NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)

[T S O]

I'll admit Bob cheers me up and that's another reason to keep him but the quality of people voting him, like MVP and Cephrir, who both are in my top 3 scumreads, makes it pretty obvious this wagon is bullshit. Another reason could be the fact that Bob's explanation is legit.

MVP's jump was also atrocious.

[AngryPidgeon]

TSO, comment on mvps claim?

[reinoe]

but the quality of people voting him, like MVP and Cephrir, who both are in my top 3 scumreads, makes it pretty obvious this wagon is bullshit.

Even though TSO is a leaning scumread of mine, I was starting to go crazy thinking that I was the only person who does wagon analysis on D1.

VOTE: Bicephalous Bob

[Bicephalous Bob]

But then if he was a mafia doctor with possibly a daytalk (she had that in her last large normal too iirc), he probably would've asked to his scumbuddies.
I think he's more likely to be a serial killer.

you forgot traitor and self-jailkeeper

[Bicephalous Bob]

but the quality of people voting him, like MVP and Cephrir, who both are in my top 3 scumreads, makes it pretty obvious this wagon is bullshit.

Even though TSO is a leaning scumread of mine, I was starting to go crazy thinking that I was the only person who does wagon analysis on D1.

VOTE: Bicephalous Bob

WHAT IS THE SCUM MOTIVATION

[goodmorning]

It's time for some OUT OF THE BOX THINKING...

@Mod...

When did your game enter the review process? When did your game Complete the Review process.

It went into review quite soon after I signed up and went into signups quite soon after the review completed, as most Large Normals do.

Waiiiit, I just looked at the endgame list and I can't tell, bit I could have sworn there was a GS in that game.

There was. It was TIP. By the time I realised I'd botched it I was already locked out.

Fun fact: egrets will still shit on everything you've ever loved.

Votecount 1.35

reinoe [L-3] - Bicephalous Bob, Toomai, T S O, Izariael, Depraved Justice

Bicephalous Bob [L-4] - AngryPidgeon, MVP, Cephrir, reinoe

Toomai [L-6] - Mirhawk, Aeronaut

MVP [L-6] - TheWayItEnds, Aegor

T S O [L-7] - Ki-Gi

Not Voting [1] - Cabd

With 15 alive, it takes

8

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2014-08-30 21:00:00)

Some of MVP is V/LA a bit.
TheWayItEnds is V/LA til Saturday.

[Bicephalous Bob]

reinoe, do you consider your scum meta to be consistent?

[Cephrir]

but the quality of people voting him, like MVP and Cephrir, who both are in my top 3 scumreads, makes it pretty obvious this wagon is bullshit.

Even though TSO is a leaning scumread of mine, I was starting to go crazy thinking that I was the only person who does wagon analysis on D1.

VOTE: Bicephalous Bob

Nothing about this post doesn't baffle me.

[AngryPidgeon]

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. The day will end in 4 days, 5 hours, 17 minutes

If we could lynch someone in the next 48 hours so as not to tempt deadline rushes, that'd be fantastic. Lets start consolidating votes and getting off vanity wagons. *cough cabd cough*

[Bicephalous Bob]

please answer the fucking question

[Cephrir]

If a counterwagon emerged on the right player I might join it, but I'm not feeling particularly compelled to attempt to start one myself.

[reinoe]

but the quality of people voting him, like MVP and Cephrir, who both are in my top 3 scumreads, makes it pretty obvious this wagon is bullshit.

Even though TSO is a leaning scumread of mine, I was starting to go crazy thinking that I was the only person who does wagon analysis on D1.

VOTE: Bicephalous Bob

WHAT IS THE SCUM MOTIVATION

Well you've been lurking, but just enough to stay out of the "Bicephalous Bob is lurking" range.

There's also an impossible to understand trajectory of your reads. Like everything you're doing is just reactive floating by. What's really concerning me is the lack of pushes.

[reinoe]

reinoe, do you consider your scum meta to be consistent?

I didn't really want to broach this subject because "self-meta", but since you asked...I always play the same way as scum. I occasionally play that way as town so that it doesn't become a reliable tell. This is wiki confirmable.

[reinoe]

It's time for some OUT OF THE BOX THINKING...

@Mod...

When did your game enter the review process? When did your game Complete the Review process.

It went into review quite soon after I signed up and went into signups quite soon after the review completed, as most Large Normals do.

If I may be so bold...

may I have specific dates?

[AngryPidgeon]

^ Where the hell are you going with that?

[Bicephalous Bob]

he's probably trying to confirm the gs claim in the worst way possible

maybe the nrg said something about gunsmiths in mafia discussion

should've WotC'ed him

[reinoe]

^ Where the hell are you going with that?

I want to know when she became familiar with the setup of NY175 in direct relation to when this game entered signups...

Spoiler: setup of NY 175

Setup
Sharpest-knife-on-tree: Town Even-Night Tracker
Cabd: Town Even-Night Vigilante
TheAdrienC: Mafia 1-Shot Bulletproof
reinoe: Mafia Godfather
Wake88: Town Odd-Night Vigilante
Burning_TowN {Burning_Earth, tn5421}: Vanilla Town
shaddowez: Vanilla Town
Damon_Gant: Vanilla Town
Mirhawk: Vanilla Town
Not_Mafia: Vanilla Town
Aegor: Town Fibonacci-Night Cop
TheWayItEnds: Mafia Goon
farside22: Town Odd-Night Doctor
Boonskiies: Vanilla Town
BroodKingEXE: Vanilla Town
Juls: Vanilla Town
Aeronaut: Serial Killer
HunterSeeker: Vanilla Town
Clusk92: Vanilla Town
BP: Mafia Goon
Alina: Vanilla Town

Goodmorning does not have a history of doing EVEN/ODD night anything based on the Large normal, large theme, and mininormal she has run.

While I'm suspicious of MVP's claim, I don't want to push a PR that could be telling the truth. He's got something going for him in regards to GM using gunsmith, but he's got a mark against him for trying to use Toomai's mod meta and applying it to GM.

GM made a comment in the NY 175 SPOILER/DEAD thread and I want to reconcile the timing of the comment to when this game entered the review process.

[T S O]

TSO, comment on mvps claim?

Exceptionally easy to fakeclaim, one of the safest things there is to claim, the explanation about their playing matching their claim holds no water with me, and I also have another reason to think it's false which I cannot discuss.

[goodmorning]

It's time for some OUT OF THE BOX THINKING...

@Mod...

When did your game enter the review process? When did your game Complete the Review process.

It went into review quite soon after I signed up and went into signups quite soon after the review completed, as most Large Normals do.

If I may be so bold...

may I have specific dates?

idk, go check the queue or something

[reinoe]

^ Where the hell are you going with that?

I want to know when she became familiar with the setup of NY175 in direct relation to when this game entered signups...

Spoiler: setup of NY 175

Setup
Sharpest-knife-on-tree: Town Even-Night Tracker
Cabd: Town Even-Night Vigilante
TheAdrienC: Mafia 1-Shot Bulletproof
reinoe: Mafia Godfather
Wake88: Town Odd-Night Vigilante
Burning_TowN {Burning_Earth, tn5421}: Vanilla Town
shaddowez: Vanilla Town
Damon_Gant: Vanilla Town
Mirhawk: Vanilla Town
Not_Mafia: Vanilla Town
Aegor: Town Fibonacci-Night Cop
TheWayItEnds: Mafia Goon
farside22: Town Odd-Night Doctor
Boonskiies: Vanilla Town
BroodKingEXE: Vanilla Town
Juls: Vanilla Town
Aeronaut: Serial Killer
HunterSeeker: Vanilla Town
Clusk92: Vanilla Town
BP: Mafia Goon
Alina: Vanilla Town

Goodmorning does not have a history of doing EVEN/ODD night anything based on the Large normal, large theme, and mininormal she has run.

While I'm suspicious of MVP's claim, I don't want to push a PR that could be telling the truth. He's got something going for him in regards to GM using gunsmith, but he's got a mark against him for trying to use Toomai's mod meta and applying it to GM.

GM made a comment in the NY 175 SPOILER/DEAD thread and I want to reconcile the timing of the comment to when this game entered the review process.

Anyway I was looking through GM's comments in NY 175 and reconciling them with this games startup. She (GM) found several things interesting about that game's setup. If this game entered the signup phase BEFORE she had a chance to get a look at the NY175 setup then it would have been unlikely for her to implement some of those things. However since this game entered the review phase after she got access to NY175 setup info it is possible GM applied some of NY175 to this game.

I'm feeling aggravated because I've seen so many scum escape lynch with fake-claims.

[Mirhawk]

I didn't/don't think you're a possible lynch for today, so this statement is silly.

I do, however, think you're scummy and would lynch you if I thought it were possible. Maybe on day 2, if I survive the night. Something to look forward to for both of us. It'll be fun.

I'm not seeing why this isn't possible today. I know for a fact that there's at least as many people with DJ in their scumlist as there are on the Bob wagon.

I don't want to lynch Toomai. reinoe or MVP.

How do you feel about DJ? Also why not Toomai?

As for the hydra, we have been consulting. We have consulted but we disagree on things. The scumread we agree on (Mirhawk) is unlikely to be lynched. So we have agreed to put our vote where useful and reassess daily.

You know I was just ignoring the fact that you've been calling me your primary scumread all day since I know you don't have shit on me, but let's talk about it. It'll be fun.
Why am I scum, and why is whatever you're going to accuse me of scummy? Is there even a scum motivation for me to do this hypothetical thing?
From where I'm standing your case amounts to
"OMGUS! You just called me out on being a lurky dirtbag"!

Why dont you think Toomai is viable? I know Aegor and I have been talking about that most of the game Day.

Because aside from you, me, and Aegor everyone seems to be reluctant to even so much as look at him.
I mean despite the fact that he's managed to spend the entirety of day one doing absolutely NOTHING.

[Aegor]

Willing to switch to Toomai if MVP wagon disintegrates.

Bob votes make no sense and are really, really bad. Surely scum would have PMed the mod about such questions? I PMed the mod about the GS results. There is no reason to post in-thread; it is null.

[Mirhawk]

Bob votes make no sense and are really, really bad. Surely scum would have PMed the mod about such questions? I PMed the mod about the GS results. There is no reason to post in-thread; it is null.

Agree.

"Bob is dumb so he posted a question highlighting his scumrole in the thread" is a terrible scumtell.

[reinoe]

Phone posting from work...

There's something I forgot take into account when I considered my vote on Bob.

VOTE: toomai

[Cephrir]

The reaction wasn't great IMO.