Mini 1597: Runecast Mafia - Day 5

[Kthxbye]

Fine.

VOTE: Konowa

[Thor665]

Is Thor665 equating strong-willed to that of a strongman role? Is that why Thor665 says Night actions are screwy?

I'm equating strong willed to strong willed - you're the one talking redirecting right now.
I know what he said - now look at what he flipped;

geraintm,

Town One Shot Strong-Willed Vigilante/Day 1 Vengeful

, Killed Night 2

That doesn't look like a 'Night 3 Strong Willed' to me.
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest he lied about that.

Now, with that as an idea - what do you think about the night actions?
Also, if you want to argue I'm wrong, please use the evidence we have when making the case.

[Thor665]

Fine.

VOTE: Konowa

If you lackwits do that without demanding certain people *cough*B_E*cough* get n it first, I will be

[Konowa]

Fine.

VOTE: Konowa

If you lackwits do that without demanding certain people *cough*B_E*cough* get n it first, I will be

This.

If this is going to happen now, kthxbye and d3x need to unvote for the time being.

Burning_Earth and LynxKuroneko need to vote, then d3x and kthxbye can revote and Konowa will cast the fifth vote.
Konowa doesn't want to slip so Konowa will shut up till then.

[LynxKuroneko]

Bahaha. This is interesting. But I'm not letting my votes be decided for me. Thanks.

[Ansuz]

Do you understand why people are voting Konowa?

[Thor665]

Do you understand why people are voting Konowa?

Are you intentionally avoiding my question?
If not, please field it now. Since you're only around once a week or so I'd like not to have to keep chasing you down every time you do blitz through.

[Ansuz]

Currently, working theory is that he shot OP but OP is bulletproof.

Did you ask a question that wasn't answered by this?

[Thor665]

So your working theory is that scum shot Mantis?

[d3x]

UnVote

Everyone had a bug in their ass over Konowa Yesterday, I don't see any reason why we should drag feet over this Today while the Modifier is still in place. No one was worried about a DerpHammer Yesterday, so I fail to see how the situation has changed.

Thor, why are you now completely uninterested to check the status? You were pretty keen on testing it Yesterday and especially so when the convenient PR slip happened.

[Ansuz]

Burning_Earth is almost certainly getting lynched today unless something happens with Konowa so it's bad to check status before he's on the wagon since he could conceivably quickhammer if he's off it.

[Ansuz]

So your working theory is that scum shot Mantis?

Yes.

[Ansuz]

I think it's approximately 1000x more likely than geraintm shooting mantis.

[Thor665]

Thor, why are you now completely uninterested to check the status? You were pretty keen on testing it Yesterday and especially so when the convenient PR slip happened.

You do realize we confirmed that he became a non voter off the posting restriction yesterday, right?
My issue was his posting restriction - since then I was shown games involving runes and posting restrictions done by this mod and also resonable verification that his claim is more or less on the level. Yes, that shifts my priority about it.

Burning_Earth is almost certainly getting lynched today unless something happens with Konowa so it's bad to check status before he's on the wagon since he could conceivably quickhammer if he's off it.

Echo, echo, echo.

So your working theory is that scum shot Mantis?

Yes.

Why do you think scum shot Mantis? I would consider that a sub-optimal shot for them at this stage.

[Kthxbye]

UNVOTE:

[TunnelMates]

Only reservation for checking the loved thing is the potential "over-the-top lolhammeroops" possibility. Otherwise, nothing really risky about it.

[TunnelMates]

Just, umm, Konowa make sure it's not just a Day 2 or Day 3 loved, or Odd-day loved. In an old game, I remember mistaking my "Day X" loved status as everyday status and got lol-lynched.

[Ansuz]

Why do you think scum shot Mantis? I would consider that a sub-optimal shot for them at this stage.

I could see scum shooting mantis because of a positive PR result on mantis.
I could see scum passing up shooting the more obvious targets (d3x) because of protection worries and in turn shooting someone who seemed pretty town.
What is your working theory for what happened last night?

[Konowa]

Konowa has the conditional Loved/Hated status until LYLO at which point it is removed. However, Konowa losing Konowa's vote is still a thing if Konowa slips on the posting stuff.

[TunnelMates]

Konowa has the conditional Loved/Hated status until LYLO

You're also Hated? I obviously haven't read carefully if you already mentioned that too.

[TunnelMates]

Because if Konowa slips three times, Konowa becomes Hated (Lynch -1) and loses Konowa's vote for the day. Konowa didn't want to try and prove the claim this way, but it might be easier. The Loved/Hated condition is removed in LYLO but the removal of the vote still occurs in LYLO if Konowa slips three times. Town doesn't likely need Konowa's vote for the Day, so whatever.

So anyways, Thor665 outside of this foolish attempt to say Konowa is scum for some outlandish outguess the mod Thor665 is in, why is Konowa scum?

Oh My God I Suck

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

...

I have a great feeling about this.

Okay.

[Burning_Earth]

Ansuz claimed vig after geraintm's death?

VOTE: Ansuz

[Thor665]

Why do you think scum shot Mantis? I would consider that a sub-optimal shot for them at this stage.

I could see scum shooting mantis because of a positive PR result on mantis.
I could see scum passing up shooting the more obvious targets (d3x) because of protection worries and in turn shooting someone who seemed pretty town.
What is your working theory for what happened last night?

I can see a couple of possibilities and consider the entire thing very strange - which is why I'm questioning people who seem to feel it's very obvious.
I would say the one that concerns you the most is the idea that you are the scum kill being passed off as a Vig kill and that the Mantis kill was Ger's kill and/or Ger was prevented by a scum Doc/BP.

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

Ansuz's actions last day phase were consistent with a Vig claim. If not for that I would agree with you. Too many variables for scum to try and pull that off I think. Ger had to kill the wrong player (no way if Ger went through with his kill on me could Ansuz pass that off as the scum kill), and a third kill had to not surface.