Newbie 1495 (DAY 4) - The One where Everyone got Murdered

[Jcozmo]

@Jcozmo: What do you make of this? What do you think of my arguments on Xayzeck/Shinobi?

I'm trying to figure out why Shinobi stuck his neck out so far for Mala. I actually don't think its all that likely she flips scum. So thats what I'm currently trying to reconcile. Also trying to understand this new enomis wagon and who benefits and why.

Huh. And you stated intent to hammer and said you were convinced. What?

No i said it was enough. I stated intent for more information and was in no real hurry to drop it. I've never thought the case was great for Mala, I've been consistent on that. But I put here at #4 of 9, so it wouldn't have been close to the worst person the lynch D1.

[enomis]

Huh. Then what do you mean by enough. Isn't enough => I am satisfied with lynching mala today and i scumread her.

What information did you expect to get by stating intent besides mala claiming?

[Shinobi]

@Shinobi:

I am ignoring people? When did i do that.
I am scumreading people for bad reasons? Those are legit reasons bro.

So in essence, you're scumreading me because i am scumreading people as to what you feel is a bad reason. Wow, what a Good reason you are scumreading me for.

Oh and you havent answered me,
Find me one town motivation as to why mala would lie as town. Go on.

So are you townreading mala or null reading mala now?

1) I already said I townread Mala, multiple times.
2) The issue isn't that it's purely scum-motivated. The issue is that town and scum both lie, but I see absolutely no reason Mala would lie intentionally about something as ubiquitous as meta. It was either a mistake, or misrepresented information.

@BBT: That is quite far fetched. You think if i am scum, my elaborate plan of pulling out the shinobi case is to have the town to no lynch?

I don't know what your plan is. You're a late comer, and I haven't had much chance to interact with you. I'm trying to get as much information as possible, I'm beginning to get confused with everything that is going on and it's becoming distracting.

I am still very happy with my Mala vote and I'm looking for information from her flip.

Do us all a favor and vote your partner.

[Jcozmo]

Huh. Then what do you mean by enough. Isn't enough => I am satisfied with lynching mala today and i scumread her.

What information did you expect to get by stating intent besides mala claiming?

I was just looking for more, I didnt have an expected outcome. As for the rest of what you are asking, keep in mind I'm trying to figure this game out on the fly, but I'm not sure its 100% critical that you hit scum D1. If shes #4 on my list, thats close enough to not be an egregious error and does provide enough clues as to how my remaining outlook would shake out with 7 left.

Meaning, as I understand it, Day one isnt lylo. So saying its enough to lynch D1 (

saying

mind, you, the hammer wasnt dropped with the known information at that point) doesnt to me necessarily have to mean I'm reading 100% scum.

[enomis]

Shinobi:

You are an expert on only answer part of my questions and ignore other parts.
Shall i give you the prize for being selective questions answerer?

And for your townread,
The only thing i see you are townreading her of is because of her reposting her reads even before she die.
Any other stuff?
Thats all the big post of yours stated.

Did i just hear you say:"The issue is town and scum both lie"?? and i told you to give me a town motivation in this case and you could give me none but say it was a mistake. A mistake to what? A mistake to lie?
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@Jcozmo:
Ok. What number is she on your list.

[Malakittens]

I'm probably goin to ignore Mora for the rest of the game. It might be just me but every single potshot (which might be just how it's coming off to me) is irking me so badly. I'm like over it. Not sure if its his tone I'm not liking, but probably not a player ill play with in a future. Also curious that he's wanting me lynched, but not voting.

Enom: I self meta regardless of alignment. I defend himself with it. I'm trying to say if you were to look at the group of my games where scum was rolled 8 times in a row compared to my older, older scum games I took a different approach. When I first started scum I was more active and then I got bored of scum, hated it so I became inactive. I didn't know when Wicked was going to end, I was fully planning on coming clean when it did that Wicked gave a new outlook on what my meta was. If you read the posts in that game both F-16 and Penguin/Cabd hydras broke my meta down. I did my best to manipliate the start of the game as a steagetry that I wasn't going to be transparent.

I have lost signal on the subway <<

[enomis]

Oh and list the 1,2,3 if she's 4. Basically the people who you think are scummier than her. Yawn, i am going to sleep.

[Jcozmo]

Shinobi:

You are an expert on only answer part of my questions and ignore other parts.
Shall i give you the prize for being selective questions answerer?

And for your townread,
The only thing i see you are townreading her of is because of her reposting her reads even before she die.
Any other stuff?
Thats all the big post of yours stated.

Did i just hear you say:"The issue is town and scum both lie"?? and i told you to give me a town motivation in this case and you could give me none but say it was a mistake. A mistake to what? A mistake to lie?
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@Jcozmo:
Ok. What number is she on your list.

#4 (Xayzeck,Shinobi,Wolfy), but there is so much now to really digest, today's been crazy. So much more from you, more from shinobi, have to re-evaluate.

I kind of want someone to put you at L-1, just too see what happens. No offense, but Enomis @ L-2 has really been invigorating for the game so far.

[Moratorium]

I'm not taking potshots at you Mala, I wanted to know when you are going to be around to have some back and forth with everyone so I can read it and respond. You posted a quick sentence, but it starts "If I were scum...", can you see that I can't do anything with that?

Don't just shut down on me, I've unvoted you to get you off L-1 and am giving you every possible opportunity to state your defense. I would personally prefer if you did so without talking about meta.

[Malakittens]

I probably won't be home until 3hours from now. I just told a friend on Skype that. It takes me 2 hours to get home by train and I'm only on the subway to get to Penn. idk even know times for my train. So thinking 3-4 maybe.?

[Shinobi]

Shinobi:

You are an expert on only answer part of my questions and ignore other parts.
Shall i give you the prize for being selective questions answerer?

And for your townread,
The only thing i see you are townreading her of is because of her reposting her reads even before she die.
Any other stuff?
Thats all the big post of yours stated.

Did i just hear you say:"The issue is town and scum both lie"?? and i told you to give me a town motivation in this case and you could give me none but say it was a mistake. A mistake to what? A mistake to lie?
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@Jcozmo:
Ok. What number is she on your list.

Sure, I'll answer your ques-

...Wait a minute.

Post #565

@Shinobi:
Look so your whole big post = "Lying is null".

Give me a town motivated reason for why you just lied.

[Moratorium]

this shinobi-enomis "argument" just took a turn for the dumb

[Jcozmo]

What lie Shinobi? Explain further.

[Jcozmo]

this shinobi-enomis "argument" just took a turn for the dumb

Indeed

[Shinobi]

this shinobi-enomis "argument" just took a turn for the dumb

The point I'm trying to make here is that enomis' whole argument boils down to "lynch liars," which is most likely not an alignment indicative argument.

It's supposed to be dumb. Because that is exactly what it is.

[Moratorium]

I get it, just trying to figure out who takes credit for it.

[Shinobi]

Mora, please play more games with me after this omfg.

[Moratorium]

Why Mala over Xayzeck?

Because she's the Wolfy/BBT false dilemma originator (#214)
Because "We can either have a doc or a BP." after a cop claim seems like a scumslip.
Because no reads, no scumhunting all day.
Because wifom arguments and "woe is me I'm terrible Day 1" instead of, you know, participation.
Because now, here, at the cusp of death, suddenly scumhunting, on a target with barely any posts, for bad reasons.

Enomis, riddle me this one, let's taking the whole lying shabang out of the equation, what's your opinion on the above.

[Shinobi]

I keep refreshing this, expecting an answer.

Stupid Singapore.

[Jcozmo]

He pretty much said he was going to sleep. Less than 36 hours to go....

[Shinobi]

I know, that's why it bugs me. That's an entire third of what we have left gone because he's in another timezone.

[Moratorium]

damn, wish i could sleep 12 hours

[Shinobi]

Hey guys.

Mora can do math.

[Moratorium]

kids don't allow it

[Malakittens]

I keep refreshing this, expecting an answer.

Stupid Singapore.

Singapore's pretty amazing