Mafia 66: Freelancer - Game over!
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Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
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err, if you'd read my whole post, and not just the last sentence, you would see me explain why i didnt like that comment.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Why do you dislike his comment, BM? Just saying that you don't like it doesn't actually give us any information, which you seem so keen on us being able to gather.
as good old MoS would say:
GG Reading Retension.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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ryan Mafia Scum
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Ok, so answer me this. What's the difference between not lynching or lynching a current townie? It's already been said that nobody knows who anyone is so what exactly is the difference? 20 people playing and the chances of finding scum on a first lynch is pretty that's the point I was making.johhan wrote:
QFT... You've been around long enough at least to realize voting nolynch is precisely what we can't do in this game.ButteBlues wrote:
You can't possibly be serious...ryan wrote:What up about a no lynch than? Wouldn't that give us about as much information as a random one?[i]Please remove your head from your ass before you vote.[/i]-
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Umm.. I'll take the small chance of hitting a Serial Killer rather than going to night and waking up toryan wrote:
Ok, so answer me this. What's the difference between not lynching or lynching a current townie? It's already been said that nobody knows who anyone is so what exactly is the difference? 20 people playing and the chances of finding scum on a first lynch is pretty that's the point I was making.johhan wrote:
QFT... You've been around long enough at least to realize voting nolynch is precisely what we can't do in this game.ButteBlues wrote:
You can't possibly be serious...ryan wrote:What up about a no lynch than? Wouldn't that give us about as much information as a random one?as many as three townie deaths. Moreover, SKs can't kill each other, so the only way to eliminate them is via lynch. We must use the tool at our disposal.
Furthermore, the lynch-a-lurker plan only really applies for day one. If we go into tomorrow with fewer than three dead bodies at night, it's likely one of the SKs targeted another, in which case that's when things will get interesting.-
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ryan Mafia Scum
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Well if one SK kills another won't that be let known to the rest of the town? I mean we'll know that after they die and their role is revealed. I agree losing three in one night is a bad thing but that could happen even if we agree on a lynch, we could hit a townie with a lynch and lose three anyway. It's a tough numbers game but with 20 players we should have some better content to go by[i]Please remove your head from your ass before you vote.[/i]-
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SK's are immune from NK'sryan wrote:Well if one SK kills another won't that be let known to the rest of the town? I mean we'll know that after they die and their role is revealed. I agree losing three in one night is a bad thing but that could happen even if we agree on a lynch, we could hit a townie with a lynch and lose three anyway. It's a tough numbers game but with 20 players we should have some better content to go byOne Hamster to rule them all!
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rofl. see my response to MoS. Im not repeating myself over and over for people who cba to read for themselves....Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
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Oh no, I definitely read all that, or I wouldn't have seen your vote in the first place. That doesn't explain why you didn't like Qman's commentBattle Mage wrote:
err, if you'd read my whole post, and not just the last sentence, you would see me explain why i didnt like that comment.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Why do you dislike his comment, BM? Just saying that you don't like it doesn't actually give us any information, which you seem so keen on us being able to gather.
as good old MoS would say:
GG Reading Retension.in particularthere are at least 3 or 4 people lurking-lynching Blahgo right now, if not more, so you disagreeing with the lurking lynch is not an explanation to pick Qman out of all the candidates to vote. Please explain why he is the vote and not myself, SpinWizard, or Kscope?Permanent V/LA.-
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I'm in favor of lynching lurkers, but only if there is no other behavior to go off of. I agree that we should play this game like normal and lynch based on scummy behavior, but I have no qualms of lynching a lurker if we have no other information.
Also, I can't remember who I was voting for (and I'm pretty sure it was random), soUnvote.-
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Battle Mage Jester
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what are you talking about?
my whole post was for the SOLE PURPOSE of explaining that!
youobviouslydidnt read it, so i reccommend you do now. If you still cant manage, ill explain it to you in full, but if possible ill save you the embarrassment.
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Oh no, I definitely read all that, or I wouldn't have seen your vote in the first place. That doesn't explain why you didn't like Qman's commentBattle Mage wrote:
err, if you'd read my whole post, and not just the last sentence, you would see me explain why i didnt like that comment.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Why do you dislike his comment, BM? Just saying that you don't like it doesn't actually give us any information, which you seem so keen on us being able to gather.
as good old MoS would say:
GG Reading Retension.in particularthere are at least 3 or 4 people lurking-lynching Blahgo right now, if not more, so you disagreeing with the lurking lynch is not an explanation to pick Qman out of all the candidates to vote. Please explain why he is the vote and not myself, SpinWizard, or Kscope?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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NO I read teh post, i want to know why it bothers you instead of a smart ass go read it answer. I've read it, twice now, and i still don't get what exactly i said that is tweaking your nose so hard.One Hamster to rule them all!
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Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
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Let me break it down for you:
Not directed at Qman in particular.Battle Mage wrote:err wtf?
Question about game theory, not directed at anyone specific.how the hell does lynching lurkers gain us info.
Using an in-game example to go along with the game theory discussion. Also not directed at anyone special.Case in point, the bandwagon just starting on Blahgo.
More game theory, not directed at anyone.I agree that lynching lurkers is probably good for today at least, but merely because they arent contributing, and arent a big loss.
Game theory, not direction at a person.But as you can see here, if the town agrees to lynch lurkers, we dont gain ANY info on anybody.
Statement about the setup and game theory, not directed at anyone in particular.There is no Mafia here, so reading bandwagons can only tell us so much.
Game theory, no particular person addressed.The fact is, if a lurker comes up town, what do we learn? Nothing.
Game theory and setup discussion, not replying to a specific person.If a lurker comes up scum, what do we learn? Nothing really, as we only have SK's.
More game theory based on the setup. Not directed at anyone.The best way to gain INFORMATION would be to play as normal, and lynch whoever you think is behaving scummy.
Prediction of results of applying game theory, not directed at a person.That way, you dont just get a meaningless bandwagon, but actually some discussion.
This is your first comment that regards Qman in particular. Every comment in your post up to that point applied to anyone that had voted a lurker or even expressed support of a lurker lynch. You have no told us why you chose Qman over anyone else.in fact, whilst i have no qualm about killing a lurker today, i really dislike that comment by Qman, soUnvote, Vote: Qman
And yes, I did read it...obviouslyPermanent V/LA.-
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ah i see you have at last read it. Now you just need to UNDERSTAND it.
To put it in simple terms for you, the WHOLE POST was directed at QMan. Id have thought that much would have been obvious from the vote, but i guess not. or maybe you were trying to bury the meaning of my post under a heap of confusion. i just dont know with you.
@QMan- the comment bothers me because it looks like you were trying to validate a vote with game theory, however this game theory was incorrect. it put you as a preferable vote to a lurker at this point.
Mastermind of Sin wrote:Let me break it down for you:
Not directed at Qman in particular.Battle Mage wrote:err wtf?
Question about game theory, not directed at anyone specific.how the hell does lynching lurkers gain us info.
Using an in-game example to go along with the game theory discussion. Also not directed at anyone special.Case in point, the bandwagon just starting on Blahgo.
More game theory, not directed at anyone.I agree that lynching lurkers is probably good for today at least, but merely because they arent contributing, and arent a big loss.
Game theory, not direction at a person.But as you can see here, if the town agrees to lynch lurkers, we dont gain ANY info on anybody.
Statement about the setup and game theory, not directed at anyone in particular.There is no Mafia here, so reading bandwagons can only tell us so much.
Game theory, no particular person addressed.The fact is, if a lurker comes up town, what do we learn? Nothing.
Game theory and setup discussion, not replying to a specific person.If a lurker comes up scum, what do we learn? Nothing really, as we only have SK's.
More game theory based on the setup. Not directed at anyone.The best way to gain INFORMATION would be to play as normal, and lynch whoever you think is behaving scummy.
Prediction of results of applying game theory, not directed at a person.That way, you dont just get a meaningless bandwagon, but actually some discussion.
This is your first comment that regards Qman in particular. Every comment in your post up to that point applied to anyone that had voted a lurker or even expressed support of a lurker lynch. You have no told us why you chose Qman over anyone else.in fact, whilst i have no qualm about killing a lurker today, i really dislike that comment by Qman, soUnvote, Vote: Qman
And yes, I did read it...obviouslyShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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ryan Mafia Scum
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140 posts in this thread my friend, what exactly would you like to "play out more?" We have 20 people in this game and about a handful are actually active, this might be about as good as we get until we start putting some pressure on our lurkers to get some content post instead of "I'm still waiting"blahgo wrote:I'm Here and Game for Lynchig Luckers other than myself. But before I vote I want to see Day 1 play out a little more.[i]Please remove your head from your ass before you vote.[/i]-
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At this point day one is lynching someone who is lurking or feels scummy. Which with the SKs not knowing each other would be pretty hard to catch someone acting scum. We really cannot make informed votes till day two. After a night phase and hopefully an SK will have attempted to kill an SK. After that he will attempt to get us to lynch the SK and we'll have to watch for that.
Vote:Blahgo-
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ryan Mafia Scum
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unvote/vote blahgo
The post letting us know that "I'm here" always makes me feel like you've been watching and waiting for your name to be brought up and than out of the clear blue sky you appear, BM still feels scummish to me but I'm happy with a vote on your head.[i]Please remove your head from your ass before you vote.[/i]-
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this is EXACTLY the sort of thing i expected. on your head be it...Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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ryan Mafia Scum
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once again, ill suggest you read my prior post, which was something along the lines of:ryan wrote:
What did you expect BM? On who's head be what? If you are going to post, at least post something readable.Battle Mage wrote:this is EXACTLY the sort of thing i expected. on your head be it...
"by lynching lurkers, we gain NO information. The only way to identify scum in this game, is to look for the opportunists."
Now we have about 9 people who have just piled on that wagon. Even IF Blahgo is an SK, what have we learnt? jack-all. we then have 9 suspects, the vast majority of which are certain to be town. with townies acting like characteristic scum, its going to make it a hella lot harder to identify the actual scum.
and what do you mean by "if you are going to post"?
are you suggesting that ive been lurking?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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