Mini 1597: Runecast Mafia - Day 5

[Konowa]

If explanation is needed, Konowa will oblige.

[fferyllt]

VC 2.8

Fast move the sons
of Mim, and fate
Is heard in the note
of the Gjallarhorn;
Loud blows Heimdall,
the horn is aloft,
In fear quake all
who on Hel-roads are.

Yggdrasil shakes,
and shiver on high
The ancient limbs,
and the giant is loose;
To the head of Mim
does Othin give heed,
But the kinsman of Surt
shall slay him soon.

Burning_Earth

(3): Ansuz, Kthxbye, d3x

Josh_B

(3): Konowa, LynxKuroneko, Burning_Earth

geraintm

(2): Osseus pseudotripodis, Thor665

LynxKuroneko

(2): Josh_B, TunnelMates

Osseus pseudotripodis

(1): geraintm

Not Voting

(1): Mantisdreamz

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: September 3, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2014-09-02 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[d3x]

Konowa asks d3x to join Burning_Earth wagon, d3x graciously denies.
Konowa joins the Josh_B wagon, d3x votes Burning_Earth.

To be fair, I didn't ask you to switch. Nor did I attempt to drum up any support, but there were multiple Vote changes and positions taken. With the flip, we'll get some really good information. I'm going to be on whichever Wagon {Josh or BE} is closer come deadline.

[Josh_B]

I feel like I should ask this, particularly to kthx and mantisdreamz. What were your cases for Highshroomish as scum?

After post 135 people calling HS scum just kind of seemed to take off. He didn't explain himself very well, he didn't even try. I come in, and I see that yea lynx is probably scum, but I'm trying to explain it more. I guess, I'm not doing a very good job of it.
I'm going to vote BE too. He was my first scum read in the game. But not until I get this issue resolved with Konowa.

[Mantisdreamz]

i don't want off the top of your head, i want you to bring him in focus for once

>.> no. and btw the post where i said BE looked like he was non caring town: i linked his post because i thought it was humourous. i didn't have him as non caring town at the time, simply because he posted that.

[Mantisdreamz]

i read his posts last night (wasn't able to respond to them tho), and i liked them. there's not much more focus i can do there

[Mantisdreamz]

OK, I'm catching up. I'm mostly going to be typing stuff as I go along, but keep in mind my reads up to this point are based on every that has happened up to this point, not as it was happening like most of you. Thank you kthx for the link to your reads. I'm glad to know that you and D3x are confirmed town. It's not like either of you needed it though.
Well d3x might have needed it a little, he spent most of the DP camped on the hiplop wagon while sidelining other reads.

Up to post 140 Lynx's Reads, I feel like I'm just reading a game to be reading it. A lot of town,town, town. -Except Burning Earth, who seems to be challenging others on their reads, but not actually coming up with his own.
Anyways, Lynx gives out his top three scum reads, My slot, Burning Earth, and Tunnelmates. Does he change his vote from D3x? No he doesn't. So in post 141 when Gameplay points this out, GP jumps to the top of my town list. Heck even GP has a lower scum read than d3x. Lynx says he pretty much "forgot to vote," I don't buy it, I think Lynx was looking for an empty way to lynch town.

I don't like Konowa's post 152, 211seems like a defense of Lynx, which starts a tunneling on Gameplay.

If the other townies feel that HighShroomish (or anyone else on my scum radar) are stronger reads at this point, then we shall discuss why and vote accordingly.

- proves my suspicion of Lynx is justified. Then 238 same thing.

I don't like gerantum. I can't understand his lock on Konawa being town.

Konowa, why are claiming to have forgotten that Burning Earth is in this game when you asked other players to explain their scum read on Burning Earth specifically?

Post 690 Mantis let's me know that I'm not reading this game by myself. I'm not sure about tunnelmates, or about ansuz. Lazy inactive High Shromish, is wrong but I can understand it. And Lynx isn't on this list.

And Kthx, wait for it.. My avatar is now cooler and better than yours. Ok, it's not. Because I don't know how to resize this image.

hmm indeed.

[notscience]

vla until monday

[Mantisdreamz]

ansuz, what are your thoughts on konowa?

I think that Konowa looks town. I'd describe him as "active" and "aggressive", which are points that I normally don't use to describe him in general but even less so when he's scum. In particular, this post looks like the "not caring town" you seem to have magically found in BE because it comes after a lot of patient digging and prodding found in #86 and #270.

there was no magic

and i just iso'ed burning earth.. he kind of seems like non caring town.

How does saying "and I still don't care?" translate to noncaring town? Is it just town because he claims not to care?

no for christsakes. i inserted that quote of his, to re-iterate what i already thought about him.. he obv looks like he's phone texting. how much can he really do. and the stuff he has done.. ie. suspicion on you.. i like and get it.

[Mantisdreamz]

and if you thought that i magically conjured something.. why are you not pushing on me?

[Mantisdreamz]

that and i think nacho usually has better reads..... (his vote on geraintm for one)... and i shouldn't talk since i placed a vote on him as well, but it really was more for pressure :/

I don't think I was wrong with geraintm, but we can open that discussion tomorrow when his vig somehow doesn't go through and he somehow doesn't have it anymore.

i think it will go through.

[Mantisdreamz]

Still available for sheeping, but, yeah, if no one else knows what the hell they're doing they should sheep me.

BE vote is pretty straightforward: the only wagon that he's shown any resistance or dislike towards is Lynx's for some unexplainable reason, he hasn't put any thought into any of his actions and is generally happy contradicting previous positions for little or no reason (and somehow coincidentally sees scumminess in the flavor of the day whenever the wagon builds up, but not a moment beforehand and not a moment after).

Sheep.
If you need to be talked through the vote, let me know because my horoscope says I'm feeling extra helpful today so I'm more than willing to hold your hand through this the entire way.

it's cause lynx is probably town. do not sheep, thor

[Burning_Earth]

Yeah sheep us instead Thorey man

[Mantisdreamz]

you seemed so certain that he was scum.

This part is generally the part that confuses me.
He seemed to hold conviction over one thing HighShroomish said being scummy, but that doesn't necessarily translate into a strong conviction of HighShroomish being scum as you're saying it did, unless I'm misunderstanding you.

he seemed pretty certain to me that he thought he was scum. i have since changed my view a little on this.. it did seem like he was defending his vote a little too much on HS, while i was asking him about GP in the meantime. but i kinda think there might have been a misunderstanding which led to silliness. ie... me getting defensive towards him and vice versa. i dunno.. i guess he thought i was attacking his HS vote... so it made him want to explain further on why he voted him. which.. in turn looked weird to me, cause i wasn't asking about his HS vote in the first place.

as of right now, i don't have konowa as a high scum read anymore. he might have something with josh_b, in fact

[Mantisdreamz]

Yeah sheep us instead Thorey man

you know someone's bound to jump on this post^

[Burning_Earth]

Yeah sheep us instead Thorey man

you know someone's bound to jump on this post^

Yes and it shall be bullshit because of my role PM

[Mantisdreamz]

can you refresh my memory... when did you drop your scum read of GP? or did you?

gameplay506 fell into the "null, hopefully gameplay506 gets shot category so Konowa wouldn't have to think about gameplay506" during Night. Konowa felt that Konowa spent too much of D1 in a tunnel and decided to ignore gameplay506 as discussion with gameplay506 was going nowhere. Konowa still isn't getting overwhelmingly Town vibes from Thor665 either, but that might be due to paranoia. Konowa thinks that kthxbye should still target Thor665 with kthxbye's hider action.

I think that Konowa looks town.

I'd describe him as "active" and "aggressive", which are points that I normally don't use to describe him in general but even less so when he's scum.

In particular, this post looks like the "not caring town" you seem to have magically found in BE because it comes after a lot of patient digging and prodding found in #86 and #270.

Curiosity piqued.
Ansuz, is a Nacho/Desperado hydra? Yes? When has Konowa played with either of these heads?

if desp has posted! .. i see no sign of desp-town so far

[Mantisdreamz]

Yeah sheep us instead Thorey man

you know someone's bound to jump on this post^

Yes and it shall be bullshit because of my role PM

just trying to put that out there before someone does try

[Mantisdreamz]

Thanks ansuz, That's better for now. Lynx, I'm catching up on the game. It wasn't targeted at you specifically.
I read your justification. I even described what I didn't like about your post in the first place. There's a problem that I can't understand and as much as you explain it to me, I probably still won't understand. It seems like you are trying to protect someone.
It isn't me, Gameplay called you out on it immediately(I would have if I had been here), so it isn't him, is it tunnel mates or burning earth?

It also doesn't make sense why Osseyus was so high on your list.
Osseyus is more likely to be scum because he's defending you, not town. Town mostly eat popcorn, rather than get involved in other people's nonsense. I see that you vote your top town read at the start of DP2,http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6131538
That's questionable don't you think?

VOTE: Lynx

what!! it's the scum that likes to eat the popcorn, while town eats itself apart normally :p

[Josh_B]

Yes and it shall be bullshit because of my role PM

You're role pm? seriously? You don't have to like to kick it. -or mock me.

[Burning_Earth]

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[Mantisdreamz]

I feel like I should ask this, particularly to kthx and mantisdreamz. What were your cases for Highshroomish as scum?

After post 135 people calling HS scum just kind of seemed to take off. He didn't explain himself very well, he didn't even try. I come in, and I see that yea lynx is probably scum, but I'm trying to explain it more. I guess, I'm not doing a very good job of it.
I'm going to vote BE too. He was my first scum read in the game. But not until I get this issue resolved with Konowa.

i had no case for HS as scum! there wasn't enough said on his part.

why was BE your first scum read?

[Mantisdreamz]

Konowa would like Mantisdreamz thoughts on Josh_B.

konowa, so far. i do not like.

i am not liking the push on lynx. i also think ansuz is scum

[Mantisdreamz]

oh.. HS vote was a pressure vote. @ josh

[Mantisdreamz]

Yes and it shall be bullshit because of my role PM

You're role pm? seriously? You don't have to like to kick it. -or mock me.

i do not understand, either.

like to kick it?
mock you?