NY175: Sycamore Scuffle


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Post Post #2675 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:29 am

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Scarab/TheWayItEnd = Scumfuck.


SCARAB REGARDING:

Shaddowez
~ Only mentioned shaddowez one time, in
Burning_Town
~ Never mention B_T. If wrong please correct this.
AdrienC
~ Never mentioned AdrienC, either.

THEWAYITENDS REGARDING:

Shaddowez
~ Never mentioned or quoted shaddowez. Ever.
Burning_Town
~ Questioned B_T once in .
AdrienC
~ Voted AdrienC in . Voted him again in .
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Post Post #2676 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:37 am

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Reinoe = Scumfuck.


REINOE REGARDING:

Shaddowez
~ Didn't really question shaddowez in . Bounced an idea off him about HS pulling a "Wake."
Burning_Town
~ Didn't really say anything about him, either.
AdrienC
~ Spoke with him twice in and . Nothing mentioned by him that'd cast AdrienC in one light or another.

I haven't been able to connect any dots between reinoe and any of these guys. Maybe that was deliberate?
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Post Post #2677 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:38 am

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Votecount D7-2
TheAdrienC
L-3
0
Wake88
L-3
0
Burning_TowN
L-2
1
Boonskiies
shaddowez
L-2
1
Burning_TowN
Boonskiies
L-3
0
Not voting:
TheAdrienC, shaddowez, Wake88
With
5
alive it takes
3
to lynch.
Current deadline26/08/2014 00:21 (EDT)
(expired on 2014-08-26 00:21:34)
This should be required reading for...everyone for anything, really.
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Post Post #2678 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:51 am

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BP = Scumfuck.


BP REGARDING:

Shaddowez
~ Never voted, questioned, or directly talked to shaddowez in all 138 posts.
Burning_Town
~ Spoke with B_T once in .
AdrienC
~ Placed suspicion on Adrien in . Giving Adrien grief in . That continues in . More grief in , , and . The latter BP is trying to call him Scummy. Same in . Scum scumreading Adrien in .
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Post Post #2679 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 5:52 am

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So none of them even looked Shadow's way?
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Post Post #2680 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:03 am

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Shadowez is creeping on my radar though it still damn well could be Burning Town.
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Post Post #2681 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:14 am

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Scarab/TheWayItEnds, reinoe, & BP = Scumfucks.


THEM REGARDING YOURS TRULY:


1) SCARAB/THEWAYITENDS REGARDING WAKE88:

Scarab
~ Trying to lynch my ass in . Menioned my name in a few spatterings here and there, and then replaced out.

TheWayItEnds
~ Giving me a whole lot of grief in . Also tried lying about me and Juls in his first sentence there. Being a monkey in .

2)
reinoe
~ Giving me grief way early on in . Scumreading me in . Trying to get me in . : Trying real hard to discredit me. Again in . Very sneaky in .


Now, which of B_T, shaddowez, and AdrienC has given me the most grief, like these three dead Scum?
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Post Post #2682 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:16 am

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In post 2681, Wake1 wrote:
Scarab/TheWayItEnds, reinoe, & BP = Scumfucks.


THEM REGARDING YOURS TRULY:


1) SCARAB/THEWAYITENDS REGARDING WAKE88:

Scarab
~ Trying to lynch my ass in . Menioned my name in a few spatterings here and there, and then replaced out.

TheWayItEnds
~ Giving me a whole lot of grief in . Also tried lying about me and Juls in his first sentence there. Being a monkey in .

2)
reinoe
~ Giving me grief way early on in . Scumreading me in . Trying to get me in . : Trying real hard to discredit me. Again in . Very sneaky in .


Now, which of B_T, shaddowez, and AdrienC has given me the most grief, like these three dead Scum?


Damn, my section on BP disappeared.

3)
BP
~ Oh, damn, where to even begin. Searched my name on his ISO and got 117 hits.
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Post Post #2683 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:22 am

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Day One, I gave you a lot of grief, to be honest. But so did a lot of people. I started to lay off a bit as the game went on.
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Post Post #2684 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:40 am

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Is it possible both me and wake are alive because our flip might confirm the other and the scum wants as much confusion as possible?
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Post Post #2685 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:43 am

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B_T
~ Though the heads initially quarreled over my alignment, and had a hiccup here and there, the did not seem to be like the other three Scum who tried their damndest to railroad me. ...

AdrienC
~ FOS'd me in . Voted me in . Apparently scumreading me in . : Wake88 = strongly leading Scum. Placing doubt on me in . And do not think I forgot your . His is incredibly Scummy, and sticks out like a sore thumb.

...

...Juls did mention you were being fake, Adrien.
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Post Post #2686 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:49 am

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...shaddowez did accuse me of being the Serial Killer, and tried to achieve my lynch.
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Post Post #2687 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 6:54 am

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Adrien, you didn't die last Night. If you're a Town Commuter, which happens to be a threat to Scum assuming you're Town, why didn't they kill you?

I don't see how, since you claimed Day 1, you were unscathed Day 2, 4, and 6.
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Post Post #2688 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:00 am

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In post 2648, TheAdrienC wrote:I'm worried the scum was expecting that.
But then again, unless we're missing something, it has to be one of them.
I trust you, Wake.
It's your call.


I've got a Juls perched on my shoulder, pecking my ear.

Hope I didn't give you the impression I wasn't testing your fakeness for myself.
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Post Post #2689 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:01 am

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VOTE: AdrienC

I trust you, AdrienC.
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Post Post #2690 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:08 am

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In post 2668, TheAdrienC wrote:
If I had claimed I was a commuter just now, I could see you saying "Oh maybe he's a roleblocker". But I claimed it day one so I have to have "winning the lottery luck" to fakeclaim it as a roleblocker and block you from killing me. How would I know you were killing me when you gave no indication of targeting me? How would I know you were a vig? Keep in mind, my first reaction when I saw that post of your old targets was a scum slip and I immediately voted for you, meaning I had no indication you were a vig.


Rephrase this.
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Post Post #2691 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:08 am

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Lol! Dude, you are a vig who wasn't killed! The same argument can be made for you. I really hope another game can hurry up and end so I can give you some meta on me.
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Post Post #2692 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:09 am

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Let me get my hotspot set up. I can't keep arguing on my iPhone.
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Post Post #2693 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:27 am

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In post 2691, TheAdrienC wrote:Lol! Dude, you are a vig who wasn't killed!
The same argument can be made for you.
I really hope another game can hurry up and end so I can give you some meta on me.


Did you not say you trusted me? Just words made to crumble, I see. :mrgreen:



My vote stands. I suspect you're a Roleblocker, who roleblocked me Day 5, and killed someone else at the same time thanks to Toomai mentioning that Scum could do both at the same time. It fits, and you've conveniently made it look like you're an Odd-Night Commuter.
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Post Post #2694 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:31 am

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In post 2690, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2668, TheAdrienC wrote:
If I had claimed I was a commuter just now, I could see you saying "Oh maybe he's a roleblocker". But I claimed it day one so I have to have "winning the lottery luck" to fakeclaim it as a roleblocker and block you from killing me. How would I know you were killing me when you gave no indication of targeting me? How would I know you were a vig? Keep in mind, my first reaction when I saw that post of your old targets was a scum slip and I immediately voted for you, meaning I had no indication you were a vig.


Rephrase this.


How likely is it that I set up an Odd Night Commuter fakeclaim on Day One to have it confirmed on Night 6 by just so happening to roleblock the Odd Night Vigilante on Night Five? Occum's Razor, Wake. What's the most reasonable explanation that someone who claimed to be untargetable on Odd Nights survive an Odd Night Vig attempt? I had no idea you were a vig, I had no idea you were targeting me, so even if I was a roleblocker, why would I target you for a roleblock? Scum would probably want the vig to take out another townie, right?

The reason you couldn't kill me was because I vacated the premises. You practically confirmed that. If there was a way to safely do this, I'd say go ahead and make a kill this night phase without tell me if it will be me or someone else. If you try to kill me, it will fail. If you try to kill someone else, it will succeed. 100% of the time. I don't have an active role. I have a blue little P on my role PM where it says I am gone for the night.

And if there is a roleblocker, there is a chance that person is someone else, not necessarily the person you targeted. Personally, with all these roles the town has, I'm seriously thinking there's something to help the scum find PRs like a rolecop.

As for why I'm alive this far into the game, they probably wanted me alive with Juls since it would be possible to lynch me and they probably didn't want to kill last night me to confirm you.
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Post Post #2695 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:32 am

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In post 2693, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2691, TheAdrienC wrote:Lol! Dude, you are a vig who wasn't killed!
The same argument can be made for you.
I really hope another game can hurry up and end so I can give you some meta on me.


Did you not say you trusted me? Just words made to crumble, I see. :mrgreen:



My vote stands. I suspect you're a Roleblocker, who roleblocked me Day 5, and killed someone else at the same time thanks to Toomai mentioning that Scum could do both at the same time. It fits, and you've conveniently made it look like you're an Odd-Night Commuter.


I trust you to be town at this point, Wake. Because I know that the mafia has to be either Shadow or B_T.
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Post Post #2696 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:32 am

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In post 2649, shaddowez wrote:The biggest part of this game that still bothers me is N3. It is the only night that has absolutely no defined answer on how we only had two kills when we have a scum faction, a confirmed SK, and a supposed (Sorry, can't say you are until your flip) ON-Vig. The only possibility I can think of is that the remaining scum is RB or JK and managed to stop Aero's kill that night. If that's the case, then it's safe to assume your vig kill won't work tonight. That means a mislynch today puts us into Mylo tomorrow. Heck, if Adrien is scum, that puts us into Lylo tomorrow, but I'm hoping at that point whoever's left alive can figure out who the scum is.


We lynch Adrien today. This way he cannot roleblock me and kill someone else tonight. Remember what Toomai said. If for some reason Adrien flips Town, I'll kill someone tonight. It won't be Boonskiies.
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Post Post #2697 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:34 am

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In post 2695, TheAdrienC wrote:
In post 2693, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2691, TheAdrienC wrote:Lol! Dude, you are a vig who wasn't killed!
The same argument can be made for you.
I really hope another game can hurry up and end so I can give you some meta on me.


Did you not say you trusted me? Just words made to crumble, I see. :mrgreen:



My vote stands. I suspect you're a Roleblocker, who roleblocked me Day 5, and killed someone else at the same time thanks to Toomai mentioning that Scum could do both at the same time. It fits, and you've conveniently made it look like you're an Odd-Night Commuter.


I trust you to be town at this point, Wake. Because I know that the mafia has to be either Shadow or B_T.


Oh, I would have believed that, had Toomai not said a Mafia member could USE A PR
and
kill at the
same time
!
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Post Post #2698 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:38 am

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Remember when you said I'm alive for a reason and you're alive for a reason despite the fact we've claimed PRs. This is why, Wake. Leave only one of us alive, the rest of them know for a fact that person is town because they confirm what we (whether you forgot it or not) know and that is you are a vig and I am a commuter. By leaving us both alive, they are making everyone wonder about our claims, wonder why we are still alive, and hope it might drive a mislynch on a PR.
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Post Post #2699 (ISO) » Mon Aug 18, 2014 7:39 am

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You miss that kill, we lose, Wake. There are two choices between Shadowez and B_T with a 50/50 shot of either one of them being the scum. You sure you can mislynch me and pick the right one?

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