Mini 1597: Runecast Mafia - Day 5

[Thor665]

Oh wait, I think I get it - you're saying it's one slip *per Day* makes you unloved, but 3 *in a Day* makes you Hated, right?

[Thor665]

You do agree with me that your role is pro-scum also, yes?

[Konowa]

That would be correct.

If by pro-scum, Thor665 mean negative utility towards Town, yes?

Konowa has slipped three times but is continuing the restriction because Konowa has found that it forces Konowa to slow down, reread Konowa's posts, and think a little more. Konowa has no idea how Zorblag did this intentionally for so long.

[Mantisdreamz]

@Mantis - when you complain that I am attacking Player A, then complain I'm attacking Player B,a nd then complain that I'm too focused on Player C...yeah, i think it's valid to point out that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

what are you taking about. the only thing i complained about was you going on and on about konowa's pr. you were the one that brought the idea of other ppl somehow being in the mix

k. what i said was.. i did not like your thing on tunnel. i also said i did not like your back and forth with gera. how this somehow translates to me talking out of both sides of my mouth is beyond me.

should i just not play the game then, being that it offends you somehow, that i have opinions about your attacks ?

esp on ppl that i think are town?

[Mantisdreamz]

Doesn't matter at this point, there is at least two D2 so I will force it at this point and say third there just to clear this entire situation up.

unvote;
Vote: Konowa

To make sure vote change occurs after third slip.

konowa, please don't .

remove the vote (pls)

[d3x]

Frankly, I dislike Josh's p1010 very much. The end relating to Konowa blatantly ignores that literally

hundreds

of posts occurred in between those 3 quoted posts.

@Ansuz- There's a post or two on page 40 that I'd be interested in hearing your responses. I think they're specifically aimed at you, so I'm not sure if you just missed them or...?

Josh's p1028 is also really gross. There are legitimate questions being posed to his strange posts/phrasing and he jumps to the old "why did you find my predecessor scummy?".

@Kthx- Right now, I'm feeling you Hiding behind Ansuz, us Lynching Josh, and geri Vig'ing BE. If Ansuz gets the Rope {which I'm against for Today}, then I'd say Hide behind Josh. Aside from my earlier reasons for you not to Hide behind Thor comes the ridonk 2 Day WIFOM. "O Noes! Kthx died, but Thor is alive! Is he actually delayed dead or is he Scum?!? Should we Lynch him or wait an extra freaking Day based on his delayed death Claim?"

I'm feeling ScumMantis less.

you better make your catch up good!!! .. ^-^

Dont hold your breath!

I think Lynx is just super easy MisLynch fodder.

Vote:Josh

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

maybe i'm a little jaded.. but this post seems like bs to me.
ffs, you say you have ansuz in the wanting to lynch category, and that you don't like the players on his bw? yet you vote lynx..someone who isn't on the ansuz bw. wtf?

what is your purpose for wanting to lynch lynx over ansuz?
or as well, what is the purpose of not voting the ones that you don't trust?

(i'll be honest).. i flat out think that you and ansuz are scum.. and this is you trying to put a a bit of suspicion on ansuz, but in the meantime voting lynx (town)

Then you are jaded. Here's the thing, Ger is going to night kill me, so I'm not worried about playing for tomorrow. This is the gamestate as I see it right now. We've been pretty obviously town in my opinion, so think we're scum and be wrong all you want.

I mean you just used two scum-tactic staples in this post. "lol why didn't you vote EVERYONE instead!" and "you're reading everyone as scum" when A) I can only vote one player and B) when I say I don't trust players it's not that I'm implicitly reading them as scum but because I don't trust their reads. Let's not try to lump in the implication that I'm just vanity reading Ansuz as scum. The reasons I have him in the scum category are completely independent from the reasons I am voting Lynx.

[Thor665]

@Mantis - when you complain that I am attacking Player A, then complain I'm attacking Player B,a nd then complain that I'm too focused on Player C...yeah, i think it's valid to point out that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

what are you taking about. the only thing i complained about was you going on and on about konowa's pr. you were the one that brought the idea of other ppl somehow being in the mix

k. what i said was.. i did not like your thing on tunnel. i also said i did not like your back and forth with gera. how this somehow translates to me talking out of both sides of my mouth is beyond me.

should i just not play the game then, being that it offends you somehow, that i have opinions about your attacks ?

esp on ppl that i think are town?

You are asking me why I "brought other people into it" while admitting that you dinged on me for my attacks on multiple people.
Thank you for proving that I'm not tunneling even though you're complaining about how I'm tunneling.
I don't care if you keep playing the game or not, you are playing it, so that's my biggest boggle solved. But don't expect me to think you're playing it as well as I think it should be played when you're having trouble wrapping your head around my raised issue.
Why aren't you trying to convince me Ansuz is scum?

@d3x - I agree with your issues raised about Josh insomuch as I think they show poor play. That said, Josh doesn't really strike me as scum who would do a lot of research, and his catch on Konowa is a reasonable catch to at least ask about - and the fact that he *noticed* the turns in Konowa's attitude makes me feel like he's actually putting in work and trying to figure out some stuff. You don't think that translates to town points?

@Osseus - what is your read on Ansuz?

[Kthxbye]

I think Lynx is just super easy MisLynch fodder.

I disagree due to his reaction about me hiding behind him. I will follow you to Josh, but mostly for VCA purposes. I'll be hiding being Lynx tonight for sure though. Would rather easy mis-lynch fodder (if that is indeed what he is) be moved out the way by scum than to be mislynched later. I agree with your hiding behind Thor thoughts as they match my own.

VOTE: Josh

[Thor665]

The hiding behind Thor thought is silly - the mod has as much as said that you would die, and I am told by the mod when I have been killed over night.

[Kthxbye]

Oh, and yeah, vig should shoot BE.

If we are swinging to Josh, a claim should be had from Josh. We are getting down to the wire even with the extension.

Josh_B (3): LynxKuroneko, d3x, Kthxbye
Ansuz (3): Mantisdreamz, geraintm, Burning_Earth
Burning_Earth (2): Ansuz, Josh_B
LynxKuroneko (2): TunnelMates, Osseus pseudotripodis
Konowa (2): Konowa, Thor665

[Kthxbye]

The hiding behind Thor thought is silly - the mod has as much as said that you would die, and I am told by the mod when I have been killed over night.

...yeah, that's what we just said...

[Thor665]

If so it's not what d3x said - there would be no wifom to deal with. You'd lynch elsewhere and if I was alive the next day would insta lynch me. There wouldn't even be need for debate.

[Thor665]

I just want to see a mod vote count, really.

[fferyllt]

VC 2.11

Surt fares from the south
with the scourge of branches,
The sun of the battle-gods
shone from his sword;
The crags are sundered,
the giant-women sink,
The dead throng Hel-way,
and heaven is cloven..

Now comes to Hlin
yet another hurt,
When Othin fares
to fight with the wolf,
And Beli's fair slayer
seeks out Surt,
For there must fall
the joy of Frigg.

Ansuz

(3): Mantisdreamz, geraintm, Burning_Earth

Josh_B

(3): LynxKuroneko, d3x, Kthxbye

Burning_Earth

(2): Ansuz, Josh_B

LynxKuroneko

(2): TunnelMates, Osseus pseudotripodis

Konowa

(1): Thor665

Not Voting

(0):

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: September 5, Midnight US Eastern Time

Countdown: (expired on 2014-09-04 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Thor665]

Unvote: Konowa
Vote: Josh

[Konowa]

feebs, etc.

Konowa would be placing a vote on Josh_B here if Konowa had a vote.

[d3x]

Wait. I thought you became Hated when you angered the gods. Now you're Voteless?

[Konowa]

Because if Konowa slips three times, Konowa becomes Hated (Lynch -1)

and loses Konowa's vote for the day

. Konowa didn't want to try and prove the claim this way, but it might be easier. The Loved/Hated condition is removed in LYLO but the removal of the vote still occurs in LYLO if Konowa slips three times. Town doesn't likely need Konowa's vote for the Day, so whatever.

Town has four votes for Josh_B with seven needed to lynch, Town can get three more.

[d3x]

Ah, I did miss the 2nd half of that.

Carry on.

[d3x]

Thank you for proving that I'm not tunneling even though you're complaining about how I'm tunneling.

I think she's refering to the player Tunnel as opposed to the singleminded hunting of a lone player.

[Konowa]

@d3x - I agree with your issues raised about Josh insomuch as I think they show poor play. That said, Josh doesn't really strike me as scum who would do a lot of research, and his catch on Konowa is a reasonable catch to at least ask about - and the fact that he *noticed* the turns in Konowa's attitude makes me feel like he's actually putting in work and trying to figure out some stuff. You don't think that translates to town points?

Konowa's problem with it is how Josh_B is attempting to show Konowa's stance on hiplop as scum with the way Josh_B is framing the question.

So which was it Konawa? Did you think hiplop was town, or did you think he was scum?

Konowa believes the entire context makes since instead of snipping out three small quotes.

Also, Josh_B continues to side step the fact that Konowa thought that LynxKuroneko was likely Town due to gameplay506's shitty attack and HighShroomish's shitty vote. Josh_B didn't want to address Konowa's thoughts on why gameplay506 was scum but skipped it and said because Konowa was attacking gameplay506 who was attacking LynxKuroneko therefore Konowa is somehow scum defending LynxKuroneko.

Josh_B makes two posts about LynxKuroneko and then forgets all about LynxKuroneko. Something with all of that isn't right.

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

I think Ansuz *could* be scum, but the people pushing his lynch don't fill me with confidence.

I intend to be on the same wagon as Kthx and d3x at the end of the day for further wagon analysis. It'll put three confirmed town on the same wagon.

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

That first statement to Mantiz obviously.

[geraintm]

No, if we lynched ozzy and he turned up scum, then I would shoot Ansuz as he is the person I think is the person second most likely to be scum. Why on earth would I shoot anyone else besides my second choice?
I am just not understanding your thinking. At all

What if we lynch Burning earth and he turns up scum. Who will you shoot then?

The person top of my scum list. Likely the person I am voting for...