PV, can you make up your mind about what you're trying to say? You're convinced about one setup until you get questioned about it, in which case you say it could be another setup.
You consistently talk about a 4-person team + SK until
4518 where you say it could be 4 or 5, because I already called you out on your numbers not adding up (2 scum dead + 2 "masons" + 1 other scum =/= 4), and then go back to working under the assumption of 4 scum for every post thereafter.
Your referral to
3575 made absolutely no sense as a rebuttal to what you quoted, but I'll address it here:
We're now on D5. If Marquis fake-claimed masons with Psyche, by this time there is no reason for Psyche to have not called him out on it if only one of them are scum:
Marquis scum, Psyche town
- If Psyche is town, enough time should have passed for Psyche to evaluate whether or not he thinks Marquis is scum or town. With the limited amount of time left in the game (3 game days if I'm doing my math right and neither scum or SK is caught by then), if Psyche even has an ounce of doubt about Marquis being town he should cc. It just makes no sense for Psyche to have said absolutely nothing by this point if he's town and they're not actually masons.
Marquis town, Psyche scum
- Since Marquis is the one that claimed masons with Psyche and not the other way around, a cc that ended up with a Marquis town lynch as not masons would end up in an immediate Psyche lynch. Similarly to the reverse, if Marquis had thought Psyche was scum and used it as a gambit, he should have claimed it as such by now when Psyche didn't cc it. There is no reason for a townie to go along with such a gambit.
That leaves the two choices of them telling the truth, or them both being scum. Granted, they did not know there was an SK out there at the time the mason claim was made, but after that was found out Psyche could have tried to back out of it, considering he never actually confirmed it. If the SK were to kill one of them and they came up scum, or if one of them was lynched as scum, the next logical step is to lynch the other one. Additionally, while I could see Majiffy bussing one or the other of them, I just can't see him outright calling them both obvscum as scum himself. While that may be just the sort of WIFOM he was going for if he were to get killed first, I just don't feel it.
In post 4545, PeregrineV wrote:If you beleive the mason claim and cop innocents, then you believe
In 1 neighborhoods of 4 people that are all town
Then your looking for 2-3 scum and an SK in
notscience
House
Skybird
Shadow
If you think scum has 4 players, then one of the above is town, the rest are scum of some sort.
If you think Shadow is town, then The Aeronaut hood has 2 scum in it, and there were 2 hoods (masonrys in fact) with no scum.
This is all from your PoV.
You
outright
leave yourself out of this entire scenario, even though you're saying it's from Pine's POV, who in the quote you posted says you're on his list....
In post 4556, PeregrineV wrote:it's simple. You have to think there is an SK and 2 or 3 scum left.
You believe masons or you do not.
You believe cop-clears or you do not.
That leaves an ever smaller pool of possible scum.
Again, your math doesn't add up. You can't give somebody the option that will or won't limit the number of scum in their pool, and then say it limits the number of scum in their pool. Your attempts at logic are nice, but not successful.
You're definitely my top scum read right now, and I could see ns being the last scum, again assuming 4. If anybody were to agree with me on the possibility of a godfather, I still say gameplay. House and Pine would be the other two, one as SK and the other as a possible 5th scum if there are 5. Pine because I wasn't fond of the Muffin slot, and House because of the blind sheeping. I appreciate that he thinks I'm the towniest, but him just following my votes is giving me a bit of a bad vibe.