NY 176: Completely Ridiculous Mafia (Game Over)
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Not really.... Except that now I'm liking the bodyguard claim more than I would have liked a doc claim.
Which puts me back on AP.
What I really wanna talk about is that there has to be a roleblocker in this game right?
Like you cant put 2 investigatives in a game and no roleblocker?
But then the N2 kill makes no sense?
How likely is like a restricted RB?As the last rays of sunlight fade, one killer chases another through the tangled madness of the city.
A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
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TheWayItEnds Jack of All Trades
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Cause their cant be a full doc in this game.
Like literally cant.
With 2 investigatives.
And potentially resticted RB.
I could see a maf doc as the scumteams big power role.
Because it doubles as the GF against double gunsmith?As the last rays of sunlight fade, one killer chases another through the tangled madness of the city.
A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
The stage is set.
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But that would make Cabd the maf doc?
And like... you scum?
And if Cabd is odd night maf doc I could see that maybe being balanced.As the last rays of sunlight fade, one killer chases another through the tangled madness of the city.
A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
The stage is set.
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TheWayItEnds Jack of All Trades
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I think if Cabd is maf doc and theres also a RB and they have opposite day restrictions then this could still maybe be 3 scum?
I dunno.
Someone who designs games talk to me.As the last rays of sunlight fade, one killer chases another through the tangled madness of the city.
A flash of steel announces the presence of his quarry.
The stage is set.
The night explodes.-
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this set-up spec is either really really well done or townish"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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I don't get it - we're missing something here."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Depraved Justice was blocked n1 even though they were killing him. That means either he was roleblocked or his kill was stopped."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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And that was why we lynched reinoe, of course.
But what if we were wrong? What if the hydra had mentioned a Mafioso in their vigpool and scum wouldn't take the risk?"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In post 1391, Depraved Justice wrote:In post 1390, Titus wrote:We are vigging between Mirhawk Cephir and Reinoe.
We aren't vigging Aegor. Period. We probably aren't vigging Reinoe.
MOTHER OF FUCKING GOD"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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UNVOTE
VOTE: CEPHRIR"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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I mislynched reinoe on that and NO-ONE POINTED IT OUT
NO-ONE POINTED OUT THAT HE WASN'T THE TARGET"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Vote this, now."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In post 2297, Izariael wrote:In post 2296, Mirhawk wrote:
Sorry but no.
I believe in cause and effect.
He can't have a townread without having a reason for it.
But scrambles can have a scumread on me without having a reason for it, because it agrees with your opinion, right?
In post 1533, scrambles wrote:I feel very strongly town about TWIE TSO and IZA
I feel strongly scum on MVP, AP, REN, MIRHAWKIn post 2282, scrambles wrote:Can someone finish off toomai before Mirhawk gets bussed in.
I agree with Mir. At least ivy and toomai are scum.In post 2283, scrambles wrote:Trust meizy if you come after me, I will make it my job to Lynch youfirst.
My townread on Cephrir is nothing new. You can go back on my ISO and see that I've agreed with many of his posts and felt they rang town.
My townread on T S O is also nothing new. Little has changed on it, even after reinoe's flip.
My townread on AP isn't really new, but is a bit more behind the scenes. From day 1, I've had a strong town lean on him based on his interactions with others. I did question it somewhat on Day 2 after going back and looking at the Day 1 voting, but I didn't find anything I found scummy enough to outweigh the town lean.
I didn't feel like reiterating reasons I've already stated, so I tried to keep it short for the sake of brevity. Look where it got us though. This was certainly not less cumbersome than if I had just copy/pasted my townreads from earlier. My reads have shifted somewhat, but not enough to warrant detailing the shift. If a read changes by a substantial amount, then I'd be sure to detail what has caused that shift.
In post 2298, Mirhawk wrote:If you have a problem with scrambles scumread on you why don't you take it up with him? I'm not sure why you think I should be questioning scumreads that you don't like.
If you feel Cephrir is town for making lots of protown posts I'm going to have to disagree. He's made enough crappy noncommittal posts to easily balance out any towncred he's managed to accumulate.
I don't really care about you're reads on TSO and AP, you read on Cephrir is the only one that interests me.
In post 2299, Izariael wrote:In post 2298, Mirhawk wrote:If you have a problem with scrambles scumread on you why don't you take it up with him? I'm not sure why you think I should be questioning scumreads that you don't like.
I was making a point. You were disgruntled that I posted townreads with no reasons attached, and yet never batted an eye when scrambles scumread me without a reason. It's a double-standard.
So, I was and am townreading Izzy, but I was re-reading and found this.
Izzy never answers the question about the Cephrir townread. Not in later posts either."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Izzy-Cephrir scumbuddies?"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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Was Mirhawk Gunsmith-cleared?
If he was, he could still theoretically be scum in a Doctor-Roleblocker scumteam, but if he's scum in any other scenario, Cephrir's still scum, I think."i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"-Marquis-
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In post 2578, TheWayItEnds wrote:Not really.... Except that now I'm liking the bodyguard claim more than I would have liked a doc claim.
Which puts me back on AP.
What I really wanna talk about is that there has to be a roleblocker in this game right?
Like you cant put 2 investigatives in a game and no roleblocker?
But then the N2 kill makes no sense?
How likely is like a restricted RB?
I give hypothetical scum Cabd enough credit to realize that a doc claim was functionally suicide.
2 investigatives in a pretty small game, probably deserves a roleblocker. However, it's also possible the balance is thrown out of whack by the possible gunsmith cc scenario. I don't know how I would balance that. If the RB was restricted, it would be sort of awkward that it would be unable to block either Cabd or MVP ever; I could see an argument for nonconsecutive, though that tends to just be odd night.
I could see a full roleblocker on a powerful 3 scum team (which would obviously contain a doctor), but then the MVP kill becomes some pretty strange WIFOM and I don't know why they would do it when MVP claiming roleblocked probably gets him lynched day 3.
In post 2579, TheWayItEnds wrote:Cause their cant be a full doc in this game.
Like literally cant.
With 2 investigatives.
And potentially resticted RB.
I could see a maf doc as the scumteams big power role.
Because it doubles as the GF against double gunsmith?
No, of course there couldn't. There would be, like, no possible scumteam in that situation that would make anything balanced, and it would be ridiculously swingy.
I think this setup is obviously designed for, and possibly around, a mafia doctor."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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I can only surmise that either the scum did something wacky night 1 (like roleblock DJ and shoot them to create precisely this situation, knowing all the targets were town), or they decided to be antitown and take a shot in the dark that they didn't mention, which is certainly possible from a hydra of those two players."I would prefer not to." --Herman Melville,Bartleby the Scrivener-
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