NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)
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In post 5023, Marquis wrote:In post 5019, House wrote:I don't particularly read sky as scum, I can't see Wake putting someone he feels necessary to protect so bad as to overstep his authority as mod to ask town to go easy on her into a scum slot.
THIS WAS MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT
I don't think I ever argued with it. o_o-
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shaddowez He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
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If I'm doing my numbers right, we're in a weird state of MYLO right now. If we mislynch today, depending on events I'm almost positive we lose either toDay or the next Day.
In post 5026, House wrote:In post 5023, Marquis wrote:In post 5019, House wrote:I don't particularly read sky as scum, I can't see Wake putting someone he feels necessary to protect so bad as to overstep his authority as mod to ask town to go easy on her into a scum slot.
THIS WAS MY ORIGINAL THOUGHT
I don't think I ever argued with it. o_o
This is the problem with what Wake did in general. It produces a whole lot of WIFOM and meta into the game that shouldn't exist. I don't particularly read Sky as scummy, but it has nothing to do with what Wake posted. The only thing that pings me about her is her opening post toDay:
In post 5007, Skybird wrote:Since there wasn't a mafia kill it seems that all we have left to do is hunt the SK.
Wake, I'll be V/LA Thursday through Saturday.
Trying to throw suspicion off of the last possible scum slot could be a newbscum mistake, and if they happen to catch the SK toDay, they get a kill tonight, and are in LYLO the next Day with lessened suspicion. This could also be genuine - I'm not sure right now.
I still question Marquis' choice of fake-claiming mason and trying to ride it out until endgame, but his posts toDay have seemed town.
My feelings are still mostly similar to what I posted in 4857. I just have to figure out who between Skybird and Pine I feel is scummier and more likely to not be a mislynch.V/LA on Weekends-
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Pine In Your Head
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In post 5022, House wrote:In post 5018, Pine wrote:
Remaining mafiascum ismost likelyShadow
SK, if we miss them today, should shoot Shadow
We should not be voting Shadow, we should be ISOing all living players for evidence of SK, which I haven't had time to do
Tell me how it makes sense not voting for scum.
I want some of what you are smoking.
Reason 1
SK is most likely bulletproof
Ergo, if we mislynch, SK can't be NKed, but mafia might be
Reason 2
Mafia is easier to deduce based on interactions
Mafia may be (but probably isn't) eliminated
Ergo, if Mafia is eliminated, all the associative tells are bunk, and that read is wrong anyway"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 5028, Pine wrote:In post 5022, House wrote:In post 5018, Pine wrote:
Remaining mafiascum ismost likelyShadow
SK, if we miss them today, should shoot Shadow
We should not be voting Shadow, we should be ISOing all living players for evidence of SK, which I haven't had time to do
Tell me how it makes sense not voting for scum.
I want some of what you are smoking.
Reason 1
SK is most likely bulletproof
Ergo, if we mislynch, SK can't be NKed, but mafia might be
Reason 2
Mafia is easier to deduce based on interactions
Mafia may be (but probably isn't) eliminated
Ergo, if Mafia is eliminated, all the associative tells are bunk, and that read is wrong anyway
No.
If we leave known scum alive and guess wrong, that will bring us down to four alive.
If SK and mafia both NK town, we're boned.
Kill scum when you have scum.-
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VOTE: shaddowez
I didn't want to rush a lynch right out the gate because I wanted to see what people thought first.
Happy with my read, now.-
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Pine In Your Head
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Nnnnno.
First, I'm having second thoughts about Shadow as mafiascum
Second, we need to out in some serious brain time on the identity of the SK
I think we really need to take a long look at who scum have been building cases against. They've been SK hunting all game"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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In post 5031, Pine wrote:Nnnnno.
First, I'm having second thoughts about Shadow as mafiascum
Second, we need to out in some serious brain time on the identity of the SK
I think we really need to take a long look at who scum have been building cases against. They've been SK hunting all game
Your logic is fine, you just picked the wrong faction.
Shaddowez = SK.-
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Pine In Your Head
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SK is, at this stage of the game, just as large a threat to Town as Mafia, with less collective brain time in, no associative tells, no PoE, and probably no chance of being NKed if we fuck up
Today, we hunt the SK
PE: Based on...?"Cry havoc, and let slip the wombat of war!"
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Marquis Survivor
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I've been town reading shadow for his scum hunting, but others have him fingered as scum due to PoE
SK explains the contradiction, as SK has to scum hunt to stay alive.-
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In post 5034, Marquis wrote:actually wake defending sk!skybird makes sense too.
No. Just... No.
If sky is SK, I'll disband my hydra with Wake and never play in another game he is any part of.-
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Well I'm leaving my vote on shadow as I don't have reliable net access.-
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I understand everyone's hesitation about me but I am neither SK or scum. I crumbed my role shortly after replacing in. If you have questions or want me to explain things I've posted, ask.
I've been reading ISO's of people that were SK killed, looking to see if there is a common name that everyone suspected. I've only gotten through TSO and Texcat. One post from TSO stood out, post 2436. He stated that Marquis is a deceptive scum player and his strong suit is being very natural. Texcat also had the scum team as being Aero, Farside, and Tree/Marquis in post 2229 and then voted for Tree/Marquis in post 2370.-
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Wouldn't it be better to do tomorrow?
NK's can still hurt us.-
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Shaitra? Who is that?-
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Oh, skybird...welcome to MS, Shaitra!
Regardless of how your post was intended, you can see how it looks if she winds up scum after a mod request for kid gloves, yes?-
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I'd rather not, but I crumbed a while back if people want to ISO me.-
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