In post 3685, VitaminR wrote:
You can totally have scum motivation for setting up a dichotomy between scum and town. For example, if you think that people are more likely to vote for the townie if forced to choose. Say if the townie is a particularly easy target, like DGB.
That's obvious nonesense, in any number of ways.
First of all, no, that still doesn't make any sense. If I say "Either A or B is scum", and then we lynch B and they flip town, that still gets person A lynched the next day. If I was trying to protect person A, that would be the stupidist possible way to do it.
Secondly, I never tried to lynch DGB yesterday, and in fact right from the start of the day I made clear that while either DGB or STD had to be scum, that I thought STD was more likely. I did question DGB, but I never attacked her or made a case against her.
And third of all, I think you just implied DGB was an easy lynch, which is just laughable; have you ever played with DGB before?
Besides which, you still haven't actually refuted my argument from yesterday; you keep claiming that it's absurd, but you never actually bothered to refute it. My main point yesterday was that there was no plausible 4 man scum that didn't include either DGB or STD. If you think that's untrue, then give me one. Give me 4 people who yesterday could plausably have been scum together, without including people who are either obvtown or who can't possibly be scum together because of the way they've fought, and without including either STD or DGB.
In any case, I don't have to know the motivation in order to recognize fallacious reasoning.
How can you say it's "fallacious reasoning" when you seem totally incapable of refuting it? This is at least the third time I've asked you to do so, and you apparently can't.
I gave a whole bunch of plausible scum groups in
Post 3244 (we had a whole discussion about it!), but you just ignored it because you're unwilling to try to see anything from my perspective.
Are you talking about this?
Yes. There's so many players left, including two useless hard-to-read lurker slots (SpyreX, OGML). Even if we exclude you and me and all of the pairs you list, how about MBL, or GC, or BooKitty, or Poro? Are you so certain of all of your reads? I can easily think of lots of four-player scum groups that fit your constraints. It seems totally fake to claim that one of DGB and StD has to be scum.
MBL? GC? Bookitty? Poro? Really?
GC has far more town cred then most people in the game do, bookitty is very unlikely to be scum, and MBL is obvtown. You're really reaching here.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie