NY 170: Georgetown II (Game Over)

[Aegor]

k. Well that is not good enough when there are almost ten players willing to vote a player whose contributions are practically nonexistent.

[Garmr]

Chev and bulba are scum and the other one thor is off wagon on you. If there's 4 I have no fucking clue who the 4th one is.

[emeraldemon]

Vote: Nobody Special

Just FYI this was L-1 on Nobody Special unless I miscounted.

[Nero Cain]

k. Well that is not good enough when there are almost ten players willing to vote a player whose contributions are practically nonexistent.

that seems like it would be a good reason to want to kill someone.

[Nero Cain]

If NS flips scum I want that dead, I might want it dead regardless.

[Nero Cain]

. I, for example, thought mountainous games were games where town outnumbered scum by a larger amount than the typical 1:3 ratio.

^^^^^^
this has me worrying about Bulb 'cause I think its fairly common knowledge that mountainous=no power but for someone that HAS played in a mountainous game this seems fairly obtuse.

[Nobody Special]

I will just note for the record that I have almost twice the posts of Matias, and he's not getting nearly the heat that I am.

Very much a scum-driven wagon.

[Nero Cain]

I do have Taco as null.....

[Chevre]

At most you two are on equal footing, because Matias replaced in at page 32 or so whereas you have been here for the whole ordeal.

Post Count is a shoddy system of measuring activity anyway, because both of you are guilty of making posts which are simply prod dodges.

[Bulbazak]

. I, for example, thought mountainous games were games where town outnumbered scum by a larger amount than the typical 1:3 ratio.

^^^^^^
this has me worrying about Bulb 'cause I think its fairly common knowledge that mountainous=no power but for someone that HAS played in a mountainous game this seems fairly obtuse.

And I thought town largely outnumbered scum in that game past expected levels. In fact, I joined the game hoping to draw scum because of the challenge. I'll need to go back and look at that game and see if the ratio was off at all.

[Garmr]

. I, for example, thought mountainous games were games where town outnumbered scum by a larger amount than the typical 1:3 ratio.

^^^^^^
this has me worrying about Bulb 'cause I think its fairly common knowledge that mountainous=no power but for someone that HAS played in a mountainous game this seems fairly obtuse.

Nerocain marry me.

[Nero Cain]

WOAH SLOW DOWN!!!!

Take me to dinner first, cowboy.

[Huntress]

Rainbowdash replaces Zekrom25. Welcome!

[Huntress]

Vote Count 2.13

Nobody Special (8) - The Fonz, emeraldemon, Albert B. Rampage, Aegor, Bulbazak, HighShroomish, Matias, Chevre
Albert B. Rampage (3) - Nobody Special, Sotty7, Zdenek
Bulbazak (1) - inHimshallibe
Aegor (1) - Thor665
Nero Cain (1) - Rainbowdash
HighShroomish (1) - Nero Cain
Garmr (1) - Garmr

Not voting (1) - kabooooom


With seventeen players alive, it takes nine votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day Two is Friday, 21st February 20.00 GMT, (in (expired on 2014-02-21 20:00:00)).

Note:

Thor665 is V/LA from 18th to 21st Feb.

[HighShroomish]

So you think I'm scummy?

Well, your slot, yes.

If my slot was scummy why didn't you say so earlier?

I can't say for certain, but I've already switched scum from my top scum read to a lean town because the person who replaced in did a fantastic job of slipping through mine and a couple other players fingers, which ended up getting me lynched, so... good luck with getting off my scum list, but you aren't a top priority.

So I'm sitting on your scum list 'cause you thought emo was scummy and you are afraid that I'm going to pull the wool over your eyes?

What do you think of ABR? Is he scum, town, null, what? Why?

I'd be fine with an ABR lynch.

I could've sworn I had said I thought the emo slot was scummy because of her. Maybe I just said emo was scummy?

Well, erm, not exactly. More like "you're on my scum list because of emo, and you're going to have to really get a crapton of townie points for me to even consider changing my read on you.

Okay, so why?

[HighShroomish]

I will just note for the record that I have almost twice the posts of Matias, and he's not getting nearly the heat that I am.

Very much a scum-driven wagon.

I don't want your lynch because you're lurking, I want your lynch because of the posts you do have, which, unless I'm mistaken, is what most people want.

I really don't like the "Lynch All Lurkers" mentality, it drives me crazy.

[HighShroomish]

VOTE: Garmr

I'm town but I feel like now my lynch is the only thing hat will make you guys take me seriously.

The fuck is this, Garmr. Right now, lynching you would accomplish exactly nothing. It wouldn't confirm anyone town or scum except you. So that's not happening.

[Sotty7]

I'm heading off to work, but I will be back around 7pm CST to switch my vote if needed.

[The Fonz]

I'm worried about Fonz and Sotty because they are both capable players who have decided to be rather pathetic in this game.

Erm, screw you. And define pathetic? Disagreeing with you? If you mean undercontributing, I haven't posted for a few days. Thirteen hour shifts combined with spotty net access. It happens. It's not like I'm skimping on giving reads here.

Thor thinks I 'owe' him something on InHim. Since I don't have a ton of time for this post and he's V/LA, I'll go into it tomorrow.

I'll consider it.

Hey Fonz, what's your read on bulb right now?

Once I dropped out of back-and-forthing with him and getting massively frustrated by how utterly terrible his arguments are, I came to the conclusion he was probably sincere and thus town. That town meta quote Zdenek posted of him - where he essentially attacks someone horribly over semantics - makes me think that this is not the scumtell (for him) it struck me as at the time.

Sotty's sorta-defence of Nobody Special is... interesting. I read a load of NS games for meta before voting him (fairly standard with lurkaderp types). The short posts and lurking I can write off as playstyle. But I'm really intrigued to hear that emerging from a lurk to vote a noncontributor is a 'standard NS tactic.' To me, the difference between the easy lynch lurker and the scum lurker is that the town lurker at least makes some effort to impact the game when (s)he shows up. That vote feels like a deliberate attempt to be as ineffectual as possible, which is the opposite of what a townie should be going for. Basically, is there any evidence at all, anywhere, of town motive from him? I'm not seeing it.

Finally, today's events have flipped my view on Zdenek/ABR. I don't actually want to lynch either today, but Zdenek feels more constructive lately (pissed at him, but whatever) whilst attack dog/hardass prosecutor Albert (ironically, kinda the reason why Zdenek suspected ABR to start with) which is what I expect from him as town hasn't shown up.

[Matias]

I will just note for the record that I have almost twice the posts of Matias, and he's not getting nearly the heat that I am.

Very much a scum-driven wagon.

And acidic taco together?

What does my post count have to do with my alignment?

[Matias]

As an aside, your wagon may very well be scum driven and you may very well be town, but you are the only optimal lynch for this very moment, and to boot, you've had extremely unreliable reads, almost like you totally get amnesia between them.

[The Fonz]

I will just note for the record that I have almost twice the posts of Matias, and he's not getting nearly the heat that I am.

Very much a scum-driven wagon.

He also replaced in two weeks after your first post, so it's not an apples-to-oranges comparison, which tells me at best that you're paying almost no attention to the game. Let me guess, you went to 'activity overview' to see if there was anyone who'd posted less so you could make this argument? Deflect more, scum. And it's not just lurking.


Also note the non-distinct "there's scum on that thar wagon." Who?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lynch NS.

[inHimshallibe]

vote: Nobody Special

[Thor665]

I think NS is a good lynch, but I don't really follow why NS defending Aegor makes NS scummier? Are you implying NS and Aegor are scum buddies?

The logic I was suggesting in that discussion was NS = scum Aegor = town, and that NS was going for the town points of defending an imminent wagon on town in a weak manner but wanted to get his comment in and on the record.

Would like to say why didn't anyone bite when I voted bulb out the blue?

Your push was too weak and ineffectual to count that as part of a case.

So, Aegor is still probably town.

Your openening comment here is phrased far stronger than any of the evidence you provide afterwards - indeed, without this line, my read of your post would be 'null to nullish town' and yet your conclusion is 'town'. Whassup?

Also- Thor, you didn't "start" the Aegor wagon. You voted him and so did Bulba, then poof, no votes on Aegor. Then, once the Aegor wagon seems like it could actually have potential- "HEY GUYZ REMEMBER I STARTED THIS!!! YEAH!! MAKE SURE YOU REMEMBER THIS WAS BECAUSE OF ME!!!"

Okay, well, first off - if I didn't start it, who did?
Second off - the only way that play makes sense if you're right is if Aegor is scum, would you like to vote Aegor?

Thor thinks I 'owe' him something on InHim. Since I don't have a ton of time for this post and he's V/LA, I'll go into it tomorrow.

You do.

I'm glad other people are noticing that Zdenek is town.
Emeralddaemon is also town.
I have Nero as town, partly for prior slot holders and his own play is fine in my opinion.

Vote: Albert B. Rampage