Open 575: Friends & Enemies-Together At Last (OVER)
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In post 1426, Wisdom wrote:That didn't answer my question though
To answer it, it is possible and is something I'm considering.-
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wgeurts They/ThemPokédexThey/Them
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In post 1428, Wisdom wrote:My question was, why did Mala saying that either you or me is scum mean that this is actually the case?
It's also her RVS vote and your arguments.-
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Mathdino Survivor
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Wisdom, I'd like you to provide all games you've played with Mala in the past year. All the ones you gave were from last year.-
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Mathdino Survivor
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k, so I skimmed through a bunch of Wisdom games and games he played with Mala, and I think what I've learned isI know what town-Wisdom looks like and this isn't thatabsolutely nothing. Thought I'd get a read by showing that Wisdom tunneling Mala is usually more stubborn and less case-y but that's not even true.
Need to look through Mala's play again, see how much validity her wagon holds. Townread on her was entirely from twilight and D2.-
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In post 1432, Mathdino wrote:k, so I skimmed through a bunch of Wisdom games and games he played with Mala, and I think what I've learned isI know what town-Wisdom looks like and this isn't thatabsolutely nothing. Thought I'd get a read by showing that Wisdom tunneling Mala is usually more stubborn and less case-y but that's not even true.
Need to look through Mala's play again, see how much validity her wagon holds. Townread on her was entirely from twilight and D2.
Thoughts on my case.-
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Mathdino Survivor
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In post 1413, wgeurts wrote:Not Mafia and wisdom are coming.
Waiting on this; the way you see the entire gamestate affects the validity of your case.
Also I don't want to confbias myself by analysing it yet because I have a tendency of arguing with cases and convincing myself people are town because of it. So I'll take a look after I do my own Mala/Wisdom ISO reread.-
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Mathdino Survivor
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I literally saw I think 8 people make that argument in all the meta I read xD-
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I literally play most of my games as hydra's. I have a lot solo /:
Or evil regals I brought her back from the deadNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
Get to know a Mala~Grey<3 4.7.2015-
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borkjerfkin He/HimXenophileHe/Him
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In post 1433, wgeurts wrote:Thoughts on my case
Your case is on town
So like I said, reevaluate
Or we can waste more time with tvt shitbeefycheese-
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In post 1420, wgeurts wrote:He's a Troll.
Here's the thing about him being troll. There are certainly aspects of him that are extremely trolly (the RPing, calling everyone on this site bad, etc.), but he is not wholly a troll.
See the following quotes for examples of real/non-troll game-play that shows real interest in the game.
In post 577, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:@Children, Please read back through Mathdino's ISO, or posts in general. Things I want people to study are his...
1. RVS Interactions
2. Push on SilverWolf
3. Intent behind his blocks of textIn post 657, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:
Actually my case on you and Victor is based off of intent, not association. My read on silver was association, that I'll concede.
If I'm scum reading you and victor, and you're actually contributing on a regular basis, by policy I would prefer to lynch victor.
In post 595, St Constantine the Hermit wrote:
Wguert's: Really is newb town, and is displaying the traits of what you could expect from a a game which promotes hysteria
Wisdom: Is town, because nothing he's done makes sense for someone playing as scum. He reacts like a townie, he picks fights like a townie. He really is a townie.
These are just a few examples of straight-up play, so I think writing his scummy actions off as him being a troll puts town in the same danger as accepting scummy actions are purely newb-town.Get to know me! | Unavailable on nights and weekends.-
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Mathdino Survivor
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In post 950, Mathdino wrote:Finally. So I did this right before the mod locked the thread, coloured it afterwards. Will analyse based on NK flip in a sec.
Spoiler: VC IIoA
Day's long enough that I don't want to have to do this again in full by twilight. This time this'll actually have a point, though.
Spoiler: VCI&A
Okay, so here's the thing. We've established that the TTH NK is very WIFOMy. Could be to stop a Wisdom wagon, could be to implicate him, and TTH was probably the best NK for either of these purposes as she was one of few whose read on him was unmanipulatable. But here's the thing. His wagon is tiny. It starts withMalakittens, followed byNewbie, followed byNot_Mafia, followed byborkjerfkin.
But that's it.
I won't go so far as to say that Wisdom vs Malakittens is TvS, but I will say that there's no question that either Wisdom is scum, or scum is on his wagon and/or is trying to get towncred from calling him town.Riddletonhasn't spoken on Wisdom.Constantineblind defended him.wgeurtsis flip flopping but naturally.acryoncalled him town but is barely defending him at all.Constantineis the only one that's really implicated here but [hope]we're lynching him anyway[/hope].
Of course, Wisdom as scum could probably push a TTH lynch fairly well, so that seems weird.
Edit: Goddammit. Got distracted for a few hours, came back, and realised how silly this all is. Not deleting because it has the VC stuff and this analysis is the whole reason I did the VC.
The main point that's not total WIFOM is Newbie, Constantine, and to a lesser extent borkjerfkin are acting really weird about Wisdom.
Also I approve of the above post.-
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borkjerfkin He/HimXenophileHe/Him
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In post 1423, Mathdino wrote:If Wisdom and Mala are partners, that was a damn good performance.
They're not gonna win though.
@borkjerfkin: Do you think that interaction that happened makes Newbie town, or d'ya think she could've faked it?
Leaning not faked as I said after my exchange with newbiebeefycheese-
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Mathdino Survivor
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Well, bork, considering you're telling me to "just keep doing my thing", I'm pretty sure you don't want a conversation at all.
Please discuss your vote on Wisdom.
Also for the record since I'm not going to stop until Constantine is lynched, just consider my HoS's unofficial votes.
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Mathdino Survivor
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Actually no that HoS was dumb consider acryon's prolly right about Const.
unHoS: Riddletonuntil you explain.
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In post 1446, Mathdino wrote:Well, bork, considering you're telling me to "just keep doing my thing", I'm pretty sure you don't want a conversation at all
Oh for fucks sake.
Read the fucking interactions between the people wisdom has been pushing today.beefycheese-
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borkjerfkin He/HimXenophileHe/Him
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In post 1447, Mathdino wrote:Actually no that HoS was dumb consider acryon's prolly right about Const.
unHoS: Riddletonuntil you explain.
HoS: borkjerfkin
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