me.

I would love to see you do an ISO on everyone, so I can really see what you are thinking about the players in this game. Would you do that?

[Malakittens]

Yeah, but you're talking about an hour or two hours worth of work and doing it on my phone.

Ask me a spefic question on any player and ill answer it, but no sorry I won't go down ISO to ISO on each player.

[goodmorning]

I'm still working on it all, it's taking me slightly longer than expected.

[Malakittens]

I'm still working on it all, it's taking me slightly longer than expected.

You going to stall it out like in DP. (<3)

[Huntress]

@ Rothwell: Why emerald?


I'm not sure yet what I make of GM's case against emerald. I use questions a lot myself so I wouldn't fault him for that, apart from the fact that he made a point of asking them of everyone which is a bit of a scum tell to me.

Malakittens thinks Huntress is town, or at least claims to. At the start, emeraldemon and I thought she was contributing nothing while pretending to actually contribute something, but since then she has stopped acting like that so much.

NP is using emerald to bolster his own point against me here, but I don't think emerald really said that.

GM and Huntress sparked some serious discussion by voting for TierShift without an explanation. It seems that this was their purpose, not suspicion, although Huntress claimed that TierShift looked suspicious early on, see 44.

What makes you think that my purpose wasn't suspicion? Mala was also making assumptions on this point in post 110.

Lurker, lurker, lurker. Wherever you look, that's what Rothwell's being called, because we have little else to see about him. He has received many pressure votes. Some people have shown that they believe in the possibility of Rothwell being a lost newbie as he claims, but suspicion against him is growing.

This looks like NP is laying the foundations for a future vote on Rothwell despite having nothing on him but inactivity.

She read Huntress as supertown, which Huntress found slightly suspicious, and then admitted that this was buddying.

Where did you get the "slightly" from?

[emeraldemon]

Malakittens thinks Huntress is town, or at least claims to. At the start, emeraldemon and I thought she was contributing nothing while pretending to actually contribute something, but since then she has stopped acting like that so much.

NP is using emerald to bolster his own point against me here, but I don't think emerald really said that.

Trying to keep things as clear as possible: I assume NP was talking about my post here. I did say in this post "huntress may just want to get a wagon rolling and doesn't really care which ... [which] actually feels a bit scummy to me." regarding the vote on Tiershift. That was very early, my first non-RVS post, and I meant exactly what I said: it felt a bit scummy to me. Nothing more, nothing less.

Lurker, lurker, lurker. Wherever you look, that's what Rothwell's being called, because we have little else to see about him. He has received many pressure votes. Some people have shown that they believe in the possibility of Rothwell being a lost newbie as he claims, but suspicion against him is growing.

This looks like NP is laying the foundations for a future vote on Rothwell despite having nothing on him but inactivity.

This is the big question for me right now.
@Rothwell, please understand. Inactivity is one thing, but you're genuinely not helping town, and when people try to prod you into activity your responses feel hostile. If you want town to win, please try to help town win. Even a post like "sorry guys, I'm not as into this as I thought I would be" would help me a lot in trying to get where your coming from.

@huntress: can I take from this post that you don't think rothwell is scummy?